Micro 935 | Chain of Command | Game Over!

[Kanna]

absolutely nothing

i know you're thinking "mena pretended to be a newbie in his opening in another game and he was scum" but i think that's just aI "menalque thing" rather than a "scum thing"

and i think connecting that to oka is misguided at best, disingenuous at worst

I've seen it happen 2(?) times and they weren't both from Mena. *but* I kinda don't feel so strongly about it anymore

[Kanna]

Ico Ico Ico <3

ngl, my first impression was this was *exactly* how you opened in strawberry. I haven't played with town!ico before though so I'm gonna do some research before making a read (which will be soon). Also very interested to hear about me.

@Datisi, where have you seen "town!ico do this"?

[Datisi]

@Datisi, where have you seen "town!ico do this"?

push things early game? idk, i think like every game that i have played with him. that's why i said, i'm aware that what he's doing is NAI. i just want us to be town together.

however, i have noticed one (1) posting that i think is town!indicative for ico. so yeet.

what's your reads on other players present?

[OkaPoka]

you know this is hilarious to me because i didn't know mena did the newbie scumtell thing on person

its also sad to know that im not as creative and original as i thought i was

[OkaPoka]

anyways i dont like qq's vote on pepper, putting him at l1 isn't why tho

[OkaPoka]

Dr. Pepper seems to be a mislynch but a better vote.

like if you believe this why say this @quantumquasar who does this help, why do we have to know this

[QuantumQuasar]

A structure is in place and Dr. Pepper voted to disrupt that line of command by voting me when we're organized enough to know that the outcome should have that very same structure covered.

[Datisi]

what structure are you talking about?

[QuantumQuasar]

what structure are you talking about?

post 2

[Datisi]

so you're voting drpepper even though you think he's town?

[QuantumQuasar]

Unless this is hec-shiki, I've skimread some of shiki's other games and they've made pretty out there deductions

pedit: VT claims shrink the pool of possible PRs, no?

Aren't we playing under the fact that most people are VTs anyway?

If anything, if they're actually a PR they can just opt.not to claim it

eh?

Ok, what kind of answer were you expecting from #43?

~k

TBH I just need to know what Quantum quasar is doing.

This could be indicative of rank, but the explanation of that is ad hominem towards me, instead of hierarchy.

[Datisi]

I think you should focus less on "ranks" and more on actually sorting people? Ranks aren't correlated with alignments.

[QuantumQuasar]

This discussion is terminated.

[Euphony]

Is it bad that I find Quantum hilarious

The armoury is two doors down to the right, Quentin Quantum, and yes, we passed recruitment years ago.

A structure is in place and Dr. Pepper voted to disrupt that line of command by voting me when we're organized enough to know that the outcome should have that very same structure covered.

VOTE: quantumquasar

pat me on the back and sheep me

Yes sir

VOTE: QQ[/vote,]

I'm a bit worried this slot is lynchbait and that maybe what QQ does is NAI as it seems to be a common pattern, but I don't see the logic in voting for the AFK

Do you mean you dislike this vote, Quentin? Is it because there might be counterintelligence involved in the comms, or that the private asks no question of his general despite there being a potential flaw in the battleplan?

┬┴┬┬┬ Hectic

[Euphony]

hmm i think i have my first scumteam solve

are you shaking in your boots datisi

I'm shaking in my bunker; let's hear what it is.

absolutely nothing

i know you're thinking "mena pretended to be a newbie in his opening in another game and he was scum" but i think that's just aI "menalque thing" rather than a "scum thing"

and i think connecting that to oka is misguided at best, disingenuous at worst

I've seen it happen 2(?) times and they weren't both from Mena. *but* I kinda don't feel so strongly about it anymore

Both from scum you mean?

Ä°°ö- Hectic

[Euphony]

DoctarCocaCola shouldnät claim if that wasnät obvious. Iäm fine with the Lß1, just donät hammer or Iäm treating it as a scumclaim. Or if not scum, then a peasant claim at the verz least. Cola, Iäd like to hear what zou find scummz about Ico when zou come back.

I think mz connectionös being muddled somehow. Gonna go check the control panel to see whatäs wrong.

°-.._ Hectic

[DoctorPepper]

Yeah you're not getting a claim this early.

Anyone else sus about the wagon on me?

The problem I have with QQ now is that I don't know if this is their scum play or if it's just NAI.

Nonetheless I'm sticking to my current vote

[Drew-Sta]

Re the bolded - I think votes are breadcrumbs, and who you select when you read different people scum is important. Because it shows intent and it shows your contribution to a lynch. There's no way in future days we can win if we aren't able to see the pattern scum forms by their voting habits.

Can you answer the specific question? (Why did you ask that question in particular?) It's very important!

I think the decision why you vote for someone over another when you read them both as suspect is important to understand. Leaving it open means you can reinterpret an action down the track.

For instance, if I say 'I believe X is scum because of Y, and A is scum because of B', then you have a reference point to go back and work out what that person was thinking. If that person changes their view, you have a chance to actually critique the reasons. Thus, down the track you can see if someone has been consistent or if they're simply throwing shade as a way of keeping the lynch pool wide open and thus, not have suspicion laid on them.

Basically, town is always going to be consistent (aside - consistent doesn't mean they won't make mistakes. Just that their mistakes will make sense, if you follow) and scum are always at some level lying because they need to find reasons to lynch town, and thus have to make them up.

Does that help?

I think you should focus less on "ranks" and more on actually sorting people? Ranks aren't correlated with alignments.

I concur. The rank thing is getting old.

[Drew-Sta]

Oka, in my opinion, is trying to ride that line between looking scummy and looking town as a means of making themselves appear a poor NK target.

IMHO.

[OkaPoka]

idk the more i play the more i realize townies are actually more inconsistent and scum are pretty good at being consistent

its really about reading intentions and the more holistic picture

[DoctorPepper]

Wouldn't scum have more reason to be consistent because they know the game state?

[OkaPoka]

Wouldn't scum have more reason to be consistent because they know the game state?

this is my experience

[DoctorPepper]

Exactly.

Scum would be more calculated while town would most likely throw haymakers.

[Drew-Sta]

Because if they're consistent and look too town-like, they end up getting heat for not being NK'd, in my opinion.

It's a view. I can accept that it isn't shared by everyone.

[Drew-Sta]

But also, the reasons on which they're consistent are in effect a lie. And that's also part of my point. Looking to find those is, in my view, working to find inconsistency with the reality of the game.