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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:09 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2726, Maid Cafe wrote:
In post 2724, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2718, Maid Cafe wrote:SD isn't town reading me this game lmao and I've been calling them town for awhile.

~B
What does this have to do with anything?
It was a response to the last post made by a person who wasn't me.

~B
Why did you feel the need to post it?

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:09 am
by Purple Heart
:facepalm:

~ Taly

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:09 am
by Bronya Zaychik
In post 2745, OnTheMark wrote:3rd is also wrong I was counterclaiming the idea the hood was all town and there was a scum in it. It wasn’t a counterclaim of Mastina.
In post 2746, OnTheMark wrote:And on point 6 I haven’t done a read wall in multiple theme games. Lolz.
In post 2747, OnTheMark wrote:The games I am more successful on is when I don’t read wall lol.

Like legit turbos and mashes

Got like 8 in a row on a mash and both scum in a turbo.
3) Same difference. Having "confirmed" scum in a pool doesn't usually cause unvotes.

6) I'd be more apt to buy your complaint if you didn't act confused and said that at the outset. Like I know you're just going to have excuse after excuse and dart out theories where town are scum. I have given up there.

What is your read on Iconeum and how did it evolve?

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:10 am
by baku and munna
Iconeum
OnTheMark
Shining Dreamers (Hydra: Yume & Mastina) - potential scum. principally bc i didn't like mastina's early pushes and yume's reaction to pressure here reminds me of anything upick
Chara - idk why i feel like this slot is scum but i do. i def see a world where they fakeclaim miller.
Baku and Munna (Hydra: Randomidget & Shiro) - lit af
Maid Cafe (Hydra: Maki & Beeboy) - strong townread, came down hard on beeboy's posting early and maki has been obvtown as fuck
Creature - creature is a player i never rly get a read on early
Bronya Zaychik (Hydra: Titus & Kiana Kaslana) - titus is a player i always scumread, but kiana hasn't been particularly townie tbh. null overall.
Almost50 - would need to reread
Reasonably Rational (Hydra: Cerberus v666 & Drixx) - p sure this is town cerb. i've been burned before but i think im right on this one
SnarkySnowman no ideea what they've posted but i dont believe the lie detector claim
Gamma Emerald - my first thought about this slot was "they were alright?" didnt have awful posting but nothing particularly inspiring
Purple Heart (Hydra: Alisae & Taly) - liked taly, alisae seems solid - need to review this slot
Skybird - stand by my opinion of them being lynchbait tho
Nancy Drew 39 - micc made 0 impression on me
Venmar - i tend to tr shitposting when only one person is doing it, and since then, although i haven't agreed with all their points they seem to genuinely believe them
Dunnstral - would defer to a townreda with reliable meta on them.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:11 am
by Bronya Zaychik
In post 2744, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 2743, Bronya Zaychik wrote:
In post 2707, Purple Heart wrote:Titus be honest with me.
Are you trying to PL math?
I'm not sure. Their behavior seems erratic, even for them.

1) At the start, they couldn't stay on a wagon for very long. For instance, they were really excited about working with me on Iconeum but then just vamoosed on it and TRed them.

2) They seemed rather against people using powers today. This once could be vanity though as they tend to push back on those with more control.

3) The "counterclaim" on Mastina coinciding with an unvote.

4) The wanting to tie either the White Creature God of voting to Skybird and Iconeum. I can't see protown motivation there.

5) The repeated assertion that they are powerless.

6) The refusal to do a readwall and acting like it's complicated.

I'd want to sort them as they leave me uneasy.

~Titus
The 4th point was me, not math, and the motivation is fairly simple to understand given that I stated my belief that the owner of these creatures is likely town.

-Cerb
*shakes head* No. You weren't trying to create doubt and paranoia to search after power roles rather than hunt scum.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:12 am
by Bronya Zaychik
Where's my cookie? Get Shiro here.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:16 am
by Reasonably Rational
In post 2754, Bronya Zaychik wrote:
In post 2744, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 2743, Bronya Zaychik wrote:
In post 2707, Purple Heart wrote:Titus be honest with me.
Are you trying to PL math?
I'm not sure. Their behavior seems erratic, even for them.

1) At the start, they couldn't stay on a wagon for very long. For instance, they were really excited about working with me on Iconeum but then just vamoosed on it and TRed them.

