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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:04 pm
by RachMarie
I just read Saki's ISO WHY are people town reading him? :facepalm:


VOTE: Saki

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:09 pm
by ZZZX
THere is a Saki?!

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:25 pm
by RachMarie
30 posts worth of Saki basically like his last one which was


hihi

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:54 pm
by TiphaineDeath
It's not that I am townreading him, it's that I don't like lynching lurkers :/.

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:00 pm
by RachMarie
lurking is one thing but he pops on just often enough to try to avoid being prodded and does NO content.

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:18 pm
by Jordan_Downey
RachMarie wrote:lurking is one thing but he pops on just often enough to try to avoid being prodded and does NO content.


Now I know you have stuff going on. But I also don't like lurk Rach so are you the kettle or the pot?

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:44 pm
by Perpetual Nonsense
Hi

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:29 pm
by EddieFenix
Thor665 wrote: But I'd love to hear the scum case.


As would I. It would give me really good popcorn eating material.

RachMarie wrote:I just read Saki's ISO WHY are people town reading him? :facepalm:


VOTE: Saki


So, let's get a wagon going to get them in here instead of hihi, prod dodge, swerve style thing going on...?

Vote Saki


Also, Doublade, if your vote is still on Thor, GTFO that shit.

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:53 pm
by Bulbazak
Field Polarity:
Dark


Vote CountDoublade (1): Titus
Saki (2): RachMarie, Eddie Fenix
ZZZX (4): Thor665, Dry-fit, Jon_h61, Xayzeck
PeregrineV (0):
Eddie Fenix (0):
TiphaineDeath (0):
Sharpest-knife-on-tree (0):
Dry-fit (1): Saki
Malakittens (0):
Perpetual Nonsense (0):
Thor665 (2): The Necromancers, Doublade
Jon_h61 (0):
Xayzeck (1): ZZZX
The Necromancers (1): PeregrineV
Titus (3): Sharpest-knife-on-tree, TiphaineDeath, Malakittens
Jordan_Downey (0):
RachMarie (0):

Not Voting (2): Perepetual Nonsense, Jordan_Downey

It is day 3. With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch. Day ends on Thursday, July 24 at 12:00pm EST. Countdown: (expired on 2014-07-24 12:00:00).

Titus is V/LA until Thursday, July 17.

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:56 pm
by ZZZX
a Saki wagon if fine if it will push himt o post.

Vote Saki

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:45 am
by Xayzeck
why are we derailing

and switching to a saki wagon

why

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:24 am
by ZZZX
Xayzeck wrote:why are we derailing

and switching to a saki wagon

why

Because the ZZZX wagon is dumb and made of scum.

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:39 am
by jon_h61
@ Xayzeck What's wrong with a Saki wagon? Has he done anything you think is particularly Town? If his wagon grows enough that it looks like it'll go through, I'd be willing to help push it through.
IF
none of my scum reads look to be strung up.

@ ZZZX I'm going to assume you don't particularly care if I scum read you. You haven't done much to shake my belief that you're scum. I know you're tired of the reads list question, so, how about you just give us your top two scum reads, with reasons. For clarities' sake, you say everyone is scum reading you because you didn't make the promised read list. That's simplifying the issue and ignoring the main points
I'm
seeing that makes me think you're scum.

May I engage in a little setup speculation? In my role PM it does say, until all anti-Town factions. With two NKs last Night, that tells me there's at least one scum team, duh, with a possibility of a SK, Vig, or another scum team. The bad thing is, we have to start hitting
any
scum before we get any facts toward my speculation. My main worry is, how long do we have (in Days) before we have to start worrying about LYLO? If it's one big scum team, say of five or six slots, we may only have a Day or two before we enter the danger zone!

@ Titus Still ongoing with the Doublade read. The reason it's taking so long is because Marquis has been right on flips so far, and I find myself agreeing with a lot of her posts. What, beside wanting Bulba to hurry up and close the thread, should I be looking for?

Deb is pushing toward the door, she wants fish for dinner tonight, and some crappie does sound good! If we catch enough, I'll invite you all over for a fish fry. Wish me luck!!! :D

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:41 am
by jon_h61
EBWOP is pushing "me" toward the door, and rather forcefully too!

