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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:38 pm
by Dunnstral
Well I don't feel great about a hellbooks lynch at the moment either. We're locked into the choice that was made, though.

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:15 pm
by hellbooks
In post 260, Varsoon wrote:They think it's cool to lynch someone for coasting.
Weird thing to say
In post 270, Yukino wrote:What about the nature of Hellbook lurking puts them below Dunn for you?
i'm simply not lurking
that's just like a falsehood
In post 272, Raya36 wrote:I just don't find he's saying much. Read through his iso and see if he says anything committal or game advancing.
are you talking about me here
if so why r u using they for dunnstral and he for me
that's like 0/2 on pronoun reads
that's just flat out confusing

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:16 pm
by Dunnstral
So why do you think I'm mafia, hellbooks?

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:16 pm
by Dunnstral
I consider 'they' to be neutral

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:17 pm
by hellbooks
i townread raya and kind of townread dkkoba, nothing from the replacement, null on dunn, yukino varsoon nash none are great, probably null scum to scum. idk. so... yeah. that's why i'm voting dunn.

pedit well they're the answer to your q.

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:17 pm
by hellbooks
*there's. sorry lol. you were talking about 'they' and it got in my head

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:28 pm
by Raya36
In post 276, hellbooks wrote:
In post 272, Raya36 wrote:I just don't find he's saying much. Read through his iso and see if he says anything committal or game advancing.
are you talking about me here
if so why r u using they for dunnstral and he for me
that's like 0/2 on pronoun reads
that's just flat out confusing
Yes, that's about you. Sorry idk why my pronouns are wrong and inconsistent. I'll pay more attention

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:28 pm
by Raya36
In post 278, Dunnstral wrote:I consider 'they' to be neutral
Not game related but I generally use they when I can't remember or don't know. I forgot for Hellbooks and defaulted to he. sorry

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:29 pm
by hellbooks
its ok. anyway- i feel like i have committed to many a stance; advanced many a game

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:30 pm
by Raya36
In post 279, hellbooks wrote:i townread raya and kind of townread dkkoba, nothing from the replacement, null on dunn, yukino varsoon nash none are great, probably null scum to scum. idk. so... yeah. that's why i'm voting dunn.

pedit well they're the answer to your q.
So can I conclude from this you prefer a Dunn lynch as of now?

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:30 pm
by hellbooks
i am like literally voting him

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:33 pm
by Raya36
In post 97, hellbooks wrote:
In post 20, Varsoon wrote:I want to engage with the mechanic of the game rather than treating it like it doesn't exist.
Feels against the spirit of the setup to do anything else.
Very slight "self-consciousness" ping.
In post 28, Varsoon wrote:In my experience, WIFOM tends to favor scum.
Agree w this ftr: i think it makes far more sense to nom a townread in the early game and
consider
nomming scumreads later in the game to force their hand?
In post 51, Yukino wrote:What a boring entrance, you can do better then that!
Sorry. here's my real entrance.
In post 64, Varsoon wrote:Hellbrooks: Can you comment a bit more on the gamestate and your thoughts on players so far?
ya sure sure... hm... wouldn't agree with townread on yukino or scumread on raya... well both trend a little null i think. your one post i highlighted is tonally kinda scummy. dkkoba maybe scum just off the tailend of 59 and 60, both not great. just let me chill a little bit tho.
83 liking yukino a bit now.
In post 84, Raya36 wrote:I actually find statements like this to be quite towny.
I
urge
caution on this!!!!!
In post 95, Nash wrote:Just so you know, hellbooks was the last player to confirm. Not sure why no one pointed this out.
Huh? i like confirmed immediately. i just didn't check the game thread. lol.
This post for example has nothing committal.
In post 170, hellbooks wrote:
In post 107, DkKoba wrote:hellbrooks: they've been lurky in the shadows and suddenly came out to hammer the vote on me which I find scum asf. imma be real I have a suspicion that they're teamed with raya for the move they did there.
i've been
moving
...... also i
didnt
hammer... jeez....
this sucks!!!
In post 116, DkKoba wrote:include a third I reskimmed quickly and made my choice that way.
why so cavalier about it

raya
dunn
dkkoba
(t -> s)
In post 133, DkKoba wrote:like fr I think hellbooks hammering me with little explaination was fairly scummy and they seemed detached and just sheeping the wagon that had most votes and people need to see that
i didnt hammer you
In post 144, Varsoon wrote:I loathe moving but am grateful for it when it's done with.
yeah i'm tired af, thanks :)
In post 147, DkKoba wrote:ok so any reason you think this is town raya? because I'm not buying this casing.
it might not be a good read but it circumstantially can definitely come from town in fact one might say (I might say) that it has higher town equity
In post 154, DkKoba wrote:and I demand an explaination because at this point it feels like there's setup going on here where you force a nomination on me but also offer shade on other slots to set them up as MLs.
i have no explanation other than gut :cool:
In post 160, Varsoon wrote:I'm also pretty curious why DkKoba didn't nominate me but I wasn't going to ask since I'm already pretty self-absorbed.
this is mediumly scummy
Same for this one.