2) They seemed rather against people using powers today. This once could be vanity though as they tend to push back on those with more control.

3) The "counterclaim" on Mastina coinciding with an unvote.

4) The wanting to tie either the White Creature God of voting to Skybird and Iconeum. I can't see protown motivation there.

5) The repeated assertion that they are powerless.

6) The refusal to do a readwall and acting like it's complicated.

I'd want to sort them as they leave me uneasy.

~Titus
The 4th point was me, not math, and the motivation is fairly simple to understand given that I stated my belief that the owner of these creatures is likely town.

-Cerb
*shakes head* No. You weren't trying to create doubt and paranoia to search after power roles rather than hunt scum.
Eh.

I was definitely deliberately trying to create paranoia about someone controlling so many votes, though I did counteract that by noting that I'm pretty sure those votes are controlled by a town slot. :)

-Cerb

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:18 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2739, Maid Cafe wrote:Ok to put my read really simply because I like to lie to myself and say I am studying while I procrastinate. And I am stupidly lazy atm.

Compare how Gamma plays in the average town game to his play here. Gamma is typically a super open player like Creature levels of open and it's just super apparent when you read his town games when nothing he posts makes sense because its all just his raw thoughts and it's just generally obvious town. And it's not like Gamma is at Mark's level where he can emulate that as either alignment.
Just generally i think his average town thought processes aren't really present and it feels a lot more like a player going through motions then anything else. Like his most recent post really just read as scum posting for the sake of it and I can pull up other posts but that is just the trend I get while reading his posts.

Like I feel like if you just read his ISO it's just really obvious there is just a closed nature to his posts that really is never there when he is town.
Sorry if this is poorly explained but that's generally why I think he is scum.

~B
I don't really know how to counter this but to say I don't agree at all that I'm not doing this?

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:21 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2748, Purple Heart wrote:

I don't interpret
Shining Dreamers'
reaction to the game as flailing, I think
Mastina's
posted recently and I'm going to engage her on that, but what's the point in a townblock if the reads are faked?

@Shining Dreamers

1)
If one of your heads is having a rough time, then don't push yourself. Come back with a clear mind and read up to date before posting.
2)
Elaborate on how mine and MC's claim is not considered town, and how SS' is?
((Just reread and noticed that, I'm invested in SS now.))


Neither of them interacted at all with the wagon, so nothing has really changed much with my opinion there.

I like from
Almost50
; he's literally asking to be investigated which makes me think he's been genuine in the first place.

@Titus

The
Taly
head (me) has halted on trying to sort
OnTheMark
at the moment, my gut tells me he's very much town but I can't be certain until flips are veiled. I also haven't gotten much, if any, useful info. by pointing him to my posts... I feel like my misunderstanding with him is Town-Town, since I think him pushing for many different theories is playstyle, which is at worst NAI, or towny.

I'm not yet sold on a wagon with him unless my other scum/null reads become more/less confident.
Can you link where his "counterclaim"?
In post 2532, Gamma Emerald wrote:What the shit? When did I become the hot topic?
You have voteparked on
Iconeum
for 100 pages and have done nothing else notable. Tell me why I'm wrong.
In post 2545, Varsoon wrote:
I'm having fun.
That said, large games can be a huge undertaking and this one already has 100+ pages, so just keeping up with all of it on top of the mechanics I tend to put into a game can be overwhelming.
I want you all to know that I appreciate your dedication to the game. I know staying up to date with a game like this one can be difficult, so thanks for sticking with it.
I'm happy to be playing this game :D It's very interesting and I've never been in a game as complex as this. I'd happily join some more games you'd mod in the future
Varsoon
. Also, you're doing a very good job staying on top of everything given the circumstances!

Can't say the same about my gamplay right now, though. X_x

~ Taly
I only voted Iconeum halfway through, and I haven't seen a reason to leave

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:23 am
by baku and munna
In post 2745, OnTheMark wrote:3rd is also wrong I was counterclaiming the idea the hood was all town and there was a scum in it. It wasn’t a counterclaim of Mastina.
who acc claimed it was all town?

