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VOTE: AaronFrost

His posts read very forced. His progression on creature also sucks.

I'm always slow to vote beyond rvs, just a really slow starter in general

Tbh I don't have any major scumleans at the moment, creature is the only one whose really pinged me at all but not enough to vote yet

In post 276, DogWatch wrote:I'm always slow to vote beyond rvs, just a really slow starter in general

Tbh I don't have any major scumleans at the moment, creature is the only one whose really pinged me at all but not enough to vote yet

What is “enough to vote” by your criteria?

at the very least I want to hear his reasoning for his 3 scum leanings, like i said earlier I just couldnt see the progression.

In post 275, Amrun wrote:VOTE: AaronFrost

His posts read very forced. His progression on creature also sucks.

Can you elaborate?

Is non transparent reads scummy?

In post 279, DogWatch wrote:

In post 275, Amrun wrote:VOTE: AaronFrost

His posts read very forced. His progression on creature also sucks.

Can you elaborate?

Elaborate re: creature?

He calls out creature for something and then commits the exact same offense very quickly by voting Iconeum, who is, IMO, lower hanging fruit than Creature.

In post 280, Amrun wrote:Is non transparent reads scummy?

not necessarily but post 176 seems inconsistent with his scumreading of AF earlier. Maybe it's nothing, but I want to hear from him.

In post 281, Amrun wrote:He calls out creature for something and then commits the exact same offense very quickly by voting Iconeum, who is, IMO, lower hanging fruit than Creature.

Do you agree that AF had any sort of point against Creature though? Since you word it as an offense? I do see what you're saying about AF tbf

In post 283, DogWatch wrote:

In post 281, Amrun wrote:He calls out creature for something and then commits the exact same offense very quickly by voting Iconeum, who is, IMO, lower hanging fruit than Creature.

Do you agree that AF had any sort of point against Creature though? Since you word it as an offense? I do see what you're saying about AF tbf

I do, I just think scum would be more worried about how they appear and that Creature will sort himself as the game goes on. In other words, Creature seems like he doesn’t gaf and was posting whatever popped into his mind and probably forgot about AF in that moment.

AF, on the other hand, seems to me like he cares how he comes off - a lot.

In other words, I can very easily see AF’s posting as scum motivated; attempt to capitalize on obvious town mistakes, but place vote on most likely mislynch. Obviously that’s untrue if Ico ends up flipping scum. I’m null on him currently.

I don’t see AF as scummy here really.

And I just played a scum game with him where Day 1 I actively had to do damage control so he wouldn’t come across as scummy.

Actually, this might be more of a case FOR ScumAF then if you guys think he is scummy...

I didn’t have to read him in that game since I was town.

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Basically, so I don’t get called out for saying one thing, but backtracking it in, because I’m speaking my actual thought process here...

I personally haven’t found him scummy or see him as forced, but I did just play a scum game with him where people said something similar, and then I bailed him out of it, as his scum partner.

I don’t really know what I’m saying, I just felt the need to say my history since he’s picking up steam

Amawesome is what pinged me in the past few pages, but I have really no explanation as to why, and my gut also feels that my gut is wrong to scumread Amawesome.

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Basically, what I’m trying to say, so people don’t think I backtracked in the same post, is show my genuine thought process.

I think I’m saying...I lean town on Am?

I don’t know.

Wow, Pretentious. Are there any stances you DO want to take?

Pret actually seems to be making more of an effort to be lucid than normal (I haven’t had to ask him to explain anything to me yet — apart from lack of knowledge, I’m still waiting on the cologne thing) and idk how I feel about that

In post 84, Menalque wrote:

In post 66, Pretentious wrote:Hey, Menalque, are you the type who wears cologne?

Don’t worry, guys, I’m not pulling my cologne gambit, I’m generally just curious and we talked about him smelling.

You have a cologne gambit?

Also, depends

Also hi

Yes. It’s been seen a few times, most noticeably in the Mini Normal Musicals.

In post 288, Amrun wrote:Wow, Pretentious. Are there any stances you DO want to take?

I don’t take stances, I just say my thoughts, and explain what I think is going on on a gamestate level.

Can you say what the cologne gambit is?

