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In post 2676, Lord Mhork wrote:So I'm starting to get this scum read on KingdomAces. Anyone else feeling that?

yes pls

In post 2708, Garuda wrote:I'm heading out to dinner so I'll be back in a couple of hours

Empire talking about food is usually a towntell.

In post 2717, pieguyn wrote:ugh, hardly anything recently has pinged for me. I don't think ProHawk v. Voided is town v town. it's mostly gut and I don't have a specific explanation, but something about that interaction feels terribly off.

was going to support the Voided wagon, see PV voted Seanald. ok that works too

ugh

In post 2722, Seanald wrote:Also no seriously has an opinion on how I can somehow use coroner to confirm mhork?

Do people still seriously think he's lying about contacting Pyro?

In post 2737, Seanald wrote:

In post 2697, PeregrineV wrote:

In post 2667, Seanald wrote:Also, I've been tossing it around my head for a bit now and I realized I have no idea how to use it, but I have coroner and want to use it somehow. I suppose we can use that to help confirm mhork?

It's almost like salting a wound, but if this is the case, why did you

ADVERTISE

it and then

BID

on it?

cuz it sounded cool, i knew no one really wanted it, and could easily get it. thats why I bid on it. I did not how ever, advertise on it.

In post 672, Seanald wrote:Also what the hell, I advertised for austerity measures.

Post coming later this evening. But right now, I'm doubting basically all my suspicions.

In post 2710, KingdomAces wrote:PV, I just remembered that you were in MattP's Large Normal as well, so you should know that I'm completely useless even when I am caught up to the game.

Anyway, reading Nero now.

In post 2711, KingdomAces wrote:D1 Nero spent the entire time calling Hana scum for sheeping Nacho. I agree that she shouldn't have been doing that but it was pointed out several times by several people that it was completely null, yet he continued to press it. The other points (contradicting themselves, saying that Eagle is good enough to fake a townslip as scum.) were just as weak, since self-contradiction is only an indication that someone isn't sure of something, and... I just don't understand how the latter is scummy at all. D2, the entire day for him was arguing that Mhork didn't make him appear. Honestly, that entire thing was ridiculous, as well as completely null and I don't know why anyone let it continue as long as it did.

Doing D3 later. From the first two days though, it seemed like all he ever did was pressure people for doing things that were wrong, even though they weren't actually scummy. That's the easiest way to fake content as scum, and the fact that he hasn't really done all that much else on those days makes me lean scum on him. I'll finish this tomorrow.

I'm convinced.

Upside, you said I was just copying everyone else's reads on you. I have a null-scum read on you. Therefore you said that everyone else has a null-scum read on you.

Morph, reasoning would be nice.

In post 2594, Ghostlin wrote:

In post 2553, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 2515, zMuffinMan wrote:which stuff?

i've played with nero a few times before (a couple years back) but it has nothing to do with why i think he's scum here.

LIAR SCUM FOUND!!!

vote:Muffin

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=29987

Its rather ironic that in that game Monkeyscum got lynched for pretending to have not played with me and now Muffinscum is getting lynched for lying about not having played with me recently.

Vote: Nero Cain

Here's the reason: I don't necessarily remember my scum/town games, how I fucking played, etic. This is treated as a scum slip, which is just fucking terrible but not usually scummy, but Nero's using it for the lynchpin to attempt a lynch here. Consider, for a minute the sum total of actual scum hunting he's done this game--if his questions really were fucking serious, he could of come up with a case or something this game except: 'muffin lied because he said he wasn't in a game recently, but I found a game where he was..'

It's flimsy. And considering Nero Cain's been around a bit, one would expect he'd try a tact that, oh, I don't fucking know, did something.

He never made the argument that he forgot so why do you think he forgot?

In post 2598, Garuda wrote:

In post 2459, Nero Cain wrote:Followed the plan; rolled 3.

What's the amount of money you sent?
110ish.

Why is this important?

Today is my last doc appointment so I'll finish catching up when I get home.

In post 2754, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:

In post 2737, Seanald wrote:

In post 2697, PeregrineV wrote:

In post 2667, Seanald wrote:Also, I've been tossing it around my head for a bit now and I realized I have no idea how to use it, but I have coroner and want to use it somehow. I suppose we can use that to help confirm mhork?

It's almost like salting a wound, but if this is the case, why did you

ADVERTISE

it and then

BID

on it?

cuz it sounded cool, i knew no one really wanted it, and could easily get it. thats why I bid on it. I did not how ever, advertise on it.

In post 672, Seanald wrote:Also what the hell, I advertised for austerity measures.

holy wow

Coroner=/=Austerity Measures? If you actually have a question, then you should ask it.