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:26 am
by OnTheMark
In post 2759, baku and munna wrote:
In post 2745, OnTheMark wrote:3rd is also wrong I was counterclaiming the idea the hood was all town and there was a scum in it. It wasn’t a counterclaim of Mastina.
who acc claimed it was all town?
People refusing to make the lynch a player in the hood.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:33 am
by Bronya Zaychik
In post 2760, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 2759, baku and munna wrote:
In post 2745, OnTheMark wrote:3rd is also wrong I was counterclaiming the idea the hood was all town and there was a scum in it. It wasn’t a counterclaim of Mastina.
who acc claimed it was all town?
People refusing to make the lynch a player in the hood.
No. That's not true either. That's a false dichtomy. There's no guarantee of any scum being there and even if there was scum can throw their resources towards defending that slot. Play it like Clue. Just because no one passes does not mean there must be a murder in the cards.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:48 am
by Purple Heart
In post 2758, Gamma Emerald wrote: I only voted Iconeum halfway through, and I haven't seen a reason to leave
.____.


I starting to see what
Maid Cafe
and
Alisae
saw in the fact that you're being pretty vague and not open much at all.

Why haven't you replied to
Iconeum
? He's posted multiple times and you haven't engaged. I highly doubt, with 16 players other than yourself, and with this much to read in the game; that's your only scumread, or the only person worth pushing.

- You also don't have anything to say about the read on you? I get that it's partially meta-based, but this gives me the impression that you're pretty alright with a wagon on you, which strikes me as anti-town.

Also, I don't understand your
Micc
read progression through ISO.
The first mention I see, looking at your ISO, is that you townread
Micc
- And I'm not seeing a post where you talked to him prior to this, so can you link one?

You say he needs review not long after in
- you ask questions on a townread of his.
- you say his reads are convenient, but haven't really stated why.
- I can only assume this is you stating your dislike for a post that was 700 posts earlier, and you're speaking about it now when
Micc's
not really in the game at this point.

Your "look" onto him seems fruitless, and your other posts so far hasn't really added much of anything.

~~~

Can someone tell me how
baku and munna
is supposedly in a hood again? Like, are there 2 hoods or is someone throwing shit around? -_-

Also
OnTheMark
, I'm a player. Nice to see you.

~ Taly

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:55 am
by baku and munna
IM NOT IT A HOOD

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:56 am
by baku and munna
In post 2761, Bronya Zaychik wrote:
In post 2760, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 2759, baku and munna wrote:
In post 2745, OnTheMark wrote:3rd is also wrong I was counterclaiming the idea the hood was all town and there was a scum in it. It wasn’t a counterclaim of Mastina.
who acc claimed it was all town?
People refusing to make the lynch a player in the hood.
No. That's not true either. That's a false dichtomy. There's no guarantee of any scum being there and even if there was scum can throw their resources towards defending that slot. Play it like Clue. Just because no one passes does not mean there must be a murder in the cards.
^this is what i was geting at
saying we shouldnt assume there is scum in the hood =/= the hood is all town

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:37 am
by Nancy Drew 39
Hi everyone.

K,I know I’m 100 pages in but would anyone be so kind as to give me the cribb notes? Please help a new sub out; tia.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:40 am
by Nancy Drew 39
And when does D1 end?

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:41 am
by Purple Heart
In post 2765, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Hi everyone.

K,I know I’m 100 pages in but would anyone be so kind as to give me the cribb notes? Please help a new sub out; tia.
Ye you steal mana from people and you give people creatures
can you confirm this?

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:46 am
by Almost50
In post 2611, SnarkySnowman wrote:A50 that's a bad lie detect for so many reasons.... Like it's a silly thing to lie about and doesn't mean a lot to me.....
However, it seems there are a couple of people who think otherwise. Like, I don't want to
tell
you what to do with your role, but I'm legit pissed at Ali for coming up with this shit.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:47 am
by Almost50
@Sky: Can you please refresh my memory as to whether we played together in any other game than SU2?

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:48 am
by Purple Heart
a50 I don't care anymore :/

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:07 am
by Bronya Zaychik
I just want it used. Let's just get on with it.

The only thing I got left is getting Mark to comment on Iconeum.

Then I'll converge with my hydra partner.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:08 am
by Purple Heart
Is it just me or is nancy dissapearing wolfy?

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:16 am
by Bronya Zaychik
In post 2772, Purple Heart wrote:Is it just me or is nancy dissapearing wolfy?
I don't see nancy disappearing as wolfy as it's been a few minutes.... that's a bit stretch.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:22 am
by Purple Heart
Its been 40mins.
Taly is telling me the same thing tbh :/