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:18 am
by TiphaineDeath
But Isn't lynching lurkers basically as effective as random lynching? Don't get me wrong, if we had a site wide crusade to kill every lurker in every game forever I would be perfectly happy. But since we can't discourage this type of behavior on a grand scale what use is doing it in one game?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:09 am
by Titus
@Jon, it's easy to be right when you know the answers. In general, right or wrong is only a tell for certain players. Look at the strength of logic and the degree to which someone pursues their conviction. If you throw a dart board, you're likely to get most townreads right. Has anyone been proven right on a scumread? Nope.

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:22 am
by Sharpest-knife-on-tree
I could go Saki but really wish we would go Titus... the titus problem needs to be dealt with

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:33 am
by ZZZX
jon_h61 wrote:@ Xayzeck What's wrong with a Saki wagon? Has he done anything you think is particularly Town? If his wagon grows enough that it looks like it'll go through, I'd be willing to help push it through.
IF
none of my scum reads look to be strung up.

@ ZZZX I'm going to assume you don't particularly care if I scum read you. You haven't done much to shake my belief that you're scum. I know you're tired of the reads list question, so, how about you just give us your top two scum reads, with reasons. For clarities' sake, you say everyone is scum reading you because you didn't make the promised read list. That's simplifying the issue and ignoring the main points
I'm
seeing that makes me think you're scum.

May I engage in a little setup speculation? In my role PM it does say, until all anti-Town factions. With two NKs last Night, that tells me there's at least one scum team, duh, with a possibility of a SK, Vig, or another scum team. The bad thing is, we have to start hitting
any
scum before we get any facts toward my speculation. My main worry is, how long do we have (in Days) before we have to start worrying about LYLO? If it's one big scum team, say of five or six slots, we may only have a Day or two before we enter the danger zone!

@ Titus Still ongoing with the Doublade read. The reason it's taking so long is because Marquis has been right on flips so far, and I find myself agreeing with a lot of her posts. What, beside wanting Bulba to hurry up and close the thread, should I be looking for?

Deb is pushing toward the door, she wants fish for dinner tonight, and some crappie does sound good! If we catch enough, I'll invite you all over for a fish fry. Wish me luck!!! :D

You asked me questions and I answered them. I am still not seeing your reason for scum-reading me.

Can you lay it out in a nice simple way that I can understand?

Anyway let me give you the general things I am sure of

doblade is marquis. prob town.
Xay is leaning scum even thou I saw him do weird plays as town but I am not so sure of how forced it is this game
Saki is... saki which makes it impossible to read him. -Best lynch for today
Skot feels town
idk about you
titus... I cant read titus even if I sticked my nose to my screen for eternity
PV is... surprisingly quiet
PN is... playing weirdish
RachMarie feels like Micro 333 Rach

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:52 am
by Malakittens
Yeah PN made me think town originally but it has gone away.

Micro 333 Rach = which Rach?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:06 pm
by ZZZX
Town

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:50 pm
by Thor665
jon_h61 wrote:@ Thor
Why
did you delete that line? It had to be purposely done. I'm baffled.

I trim quotes to hopefully spare people walls and also to make it very clear what I'm responding to.
As Doublade just noted in his weird attack post - I also went in and edited a quote in a quote to remove the hydraleak line - which I also perceived as not applying to what I was responding to.
I took the line starting with 'Thor' as the response to me (just whining that I was calling him dumb) and perceived the above line as a comment long the lines of 'oh, that thing we were talking about?' rather than 'that thing we were talking about - yes I agree with you' and thus trimmed it.

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:51 pm
by Thor665
And why are we even asking 'why do you trim lines'?

I mean...what other answer than 'to shorten/clean up' is ever going to be offered?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:46 pm
by Dry-fit
ZZZX's list of problems with wagons just looks like stuff to make him feel better about his play. The Thor stuff is a non-issue although my townread on him isn't particularly strong a the moment.

Of course a Saki wagon starts up just after ZZZX makes his terrible defense. I'm torn.

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:07 pm
by RachMarie
Well I do understand that due to issues I appear to be lurking, but at least I am posting some content. If you look at Saki's ISO, you will find he has no content at all. It looks like active lurking, and though he can be hard to read at times, he is usually not this lacking in the content department.

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:49 pm
by Bulbazak
Bump.