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Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:10 pm
by wrong fish
I was hoping my partner would be on at some point and we could talk to see if he read at all. Im still behind, and I guess if he isnt posting then he is as well. I am glad to see that this game is being driving my a bunch of hyper posters.

I Can't promise that I will get to this tonight as its already 4am, but I swear that if you guys dont see me in a day or two with a major readtrhough of this whole shebang then i give you permission to cut me head off.

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:22 am
by alimdia
Looked through the playerlist thoughts other than TD:

Aernonaut
: 4 posts, voted Theif Stone, other than that only has RVS votes/unvotes.

Blatant
Scum: Voted thief stone, a lot of fluff and jokes in his posts. I feel like there is some meat in post #254. Could you expand on why
you have a TR on Tiphaine? Activity is already low enough atm as is.

Dongfish
: I see your last post, look forward to your posts!

Eve
: Why wake and me specifically for your cheeky neighbourhood story? I know you said it sounded fun - but why us 2 specifically?
Not too much non-fluff content either.. mostly seemed to be directed at me.

Gobbledygook
:
In post 98, gobbledygook wrote:VOTE: Pine

Eve town
Why?
In post 168, gobbledygook wrote:Pops is town.

Blatant Scum is still scum.
Zenith is also scum.
Why?
In post 214, gobbledygook wrote:I think that the asking permission to vote someone and then the subsequent post filled with questions is scummy.
I agree!

GuyInFreezer
,
Wake
: Post moar plx

Pine
: Voted thief stone, suggested a flavor claim, got a couple of claims, defers to Zenith??? for a D2 mass flavor claim. What do you think about the td vs me interaction?

pops
: Is your main case on TD at the moment, you thinking he faked a town slip? What do you think about the td vs me interaction?

Sujimichi
: Quite active (NAI), logical (NAI) and also I like his post 257. Forced to TR him at this point since he's one of the few trying.

In post 248, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 244, alimdia wrote:Proof that OMGUS isn't a scumtell: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 6&start=50

Why my vote is not an OMGUS: I have other reasons for voting you (see above post), and not just solely because your vote happened to be on me.
An opinion poll from 12 years ago is not proof, and I question why you exerted effort to find that to support your opinion instead of a simple dismissal of it as invalid. Could you help me understand your reaction? Overall, your defense seems disproportionate to the attack, but that could be your behavioral style, and I don't disagree with your rationale for placing the vote, to begin with.
Bit tired of scummy people saying 'OMGUS' and then... just because they voted me first, it means I can't vote for them if I have other reasons?

Zenith
: I do want to know why you keep asking everyone if you can vote X though?

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:35 am
by gobbledygook
Alimidia, what are you wanting answered with your second “why” to me?

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:41 am
by Blatant Scum
In post 271, Zenith wrote:May I have permission to vote for alimdia?
Again.
You don't need permission to vote.
It is
your
vote. If you feel that you should vote the person, vote it.
As long as it is not a hammer.

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:08 am
by alimdia
In post 277, gobbledygook wrote:Alimidia, what are you wanting answered with your second “why” to me?
Just wanna hear your reasonings basically

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:10 am
by alimdia
In post 278, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 271, Zenith wrote:May I have permission to vote for alimdia?
Again.
You don't need permission to vote.
It is
your
vote. If you feel that you should vote the person, vote it.
As long as it is not a hammer.
Also I just checked all his games to see if its something he usually does. It's not.

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:19 am
by Blatant Scum
In post 269, alimdia wrote:Explain your town read? This really reads like a soft defense.
My point is, that he didn't do anything scummy at all, yet was catapulted to L-2.
+ some minor tonal reads.

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:54 am
by Zenith
Not selecting my stone may bring side effects. Increasing severity the longer I go without it, but nothing too serious.

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:28 am
by Sujimichi
In post 261, Zenith wrote:You're welcome to think whatever you want. I pay attention and keep personal notes. Have released personal notes pt to public at the end of completed game before.
I think you miss the point. Withholding your thoughts does not help advance the game, and sharing them does. I do not see the benefit to town for you to withhold them.

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:28 am
by Sujimichi
In post 267, gobbledygook wrote:VOTE: td
Why did you shift your vote here?

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:29 am
by Sujimichi
In post 271, Zenith wrote:@Anyone
May I have permission to vote for alimdia?
Why are you asking permission to vote for someone again?

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:31 am
by Sujimichi
In post 276, alimdia wrote:Sujimichi: Quite active (NAI), logical (NAI) and also I like his post 257. Forced to TR him at this point since he's one of the few trying.
Blatant Scum made post . Which post of mine did you like, and why did you like it?

