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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:47 am
by Datisi
In post 222, Miccro Mask wrote:Although maybe you get some town points for misunderstanding what was happening with my role

But like you could be misunderstanding that as scum so... less townpoints
donc can you talk to me about this? it's lowkey reminding me of "this from datisi is reasonable but reasonable =/= town" for some reason from pyp

pedit: oh now that that's out of the way, do you have a read on me?

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:06 am
by DkKoba
In post 269, skitter30 wrote:
In post 201, DkKoba wrote:bugspray are u usually hang-bait with the way you play bc my gut instinct is to insta vote u and not unvote
I'm actually getting townpings from him rn ...
Not sure who you are referring to since both of us go by they/them

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:09 am
by skitter30
In post 273, Miccro Mask wrote:
In post 271, skitter30 wrote:
In post 232, DkKoba wrote:DC im ngl your analysis on the worst feels ingenuine and made up. Please ellaborate on it.
i kinda agree tbh
How come?
Feels like a lot of words and an overexplanation almost? like it felt a bit hollow
i'm aware i'm not explaining this super well

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:09 am
by skitter30
In post 276, DkKoba wrote:
In post 269, skitter30 wrote:
In post 201, DkKoba wrote:bugspray are u usually hang-bait with the way you play bc my gut instinct is to insta vote u and not unvote
I'm actually getting townpings from him rn ...
Not sure who you are referring to since both of us go by they/them
my bad !!!
i meant bugspray, apologies

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:10 am
by DkKoba
In post 253, bugspray wrote:ok datisi here's a town read: you the way you're approaching this is with the good logic
Being logical is not alignment indicative lol? I dont think datisi is scum but if this is how you are reading the game, then youre going to likely have bad reads

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:14 am
by DkKoba
i dont understand the case on dsjtr. If someone who foses them could explain it id appreciate it

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:16 am
by DkKoba
and re: bugspray: in decisively null on them rn bc the way they are playing is extemewly formulalic wrt how they are forming reads. Which is gimmicky but if anyone here has experience in sorting the bugspray slot itd.be appreciated.

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:22 am
by DkKoba
Also literally everyone at this table has played with me at some point so i know yall cant be dishonest abt reading me .
(Dsjtsr i think i have only specced a game they played or subbed into their slot or smthing but regardless)

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:25 am
by skitter30
i don't think i have played with you, actually

dsjstr just feels a bit off

bugspray i think isn't super capable of changing reads on a whim in a way that belies an underlying thought process (i.e. they're getting new information and it's rapidly affecting their votes and reads in real-time but i think it's all coming from a consistent pov)

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:33 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
ive played 2 games with bugspray and both times he was town he basically was not existent

since he's posting here it probly means he's scum

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:34 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
oops I meant they were not existent

im bad with pronouns

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:35 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
ping DonC on the QoL Koba thing - he's not that hard to read as scum

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:38 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
btw for bugspray my ref games r

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=83365 24 Posts - spent more time playing chess in our PT than actually posting in the game, showed up after game was over and was confused why it was over.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=83423 2 posts total - replaced out

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:54 am
by Datisi
VOTE: pooky

sorry you rolled scum again

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:57 am
by Datisi
In post 281, DkKoba wrote:if anyone here has experience in sorting the bugspray slot itd.be appreciated.
i have played 5 times with bugs, i've read them correctly 4/5 times (only screwed up in our first game)

in micro 932, i got to bugs!scum on page 4
in mobs9, i got to bugs!scum on page 1

bugs is town here

also that bugs read from pooky is very bad faith and pooky needs to eat rope, thank you

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:16 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
unvote


ok we'll see how good your read on bugs is

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:17 am
by Datisi
yeah, when you flip red today it's gonna spew them town

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:17 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
good joke

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:20 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 289, Datisi wrote:bugs read from pooky is very bad faith
how is it bad faith?

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:27 am
by Datisi
In post 293, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 289, Datisi wrote:bugs read from pooky is very bad faith
how is it bad faith?
there is no actual deeper thought there

like you walk in, see us discussing bugs reads, saying why we think they're towny or not etc

without even trying to engage w anything you go "hurr durr in these two games i played with bugs they didn't post a lot and they were town, they're posting more here ergo scum!!!" it's the most surface level garbage

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:29 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
and whether your thought process is deep or shallow is alignment indicative?

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:32 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
also whether my thought process is surface or deep has nothing to do with "in good faith" which is a reference to whether you think I'm being honest or not about my assessment.

so I will re-iterate - what makes you say my read is "dishonest"

I can see why you would say it's "shallow or not deep" but show me how you get to dishonest.

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:37 am
by Datisi
yes

bc while i was modding the coalition i thought some of your arguments looked extremely shallow

and at the sime time (in that nomination game nahdia was modding) you made a post about someone scumslipping or something, and even though i had read none of that game at the time, i saw that post and thought i'd vote you for it because no way it's a real thought

also again you didn't even try to engage w me/the worst/skitter who all expressed them being towny as opposed to citing two games as evidence of something so


ok scrolling hrough your ISO again, you did ask the worst "why" about bugs, but i think my point still stands you didn't engage with me/skitt, who were around and calling bugs towny so

pedit: hm, i may be somewhat interchangeably using deep/shallow with good/bad faith in this scenario

i think it's shallow because it is a very simple thought to make - playing differnently than these two town games, ergo scum

but the good/bad faith part comes more from not *trying* to make the read more profound, not asking people who thought bugs was town why that is, not asking about bugs's meta from people who obviously played with them etc

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:40 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 297, Datisi wrote:ok scrolling hrough your ISO again, you did ask the worst "why" about bugs, but i think my point still stands you didn't engage with me/skitt, who were around and calling bugs towny so
i didnt even read what you and skitt wrote

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:41 am
by Datisi
ok

so how much of the game did you read and do you have any other thoughts on anything