In post 222, Menalque wrote:Hmm, okay

The reason is that icon is generally v mislynch baity and so pushing him early tends to ping me if it’s from someone who knows him who should know that him being scummy doesn’t necessarily mean he’s scum

Well I will say I do tend to go after newer/weaker players as scum, but I am not aware of Iconium so consider my vote on him to be healthy rather than intended to take down a mislynch bait player.

In post 223, Iconeum wrote:salamance, ignorant = scum

y/n?

Maybe.

Looking at your 149 again. I think it looks like took my 35 seriously, I don't understand how Menal "Townslipped."

Also I'm not sure what you are going on about in reference to Pretentious 41.

In post 225, Menalque wrote:

In post 224, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 222, Menalque wrote:him being scummy doesn’t necessarily mean he’s scum

I mean this is true of everyone lol.

Yes but I think it’s more true for some players than others, specifically for mislynch baity players

You need to be careful though. Believing that will one day bite you in the ass and let those kind of players carry to endgame because they are too scummy to be scum.

In post 230, AaronFrost wrote:

In post 166, Creature wrote:VOTE: AaronFrost

In post 168, Creature wrote:Can we wagon someone?

In post 172, Creature wrote:VOTE: Samelance

In post 176, Creature wrote:Salimance and alidya are both scum

Now need a third

In post 189, Creature wrote:

In post 187, DogWatch wrote:

In post 166, Creature wrote:VOTE: AaronFrost

Creature, what was this? Did you have a legit scumread on AF (which I don't see how) or were you just trying to get a wagon going?

I had a somewhat legit scumread on AF and probably still have

This entire sequence of posts is gross and inconsistent.

If you're scumreading me right now then why didn't you mention me in 176? What's your reason for scumreading me?

Who is creature? Thats the big question here, but I see where this guy is coming from.

I think this is how creature plays, pretty confidently, but idk. He probably wants the game to keep moving.

In post 233, AaronFrost wrote:VOTE: Iconeum

Even if Icon is considered 'mislynchable' I'm still going to push actions I find scummy and right now I'm not a fan of it giving Mena towncred for something he shouldn't get towncred for.

Why Icon over creature? From a quick search of your iso, I think you have a better reason to vote creature for being "Bouncy"

In post 234, Menalque wrote:

In post 226, Iconeum wrote:why do you call me mislynch bait every single game

Bc you are mislynch baity like nearly every game babe

How many games have you played together?

Datisi wrote:What do you mean by uninformed? In what way? And I know this was said wrt alimdia, but I then assume your original vote wasn't serious?

It wasn't serious, I'm not taking your comment nor Menalque's "Slip" seriously. Theres 3 mafia, I'm not believing anyone in this game actually believe there were only 2 mafia.

Datisi wrote:Is the Icon vote real? The explanation seemed a bit jokey.

I think its a good place to put my vote for now. His 149 bugs me and he hasn't done anything to make me think hes town yet.

Datisi wrote:Btw it's not a gambler's fallacy.

If Icon is usually (60%) scum, then he is scum in this game is gamblers fallacy. Just like how I am always town in FG games and I am usually a lady/queen here.

In post 248, Menalque wrote:I feel like you’re being kind of weirdly adversarial this game SS

I was just going to say this after reading 246.

Hey DDL, why are you voting me?

In post 255, DrDolittle wrote:i dont really get scum vibes from ico this game.
i could do aafrost

i might just roll through day 1 sheeping creature

Who is creature (Again)

In post 273, Pretentious wrote:I dangle myself out in front of scum like a piece of delicious cake.

I literally bait myself in being mislynched to scum.

I am mislynch bait.

You are not going to endgame if you make posts like this boon.

Pret you're not MLB

I’m VIP

MLB wishes they was VIP like the FLE.

Idk what MLB is if you aren’t talking about baseball, and I barely know that

In post 292, Pretentious wrote:

In post 288, Amrun wrote:Wow, Pretentious. Are there any stances you DO want to take?

I don’t take stances, I just say my thoughts, and explain what I think is going on on a gamestate level.

That would be fine if your posts actually were saying something.



@salamence: what does “not entirely scum” mean?

Like is he 3/4 scum?