In post 226, HoldenGolden wrote:Hiraki, If you agree with me about the points I made with HEM, why are you voting still for Luca?
My vote is metaphysically on both. There's no reason for me to switch if the wagons are the same. If you really want me to, I guess I could. I don't really care.
In the town games I've looked through, you seem to have more of a scum hunting attitude.
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:37 pm
by shiki
In post 273, bugspray wrote:looked like you were referencing the gambler's fallacy
oh with regards to my rvs vote? it seemed strange to me that monkey treated it as non-rvs, he would have had to have believed my reasoning was basically a reverse gambler's fallacy for it to not be rvs.
In post 277, Madoka wrote:Bugs can you link me one of your scum games?
In the town games I've looked through, you seem to have more of a scum hunting attitude.
bugspray feels noticeably less coherent to me in this game compared to other games of theirs i've read.
Can you give an example? Also what happened to your Datisi read?
Bugs can you answer this? Also, your new playstyle isn't working. It would be helpful if you scum hunted, especially since this is a Blitz game.
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:16 pm
by GeorgeBailey
In post 60, Hiraki wrote:What's the point of this conversation? Are you going to SR him or something?
This felt weirdly defensive for Datisi, especially after you say something like
In post 51, Hiraki wrote:Actually, upon a re-read, I don't like 90% of Datisi's posts and I'm not sure if it's worth a SR or if it's just me being a little cranky at 1:30 AM.
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:18 pm
by shiki
In post 279, bugspray wrote:have you ever been lynched for trying to scumhunt early and then tried to change up your playstyle?
i have not. the only time i have been lynched so far was because i hammered somehow who posted town's win condition (there was no sample pm). i was scum.
In post 280, GeorgeBailey wrote:One thing to note for shiki, now that I know she's Team Rocket Queen from that one Newbie game makes a lot more sense now.
She seemed to town-tell quite early in that game.
not sure how representative this statement is since town tried to lynch me with only one of the mafia members on the wagon until i was forced to claim pr. you replaced in after i had claimed.
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:20 pm
by GeorgeBailey
In post 286, Datisi wrote:Also would like your professional opinion if these gears are in normal mode or in overdrive here
They're teetering, but not enough to be in their sum range.
Like, compare Bug's opening this game, to:
bugspray wrote:Hey who wants to me my romantic partner for this thread? We can do stuff like post *kiss* and other cute stuff in the thread. I'm pan so anyone can qualify
Tbh, they're still my RVS too which is problematic.
After reading through, I think Hiraki is best tbh.
Yeah, but if you look in my catch-up posts I said I town read you very early on. You questioned that I could be scum lying, but I turned out to be PR afterwards.
Please do elaborate and also give reads on other players n stuff
Ok goodnight
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:30 pm
by shiki
In post 292, GeorgeBailey wrote:Yeah, but if you look in my catch-up posts I said I town read you very early on. You questioned that I could be scum lying, but I turned out to be PR afterwards.
that's true, i guess to you i was town telling early. just seemed a little odd to say about a game that town tried to lynch me day one, i guess.
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:32 pm
by GeorgeBailey
Yeah after reading Hiraki's interactions with Luca, a lot of Hiraki's points felt aggressive and out of nowhere, especially when Luca's conversation with Datisi felt like he was trying to shift the game out of RVS.
In post 60, Hiraki wrote:What's the point of this conversation? Are you going to SR him or something?
This felt weirdly defensive for Datisi, especially after you say something like
In post 51, Hiraki wrote:Actually, upon a re-read, I don't like 90% of Datisi's posts and I'm not sure if it's worth a SR or if it's just me being a little cranky at 1:30 AM.
Did you even read what I said after 51? Or did you just skip it and go to that post?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:32 pm
by Hiraki
I also don't think that the amount that you said is even grossly appropriate for what has occurred in this game. We're 12 pages in on a 2 day deadline and you have given nothing but a random hop on my wagon that isn't even justified because it didn't include all of the context of what I said and skipped over more than a few posts. You also decided to talk about bug's opening post as a reason for your read on him in the end. Nothing in the middle happened to help? Just that? No one else did anything?
In post 295, GeorgeBailey wrote:Yeah after reading Hiraki's interactions with Luca, a lot of Hiraki's points felt aggressive and out of nowhere, especially when Luca's conversation with Datisi felt like he was trying to shift the game out of RVS.
Where on earth did "agressiveness" become a scumtell? Aggressiveness is a remark on one's playstyle. You can be an aggressive townie or an aggressive scum.
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:44 pm
by GeorgeBailey
In post 296, Hiraki wrote:Did you even read what I said after 51? Or did you just skip it and go to that post?
Your backpedaling after being called out? Yes, I read that.
In post 54, Hiraki wrote:Perhaps later. Just throwing some bait in the water. I could just not enjoy your posting style either which will make things difficult.
You back off and say "I was just baiting, but I might SR you idk"
In post 63, Hiraki wrote:Perfectly fine with my vote atm. This conversation seems more than forced and really dumb. I don't get how a conversation that has nothing to do with the game will help you figure out something that has to do with the game when you don't even have a good grasp of Datasi's meta after 3 pages. And Datasi has the most posts in this game by far without me checking.
Like, your point for not liking Luca's conversation is that he has no grasp on Datisi's meta and that he shouldn't comment/ask about it? The question was clearly to get Datisi's opinion on his current state, it didn't even come across as opportunistic. It feels like you're defending Datisi when he isn't even being attacked. Which is why being aggressive is relevant to the scumtell.
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:56 pm
by Madoka
George, what's your read on Shiki and Hem? What do you think of Shiki's case on Hem?