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In post 134, The Emperor wrote:I have a meta read on Bingle which I'll hold onto for now

So the meta read here is that scum Bingle doesn't really joke around about mech early game, while he almost always does as town from what I've seen

I don't really like the angle he's taking wrt to ta vera right now. 159 felt selective since it doesn't mention ta vera's mech analysis which I actually felt like it served some use, as well as her push on The Senate

In post 275, The Emperor wrote:

In post 134, The Emperor wrote:I have a meta read on Bingle which I'll hold onto for now

So the meta read here is that scum Bingle doesn't really joke around about mech early game, while he almost always does as town from what I've seen

However,

I don't really like the angle he's taking wrt to ta vera right now. 159 felt selective since it doesn't mention ta vera's mech analysis which I actually felt like it served some use, as well as her push on The Senate

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In post 193, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:I agree with Datisi's characterization, but I would think that the fear of being undermined by scum would be more towny than anything? Unless he's that confident in his scumgame that he expects to become townread.

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In post 219, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:Wouldn't scum-Norwee know that even if I get myself in hot water there's a good chance lilith comes and saves my ass and then he just looks silly?

If he was seriously trying to get me killed, that is.

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In post 265, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:

In post 263, Green Cap Boys wrote:I never used the word "useful".

Well, I don't understand what Dwlee would expect to gain by giving the appearance of engaging uselessly.

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In post 268, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:Unsure if the same head but Retti directly said in 259 that they thought Dwlee was trying to appear like they were here, which I assume is only an appearance scum would want to have if it helps them in some way?

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Townleaning Limit Breakers for these takes

What's town about them, exactly?

-R

Emperor what do you think about Datisi’s twin brother claiming they disagree on Datisi’s take on me?

hm. this just occured to me: norwee, wasn't there a ~recent game we played in where someone asked if they should townread me for my emotions, and you said that they shouldn't because i got pissy in smuggler's? why do you think my anger here is genuine? (let me know if i'm mixing something up, right now i cannot even remember where this happened or if i'm making things up.)

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something rings wrong to me about emperor making a huge wallpost about me/norwee interaction, but only a tiny section of it is dedicated for why he found me scummy. i'd ask why is he that sure that that's me spinning things scummy as opposed to me seeing something and calling it out, but something tells me that won't be a productive discussion? iunno.

actually sure - why do you think it makes me scum as opposed to someone who saw it differently than you?

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In post 280, Green Cap Boys wrote:hm. this just occured to me: norwee, wasn't there a ~recent game we played in where someone asked if they should townread me for my emotions, and you said that they shouldn't because i got pissy in smuggler's? why do you think my anger here is genuine? (let me know if i'm mixing something up, right now i cannot even remember where this happened or if i'm making things up.)

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I think you're right. I do remember it.

I've spent about 10 minutes searching and i can't find the game. ;(

not sure if the specific game matters, my q is - why do you townread my anger here?

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Because it feels townie...? It's not like i analyzed your posts, it just feels to me like a typical townie response.
I don't know why i didn't feel the same in Smuggler port because it's way too long ago but it probably wasn't the same if my conclusion is different here.

Generally speaking, angry "OMG MISREPPED MY POSTS U SCUUUUMMMMM" usually come from town you know.
You probably didn't react that way in Smuggler port or you did it in an much more relaxed and malicious manner.

So like going over it. I think this is the closest we get to "anger" from scum!Datisi's side. Which sure, could be similar to what we're seeing here.
But i don't think scum!Datisi would bring this up as it just brings attention to the fact that they could be more likely to be scum in this game which is an ?? point.



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vague +1 on moment/nk15 probably not svs

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In post 1453, Alisae wrote:you also don't understand how bad icon is with mechanics

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s_s's day 2 is giving me different vibes than in jk9++

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In post 1516, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 1502, NorwegianboyEE wrote:My ratio for likelihood of being scum in this pool is about
80% likelihood it's Datisi
19% Likelihood it's NotScience
1% Likelihood it's Moment.