In post 1678, Lost Butterfly wrote:

In post 1653, ProHawk wrote:

In post 1645, Lost Butterfly wrote:I guess there's one way to answer that: upside down and ProHawk, how much did you advertise Cop and Gravedigger for?

$15 for Gravedigger
$30 for Doc

Morph, I really need that Meta-Dive from you soon.

You advertised Doctor when Doctor was already up for auction?

Also, that's annoying. None of Banakai's actions are 100% confirmed now (since he claimed Commuter after it had already shown up). Agree with Garuda that the spread of abilities looks townish, though.

Also also, sorry, Harakiri (not that another neighbourizer advertisement claim changes things at this point). I can't do the same thing with the N1 advertisements until we see what abilities show up on N2.

@Lost- Would like to see your N1 advertisements conclusions since we saw the abilities that showed up n2.

Also, your scumlist please.

In post 2759, PeregrineV wrote:

In post 2754, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:

In post 2737, Seanald wrote:

In post 2697, PeregrineV wrote:

In post 2667, Seanald wrote:Also, I've been tossing it around my head for a bit now and I realized I have no idea how to use it, but I have coroner and want to use it somehow. I suppose we can use that to help confirm mhork?

It's almost like salting a wound, but if this is the case, why did you

ADVERTISE

it and then

BID

on it?

cuz it sounded cool, i knew no one really wanted it, and could easily get it. thats why I bid on it. I did not how ever, advertise on it.

In post 672, Seanald wrote:Also what the hell, I advertised for austerity measures.

upside down or peregrine please explain what you're seeing in this.

In post 2754, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:

In post 2737, Seanald wrote:

In post 2697, PeregrineV wrote:

In post 2667, Seanald wrote:Also, I've been tossing it around my head for a bit now and I realized I have no idea how to use it, but I have coroner and want to use it somehow. I suppose we can use that to help confirm mhork?

It's almost like salting a wound, but if this is the case, why did you

ADVERTISE

it and then

BID

on it?

cuz it sounded cool, i knew no one really wanted it, and could easily get it. thats why I bid on it. I did not how ever, advertise on it.

In post 672, Seanald wrote:Also what the hell, I advertised for austerity measures.

That was about coroner you idiot, man your so damn scum it's painful

I have Tammy reads that I will post soon

In post 2763, morph the cat wrote:

In post 2759, PeregrineV wrote:

In post 2754, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:

In post 2737, Seanald wrote:

In post 2697, PeregrineV wrote:

In post 2667, Seanald wrote:Also, I've been tossing it around my head for a bit now and I realized I have no idea how to use it, but I have coroner and want to use it somehow. I suppose we can use that to help confirm mhork?

It's almost like salting a wound, but if this is the case, why did you

ADVERTISE

it and then

BID

on it?

cuz it sounded cool, i knew no one really wanted it, and could easily get it. thats why I bid on it. I did not how ever, advertise on it.

In post 672, Seanald wrote:Also what the hell, I advertised for austerity measures.

upside down or peregrine please explain what you're seeing in this.

I thought this was Seanald's answer to 2696, but it seems from 2764 that Senald was referring to the coroner ability in 2667 and 2737.

In post 2765, Lord Mhork wrote:I have Tammy reads that I will post soon

You should post Lord Mhork reads too. Would like your Scumpick 6 for the record.

In post 2756, morph the cat wrote:

In post 2710, KingdomAces wrote:PV, I just remembered that you were in MattP's Large Normal as well, so you should know that I'm completely useless even when I am caught up to the game.

Anyway, reading Nero now.

In post 2711, KingdomAces wrote:D1 Nero spent the entire time calling Hana scum for sheeping Nacho. I agree that she shouldn't have been doing that but it was pointed out several times by several people that it was completely null, yet he continued to press it. The other points (contradicting themselves, saying that Eagle is good enough to fake a townslip as scum.) were just as weak, since self-contradiction is only an indication that someone isn't sure of something, and... I just don't understand how the latter is scummy at all. D2, the entire day for him was arguing that Mhork didn't make him appear. Honestly, that entire thing was ridiculous, as well as completely null and I don't know why anyone let it continue as long as it did.

Doing D3 later. From the first two days though, it seemed like all he ever did was pressure people for doing things that were wrong, even though they weren't actually scummy. That's the easiest way to fake content as scum, and the fact that he hasn't really done all that much else on those days makes me lean scum on him. I'll finish this tomorrow.

I'm convinced.

UNVOTE

VOTE: KingdomAces

\o/

Tammy decided to frame it in response to Morph's read lists for interaction purposes:

Town?
PeregrineV: She has all the paranoia regarding Peregrine. She doesn't like how he made two neighbor QTs. She doesn't like how he was determined town and didn't need to out his neighbors. She's afraid that he can just go after people on behalf of 'a neighbor' and get no flak for it. She especially thinks it's dangerous to just write PV off as town especially since his lurky personality is easy to replicate as scum. She doesn't like how this game makes transparency important and how he could be judged for his neighbor actions, and yet is being ignored. It bothers her.