And most of your posts between are similar or fluff (I chose those just because they are larger posts with more responses)

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:34 pm
by Raya36
In post 285, hellbooks wrote:i am like literally voting him
Well yes but this doesn't sound like you scumread him:
In post 222, hellbooks wrote:VOTE: dunnstral
whatever lets be bad... lets be a little cheeky...

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:35 pm
by hellbooks
do you want me to be like signing a contract in blood about how i will think varsoon is scum for the next two years

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:40 pm
by Raya36
No but I'd like committed reads. Nothing at all was committed and that reads as either scum who is having trouble making scum cases on players they know are town, scum trying to keep options open while looking busy, or town not using their ability to pressure to it's full potential.

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:12 pm
by Varsoon
UNVOTE:
Phone posting for the first time a my entire Mafia career. I'm also using text-to-speech for the first time in my entire Mafia career. How exciting. Anyway Riya is now my top to vote for in this pool. I do not want to vote books. I suppose this is speech-to-text actually, it makes it very hard to get players names but maybe I can just write those. Anyway, sorry if I got any pronouns mixed up, I tend to use they and neutral pronouns for other players unless they explicitly ask.

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:18 pm
by Dunnstral
My biggest suspects are Nash and Yukino

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:47 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
let's kill someone already

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:02 pm
by Nash
I'm pretty sure both scum exist in the nom pool. Gut town pings from Varsoon and Yukino. Hellbook's and DkKoba's unrestrained posting make me townlean both of them as well.

That narrows it down to Dunn and Raya.
In post 233, Raya36 wrote:
In post 229, Varsoon wrote:So, I suppose my question is this:
If everyone in the pool is town by your take and you think I'm town:
What makes Nash and Yukino scum?
If I'm correct and the pool is entirely town and you're town then Nash and Yukino would have to be scum by PoE. But Nash is scummy for that quick lynch and I find it difficult to believe that he didn't check before voting (although maybe I'm paranoid of accidentally quick lynching). seems like busy work. Yukino is just null to me so purely PoE if this is the case.
I didn't quick kill anyone. What scum agenda do you find in that hammer? Why would scum!me think doing that is in anyway beneficial?
In post 279, hellbooks wrote:i townread raya and kind of townread dkkoba, nothing from the replacement, null on dunn, yukino varsoon nash none are great, probably null scum to scum. idk. so... yeah. that's why i'm voting dunn.

pedit well they're the answer to your q.
Why do you townread Raya?

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:04 pm
by Nash
In post 292, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:let's kill someone already
Who are your top two townreads?

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:07 pm
by Nash
In post 291, Dunnstral wrote:My biggest suspects are Nash and Yukino
If Yukino is null here, then that would imply you townread Raya to some extent. Do you?

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:12 pm
by Dunnstral
Yes I do

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:15 pm
by Nash
In post 296, Dunnstral wrote:Yes I do
Image

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:45 am
by Raya36
In post 293, Nash wrote:
In post 233, Raya36 wrote:
In post 229, Varsoon wrote:So, I suppose my question is this:
If everyone in the pool is town by your take and you think I'm town:
What makes Nash and Yukino scum?
If I'm correct and the pool is entirely town and you're town then Nash and Yukino would have to be scum by PoE. But Nash is scummy for that quick lynch and I find it difficult to believe that he didn't check before voting (although maybe I'm paranoid of accidentally quick lynching). seems like busy work. Yukino is just null to me so purely PoE if this is the case.
I didn't quick kill anyone. What scum agenda do you find in that hammer? Why would scum!me think doing that is in anyway beneficial?
Koba could be scum with you and you want them to nominate. (Although unlikely). Its possible scum!you wanted town!Koba over other players who were potential nominators. Although you have a point that there isn't much likely benefit

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:53 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 294, Nash wrote:
In post 292, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:let's kill someone already
Who are your top two townreads?
this game is painful to read, I tried but the flow feels wierd