These probabilities should not add up to 100%.

In post 1517, Something_Smart wrote:And also, they're awful, but that's a different issue.

can you talk more about this? what is your read on me?

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pedit: lol funny, have you completely missed mena's posts this game, nk15? when did notscience go from being in your suspect pool to being lhf?

ppedit: i am literally right here[/quote]

Ops. Stupid quote shit. I hate quoting from locked threads.

hnnng. i don't like seeing quotes from that game.

okay fine, you can be town for now. i don't hate your responses, and i feel like scum!norwee would've made a more elaborate and bullshit-y response than "idk lol this one doesn't feel scummy".

and i also feel like scum!norwee wouldn't spend so much effort going back and looking for quotes. does that make sense? one response felt too low-effort for scum, the other too high-effort.

anyway, let's VOTE: the emperor in the meantime.

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In post 275, The Emperor wrote:So the meta read here is that scum Bingle doesn't really joke around about mech early game, while he almost always does as town from what I've seen

Contextually bad read, but probably a genuine one given the nuance. If you want to compare that game to a similar towngame of mine, you should look at the lovers and losers reset.

Why would I consider mech analysis from ta Vera as AI when mech analysis is explicitly not AI?

I'm down to vote any of cass, mastina and Fairy Circle. In fact,

VOTE: Fairy Circle

The mod explicitly announces this hydra sub and still no posts.

In post 278, Green Cap Boys wrote:What's town about them, exactly?

-R

Nuanced takes which I agree with

In post 279, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Emperor what do you think about Datisi’s twin brother claiming they disagree on Datisi’s take on me?

Dunno, I'll ask

@Retti: Why do you disagree with Datisi?

In post 281, Green Cap Boys wrote:something rings wrong to me about emperor making a huge wallpost about me/norwee interaction, but only a tiny section of it is dedicated for why he found me scummy. i'd ask why is he that sure that that's me spinning things scummy as opposed to me seeing something and calling it out, but something tells me that won't be a productive discussion? iunno.

actually sure - why do you think it makes me scum as opposed to someone who saw it differently than you?

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I'm not sure, if I was sure, I'd have dedicated more to explaining why you were scummy. You're a scumlean

I'm unsure if you're town who just sees it differently to me since I know you specifically have experience with Norwegian, I saw it as a standard town Norwegian reaction, or nai at worst. The reasoning you gave isn't even bad in a vacuum, I'd actually agree with it if it was being used on a secret alt for example, but the fact it lands on our dear Norwegian Boy is what sends me shivers

In post 285, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Because it feels townie...? It's not like i analyzed your posts, it just feels to me like a typical townie response.
I don't know why i didn't feel the same in Smuggler port because it's way too long ago but it probably wasn't the same if my conclusion is different here.

Scum can feel frustration and anger

You need to look at what's causing the frustration and whether it's something town specifically would feel or whether scum could as well

In post 286, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Generally speaking, angry "OMG MISREPPED MY POSTS U SCUUUUMMMMM" usually come from town you know.
You probably didn't react that way in Smuggler port or you did it in an much more relaxed and malicious manner.

Eh maybe on average, there are more town than scum in games though which might cause some confirming biasing

In post 290, Bingle wrote:

In post 275, The Emperor wrote:So the meta read here is that scum Bingle doesn't really joke around about mech early game, while he almost always does as town from what I've seen

Contextually bad read, but probably a genuine one given the nuance. If you want to compare that game to a similar towngame of mine, you should look at the lovers and losers reset.

Why would I consider mech analysis from ta Vera as AI when mech analysis is explicitly not AI?

I see

Mech analysis isn't AI, but it can be towny if it's useful, which I thought ta vera's one was

Does that or her push on I factor into your read at all?

Does Flea The Magician have an alignment preference?

how ironic would it be if i now said "i get the feeling the emperor has an agenda of stopping people form townreading me"?

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eeeeh. not sure i actually believe it though.

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