Lost Butterfly: Should not be overlooked. She's afraid that Mina can fake paranoia as scum. The only town thing Tammy really saw was the advertisement stuff, and it immensely bothers her that Mina isn't scumhunting which she would expect town or scum from her. She thinks it's very possible that Mina is just coasting by on an easy town read. It looks super meh and passive.

Mhork: She says she'll talk about this after I give her reads

Garuda: Very probably town

Leaning Town?
Pieguy: While his catchup post looked townie, that's fakable as scum. She thinks he's capable of doing that as scum.

Molla: She says Molla comes across as fake and buddyish as scum and that early on he looked like he was buddying Nacho. However recently he's started to look more like a disengaged townie. His lack of making up reads looks like it can lean townish. She says you might be able to better read him if you run him up, but she doesn't know what to look for. Basically he's best caught by PoE.

muffin: She likes muffin, though hears he's a good scum. Her paranoia says that if there are any scums in her townreads, it's probably here. She liked him when she was alive and still likes him. She also talks about a town game she remembers that got eaten so she can't compare.

Mehs
Nero: While he's scummy and OMGUSish and abrasive and stuff, she thinks this looks more like his town game. She is, however, all over the place here. She says that the only time he was this jerky with regard to her was when he was town. She then recalls a time when he was slacking and she called him out for it and he got apologetic and said that he would do it. She thought his response this time was just weird for scum. However she thinks that he should go before LyLo because, if he's town, he'd be an easy mislynch.

Seanald: Can go either way. The austerity measures thing sucks. If he flips scum, she'll feel better about a PV town read. She's only seen Seanald once as town and he did even less, she said, and was a bit trollish. She thinks he'd be a good lynch.

Ghostlin: Keeps forgetting he's in the game. Lack of dynamism bothers her a lot.

Harakiri: Only real townish thing is that they were assertive about their not following the plan, but she feels very either/or for them.

Upside: She isn't a fan, but doesn't know how much is just him sorta trolling the game. She really doesn't like how she got totally misrepped on the neighborizer thing and stuff. She also thought it was unnecessary for N to point out they thought Hermy was scum day one, which she really doesn't like. \\

baldeagle: Could go either way. Different player than in Hard Boiled or Empking's U-Pick. Thinks he looks aggressive, but still feels off in tone.

Leaning scum!
Prohawk: She still likes him, even though it's mostly gut. Syryana wants to see more from him though

KingdomAces: she feels meh. She sees some genuine bits in there

JacobSavage: can't read him. Can't read Klick in so few posts. He's low hanging fruit, but can definitely be that for a reason.

Scumzzzzzzz
Voided: Syryana hold him as really strong town. She thinks he's becoming a distraction, though, and should be sorted soon.


She wants it clear that the coroner checks someone who has DIED and wants to know what Seanald is smoking

She thinks anyone who still questions whether I am talking to her should get their heads checked out

She also doesn't like Sakura's or pieguy's recent posting.

In post 2769, Lord Mhork wrote:She says you might be able to better read him if you run him up

Yeah that's true.

I could still lynch Voided

I'll take our lack of inclusion there to mean she's townreading us.

@Mhork

Syr has Voided as strong town, but I don't understand what Tammy's read is.

How does Syr feel about PeregrineV? He had a strong (and correct) town read on Pere in Death's Diner.

In post 2600, zMuffinMan wrote:iirc, 1395 was more a snide retaliation to whichever nero post before that he said something about me and 1531 wasn't a meta-based assessment. i rarely make meta-based assessments in that manner.

This is a huge load of bullshit btw.

In post 2610, Voidedmafia wrote:

In post 2607, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:Your posts are fucking full of little bullshit responses like these. You're just stirring shit and making your posts fucking unreadable. I see no town motivation in taking something like 2549 out of context and asking a stupid inane question. Nero had quoted what he was talking about in the post you quoted. He was saying that he didn't believe you actually started the wagon, a point which you had just fucking replied to in this same comment.

Explain how I took 2549 out of context. I admitted I had my placement on the wagon wrong (I completely forgot there were two votes on him before I voted), but the LB alt comment took me aback, hence why I asked. I don't see how this is a problem?

ah hell naw.

I don't buy your "well I forgot I was the third vote" explanation at all. This totes contradicts

In post 2580, Voidedmafia wrote:Okay, "started" wasn't the right word to use. But I was the 3rd vote, so I did pretty much make it a wagon at that point.

Here it sounds like you were plenty aware where your vote was.




this dies today.