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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:08 pm
by popsofctown
In post 268, Yshtola Rhul wrote:
In post 218, Miss Lane wrote:Additionally, I think explanations for votes are overrated and used far more often than warranted. While it's possible, even likely, that we don't see eye-to-eye on this matter, thinking that it's scummy seems to be a bit of a stretch in my opinion.

Finally, I think it's pretty scummy that of the players in the game right now, the only two you can really list as possibly scummy are Homura and me. Several players have acted outside the bounds of solid, consistently town play and have solid reasons for suspicion, but none of them seem to catch your eye at all.
Which players fit this criteria?
How do you feel about being <my townread that is definitionally tied with all other townreads I have>

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:08 pm
by Alduskkel
VOTE: Egix

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:08 pm
by Auro
Also, while I'd *love* to talk about White Flag, mods said to treat it as an ongoing game, so ugh.

I want to alt-hunt Rhul. Hmm.

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:11 pm
by Egix96
In post 251, Alduskkel wrote:Egix, who do you scumread?
Honestly no idea.

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:13 pm
by Alduskkel
so how do you plan on fixing that

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:13 pm
by popsofctown
In post 277, Auro wrote:Also, while I'd *love* to talk about White Flag, mods said to treat it as an ongoing game, so ugh.

I want to alt-hunt Rhul. Hmm.
Micc nommed the Open for a scummy and then said you can discuss the completed games as long as you don't discuss team dynamics
I'm like, meh about Team Mafia as a general concept itself, (which may or may not be sour grapes at my -individual- loss) so am probably gonna say whatever, feel free to refuse to respond or report my posts and try to get me banned etc.
Kinda am not vibing with watching the mod nom a townie for an award for using verbal abuse to scumhunt and make the scum more readable and then turn around and respect a gag order about the event but that's just drunkpops

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:13 pm
by Yshtola Rhul
In post 271, Auro wrote:
In post 264, Yshtola Rhul wrote:It appears like you are scumreading players for not explaining their thoughts. Is this accurate?
Not really. In Homura's case, for having only that thought and nothing else. In Miss Lynch's case, for claiming many things which I find untrue ("solid cases on XYZ") and refusing to explain them, along with other reasons.
I'm confused, this appears to be reinforcing my thought rather than discounting it.

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:14 pm
by Miss Lane
In post 274, Yshtola Rhul wrote:
In post 225, Miss Lane wrote:This isn't a rebuttal, at best an excuse. I think we both know that you know better than "just because someone isn't voting them now doesn't mean they've never voted them."
I'm confused by what you are saying in this post. Can you reiterate?
Auro tries to accuse me of voting for Asduck with no previously stated reasoning, and backs up his claim by saying that no one is currently voting Askud. My response to him is that this looks like pointlessly flinging shit in my direction. Someone had previously stated reasoning for voting Asgard while doing so, and (as far as I'm aware) solely unvoted due to said player finding a more appealing reason to vote elsewhere. So not only is his argument theoretically irrelevant to the point that he's trying to reach, it is practically so as well. He should know significantly better than this. To me it looks like he's trying to find players that he can get away with scum reading and he doesn't want to back off of his stance because it draws negative attention in his direction if he can get away with saying things that seem like they're relevant but aren't.

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:14 pm
by popsofctown
i want to believe yshtola is a main because viera are beautiful

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:15 pm
by popsofctown
Ankamius shares my love of viera so there's alt equity there though

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:16 pm
by Auro
In post 281, Yshtola Rhul wrote:I'm confused, this appears to be reinforcing my thought rather than discounting it.
As in "not explaining thoughts" is not an isolated reason I'm scumreading them for?

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:17 pm
by Auro
In post 16, Yshtola Rhul wrote:Hello everybody, my name is Y'shtola Rhul. I am here as an observer and a scholar to the art of mafia.

I will be on standby if needed.
I'm 100% sure this doesn't come from a fresh main account. I found this and Ald's reaction to it hilarious.

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:18 pm
by popsofctown
Auro I didn't say I should believe
I said I want to believe
don't hurt me

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:18 pm
by Auro
In post 282, Miss Lane wrote:Auro tries to accuse me of voting for Asduck with no previously stated reasoning, and backs up his claim by saying that no one is currently voting Askud. My response to him is that this looks like pointlessly flinging shit in my direction.
In post 223, Auro wrote:You're the only vote on Alk.
Maybe I missed it, where's the "solid reasoning for Alk"? Quote please.
:neutral:

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:19 pm
by Alduskkel
In post 280, popsofctown wrote:Kinda am not vibing with watching the mod nom a townie for an award for using verbal abuse to scumhunt and make the scum more readable and then turn around and respect a gag order about the event but that's just drunkpops
wait do you mean auro or is it a player not in this game?

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:20 pm
by Miss Lane
In post 268, Yshtola Rhul wrote:
In post 218, Miss Lane wrote:Additionally, I think explanations for votes are overrated and used far more often than warranted. While it's possible, even likely, that we don't see eye-to-eye on this matter, thinking that it's scummy seems to be a bit of a stretch in my opinion.

Finally, I think it's pretty scummy that of the players in the game right now, the only two you can really list as possibly scummy are Homura and me. Several players have acted outside the bounds of solid, consistently town play and have solid reasons for suspicion, but none of them seem to catch your eye at all.
Which players fit this criteria?
Klick, woodchuck, Asgor, chemist

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:20 pm
by Alduskkel
i was working under the impression that yshtola isn't an alt

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:21 pm
by popsofctown
Not a player in this game.
Evaluating the strength of Auro's play in White Flag is complex but the sportsmanship his sportsmanship in WhiteFlag is plainly 10/10

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:21 pm
by Egix96
In post 279, Alduskkel wrote:so how do you plan on fixing that
This afternoon I'll have a go.

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:22 pm
by CheekyTeeky
In post 230, Alduskkel wrote:I feel like the stuff you quoted is more conversational rather than scum trying to make content for the sake of content.
What's the difference?

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:23 pm
by Auro
In post 280, popsofctown wrote:Micc nommed the Open for a scummy and then said you can discuss the completed games as long as you don't discuss team dynamics
Ah sure then.

The game being part of Team Mafia made me a lot more competitive for the win, so I put in
a lot
of effort there, while being unfairly scumread by a bunch of non-cooperating townsfolk. I was telling Cheeky not to expect that level of effort and patience this game.

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:23 pm
by popsofctown
Hm I think I would not townread yshtola if I really thought she was a main

If hecticgenie grants my wish that she is a main against literally all indications and reason she would not be townread she would be HYPERTOWNREAD HER
(but more seriously my townread of her is based on my idea of how an alt would approach this game)

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:24 pm
by Alduskkel
In post 294, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 230, Alduskkel wrote:I feel like the stuff you quoted is more conversational rather than scum trying to make content for the sake of content.
What's the difference?
It reads more like NAI human conversation than scum filler.

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:25 pm
by Yshtola Rhul
In post 296, popsofctown wrote:Hm I think I would not townread yshtola if I really thought she was a main

If hecticgenie grants my wish that she is a main against literally all indications and reason she would not be townread she would be HYPERTOWNREAD HER
(but more seriously my townread of her is based on my idea of how an alt would approach this game)
What is your idea of how an alt would approach this game?

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:26 pm
by popsofctown
alduskkell you are getting precipitously close from jumping from null to DEFINITIONALLY TIED WITH MY OTHER TOWNREADS