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:34 am
by Sujimichi
In post 281, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 269, alimdia wrote:Explain your town read? This really reads like a soft defense.
My point is, that he didn't do anything scummy at all, yet was catapulted to L-2.
+ some minor tonal reads.
I disagree with that assessment. So far, he has had the "scummiest" behavior. Your description of "catapulted" is interesting given the vote trajectory of his wagon as well.

Who is mafia, Blatant Scum? Your vote remains on yourself, and I don't see how that is helpful.

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:34 am
by Sujimichi
In post 238, Wake1 wrote:Will be reading over the game tonight.
Did this happen? Are you going to share your thoughts?

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:53 am
by gobbledygook
In post 284, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 267, gobbledygook wrote:VOTE: td
Why did you shift your vote here?
Wagons are good

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:57 am
by Sujimichi
You could have placed it on alimdia and also had a wagon.

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:59 am
by gobbledygook
In post 290, Sujimichi wrote:You could have placed it on alimdia and also had a wagon.
I could have placed my vote on anyone and had a wagon, technically. But that misses the overall point. It is better to wagon the largest wagon than to try and vanity something.

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:02 am
by Sujimichi
alimdia would have had three votes and TiphaineDeath four. To say that your vote placed on anyone else would have been equivalent is disingenuous. Why is it better to take TiphaineDeath from four to five than alimdia from two to three? To simply create a larger wagon is not a good answer, as is it not also useful to review wagons of similar size?

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:06 am
by gobbledygook
In post 279, alimdia wrote:
In post 277, gobbledygook wrote:Alimidia, what are you wanting answered with your second “why” to me?
Just wanna hear your reasonings basically
Pops is posing lots of original thoughts rather than trite buzzword scumhunting which is typical of scum.
Blatant Scum is blatant scum. I mean it is in the name. Can he be anymore obvious?

You already commented on my Zenith suspicions, which we agree on. Yay!

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:07 am
by gobbledygook
In post 292, Sujimichi wrote:alimdia would have had three votes and TiphaineDeath four. To say that your vote placed on anyone else would have been equivalent is disingenuous. Why is it better to take TiphaineDeath from four to five than alimdia from two to three? To simply create a larger wagon is not a good answer, as is it not also useful to review wagons of similar size?
Normally I agree, but at this stage of the game I would disagree.

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:14 am
by Blatant Scum
In post 282, Zenith wrote:Not selecting my stone may bring side effects. Increasing severity the longer I go without it, but nothing too serious.
Do you hard claim drug addict?
Does this get solved with your death?

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:22 am
by Blatant Scum
In post 287, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 281, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 269, alimdia wrote:Explain your town read? This really reads like a soft defense.
My point is, that he didn't do anything scummy at all, yet was catapulted to L-2.
+ some minor tonal reads.
I disagree with that assessment. So far, he has had the "scummiest" behavior. Your description of "catapulted" is interesting given the vote trajectory of his wagon as well.

Who is mafia, Blatant Scum? Your vote remains on yourself, and I don't see how that is helpful.
I really am not good in this "making reads" thing. I townread TiphaineDeath. That's pretty much everything so far.
I guess I will poke VOTE: Dong

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:21 am
by Zenith
In post 283, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 261, Zenith wrote:You're welcome to think whatever you want. I pay attention and keep personal notes. Have released personal notes pt to public at the end of completed game before.
I think you miss the point. Withholding your thoughts does not help advance the game, and sharing them does. I do not see the benefit to town for you to withhold them.
Blue green 42 burritos mmm sriracha kittens moonlight nefarious rasta beetle.

Sharing every thought would be a antitown. Not witholding anything worth sharing.
In post 285, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 271, Zenith wrote:@Anyone
May I have permission to vote for alimdia?
Why are you asking permission to vote for someone again?
Why not?
In post 295, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 282, Zenith wrote:Not selecting my stone may bring side effects. Increasing severity the longer I go without it, but nothing too serious.
Do you hard claim drug addict?
Does this get solved with your death?
Huh? Don't know what that means.

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:22 am
by popsofctown
I think Tiphaine Death's fake townslip and his followups are the scummiest thing in the game thread still, yes alimdia.

BS is a crazy slot but there are reasons to think maybe he's always like this or something.

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:27 am
by Sujimichi
In post 298, popsofctown wrote:I think Tiphaine Death's fake townslip and his followups are the scummiest thing in the game thread still, yes alimdia.

BS is a crazy slot but there are reasons to think maybe he's always like this or something.
I have a new town read in gobbledygook. What are your thoughts?