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Whemestar, if you really are town, I'm sorry, but out of you and Ahri I am still most suspicious of you, and I don't think there is time for us to change directions anymore to anyone else.



I have plans IRL, so I won't be back on until after the deadline, so I am going to go ahead and Hammer

VOTE: Whemestar

Well gl finding scum on my wagon

I don't think theres any obv town on my wagon so that sucks.

Actually before thread gets locked ima go out on a limb and say both ahri and i are town

Scum are in luke ivy demainer endless

Looking at voting patterns our wagons don't make sense.

GL guys I think this will be hard for town judging by how slow game is and how people are getting "bored" of the game. That's not a good look for town and lets scum coast to victory. Sorry I couldn't be the town leader we needed.

Saudade, WhemeStar, Egix96

Clasko

Demainer, Clasko, Lukewarm, endlessdark, Ivyeo, Saudade, Egix96

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In post 284, schadd_ wrote:

Ahri has been killed in the night! she was a

vanilla townie!

???

... Hunting for PR, or an attempt to incriminate the people on Ahri's wagon, perhaps?

In post 271, Lukewarm wrote: I am now as confident as you can possibly be on day 1, that either you or Ahri are scum

that post didn't age well at all

But that leaves me really confused as to why they would have targeted Ahri.

In post 287, Clasko wrote:... Hunting for PR, or an attempt to incriminate the people on Ahri's wagon, perhaps?

How does that incriminate the people on Ahri's wagon?

In post 289, Lukewarm wrote:How does that incriminate the people on Ahri's wagon?

If Ahri wasn't the chosen N1K, her wagon from D1 would have probably gone unchallenged - due to her inactivity in-game making her a reasonable choice for an elimination.

But, she was killed, and now there's more reason to look at her wagon.

Also, if mafia are on Wheme's wagon, as Wheme himself said before he died, mafia'll want a temporary diversion. But for the record I think this kill was more to find a power role:

In post 270, Ahri wrote:not a pr soft don't read into it

Maybe they read into it.

That's a great kill for town no?

I don't think it is, scum is obviously trying to avoid going after someone they have substantial interaction with in the thread.

The only notable thing about ahri is that she didn't engage in the thread at all, so the kill doesn't incriminate anyone. I'll need to read back the thread to check though.

And sorry Wheme for the misread, I know I can't bring you back to life but I'll try to avenge the elim.

VOTE: demainer eeeewwgh

In post 293, Saudade wrote:VOTE: demainer eeeewwgh

Seconded

VOTE: demainer

I'm assuming you both didn't like this line of dialogue?

In post 292, Demainer wrote:And sorry Wheme for the misread, I know I can't bring you back to life but I'll try to avenge the elim.

Also @ Dem, Ivy, Luke & endless:
Your posts were mainly about WhemeStar on D1, but do you guys get any town vibes from anyone in this game? If so, for what reason(s)?

I'd like to know where everyone stands before we discuss ideal D2 elim possibilities.

In post 295, Clasko wrote:I'd like to know where everyone stands before we discuss ideal D2 elim possibilities.

I'm gonna re-read from the beginning and see where that leads me.

Looking back, the thing with Demain is that it feels like he just wanted Wheme to die rather than making an honest effort to evaluate his alignment. Even before 109 which I touched on before.

In post 72, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 65, Egix96 wrote:Is Wheme simply being voted for making an apparent self-contradiction in his first post? Personally, I'm not finding that to be an issue, on a "scum would be more careful about contradicting themselves" level.

For me, it wasn't that he was contradicting himself. It just felt like he was contributing to an early wagon, while leaving a backdoor way to be able to say on day 2 "come on guys, I

told

you not to keep voting for this guy."

Admittedly its not a ton to go on, but its day 1, and its the strongest read I have so far.

This post gives me strongest town vibes of any within the first four pages - I find it hard to see this sort of line of reasoning coming from new!scum.

In post 90, Lukewarm wrote: Clasko hardly said anything until someone questioned it, then he town-read whemestar (my biggest scum vibes) because

In post 86, Clasko wrote:their argument feels cyclical and non-scripted = less chance to be W v. W

And I don't understand the logic. Why would deducing that they are not BOTH scum automatically mean that neither one is?



I am town reading Demainer using Clasko's logic. It does not seem like a scum v scum conversation, and I think that whemestar is the more likely scum of the pair.

However, what I don't get is why you TR someone using logic you don't understand - especially since the stance you took here is... not the best look.

In post 298, Egix96 wrote: However, what I don't get is why you TR someone using logic you don't understand - especially since the stance you took here is... not the best look.

I don't think I expressed my opinion as well as I could have in that post.

There were two points in Clasko's post:
-The conversation between Wheme and Demainer did not look like a scum v scum conversation
-therefore both of them were town

I read his comment, and I agreed with the first point, it did not seem like a scum v scum conversation (which turns out was true) But I disagreed with / did not understand why we would then jump to saying both were town.

So I took the part I agreed with, and re-evaluated with the lens of "it is not both demainer AND whemestar." After reading back I thought Wheme seemed more suspicious, and moved forward trying to think who Wheme's partner could be.

But now that Wheme flipped town, that logic no longer protects Demainer. So I voted him lol

Tldr; I did not think it could be BOTH Wheme and Demainer, and since I was more suspicious of Wheme that would indicate that it was not Demainer. But the moment Wheme flipped town, that opened Demainer back up for suspicion.