Orfhz seems fine, why are people scum reading them?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:23 am
by Wh4t
NK15 seems fine too, never seen a wolf dictate game rules for town to follow at SOD.
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:51 am
by Ankamius
I'll have time then, hold tight a few hours
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:46 pm
by Blind Bandits
aight
ill wait for ank
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:49 pm
by mutantdevle
I think that’s a bad idea - unless you can promise you’ll be hear to lynch.
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:54 pm
by Ankamius
In the meantime, did anyone answer why Invisibility is on the block? I see the recent stuff but I want to know the before stuff too
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:20 pm
by Blind Bandits
In post 2754, mutantdevle wrote:I think that’s a bad idea - unless you can promise you’ll be hear to lynch.
ill lynch nk15 before i go to bed
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:34 pm
by Not Known 15
In post 2755, Ankamius wrote:In the meantime, did anyone answer why Invisibility is on the block? I see the recent stuff but I want to know the before stuff too
Because they weren't on the block before, for no reason? And they have an inflated post count but most of their posts are baseless shading. Also wanted to get skitter president - really?
And I just read this:
In post 2652, Invisibility wrote:does that make it more people that want nk15 lynch than invisbilaity lynch
Does this come from town? I doubt it.
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:18 pm
by skitter30
In post 2680, Invisibility wrote:why would I claim earlier
I actually didn’t see the part in the bb telling me to claim
I thought it was only mutant who has gone mad
and if you’re like going along with this plan then my shoe world is a lie
uh ur a vt claim and have been in the lynchpool for most of the day, why would u not claim?
like i don't get the motivation for not claiming here; it's kinda scummy of you not to do so when you've been asked multiple tiems
In post 2727, Wh4t wrote:Who is the current president? Was there any shenanigans with the voting over night?
bb is
voting participation is god-awful so i think 4/5 districts were tied and bb is a pr who can decide tied districts and they used that to make themselves president
they're prob town on role tho because scum having that ability seems rather scum-sided given that scum can make the districts in the first place
also if they were scum i feel like they would have just used the ability to mislynch someone already instead of trying to promote democratic procedures like they are rn
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In post 2727, Wh4t wrote:Tin foil hot take: Hebi and NK15 are working together to make the role claim feasible and Hebi appear townie. So NK double voting to prevent the tiebreaker could've been an excuse for Hebi's "role" to remain out of reach and unable to help town, whilst Hebi gets towncred for wanting to help.
i think this is a stupid read, no offense, especially since i'm pretty sure hebi had the oppurtunity to try for a second district by double-voting i think yesterday if she had wanted to but didn't; i think she's been acting in good faith tbh
she was in a tied district day2
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In post 2735, Blind Bandits wrote:i havw always thought Wraith/Psyche slot is scum and has done nothing town
i think a fair part of that is that the slot's been lurking for like a month now; wh4t seems to be trying to like actually pay the game tho
In post 2744, mutantdevle wrote:I mean, they defended you too. Just they did it entirely with words.
Yeah but they were not entirely relying on meta there.
how much have you played with ofrhz? like why do u think it's scummy of them to use meta to defend someone?
In post 2746, Not Known 15 wrote:Meta out of one game? That is not reliable at all. That's smelling like a desperate scum -> scum defense more than anything else.
also she's defending both of you so idk why you're characterizing defending vizzy as being scummy - ie if ofrhz is scum defending her scum buddy vizzy why does she defend you as well and start a new wagon-thing instead of just throwing her support behind you given that the count is 5-4 (or 4-3 i don't remember) rn?
this scumread of ofrhz doesn't really make much sense to me tbh
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still want {vizzy/nk15} and really want bb to maek sure they put in the lynch before deadline
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:30 pm
by Invisibility
im not repeating myself about the claiming thing
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:38 pm
by Ankamius
Does anyone around right now have prior experience with Invisibility?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:38 pm
by Not Known 15
In post 2758, skitter30 wrote:also she's defending both of you so idk why you're characterizing defending vizzy as being scummy - ie if ofrhz is scum defending her scum buddy vizzy why does she defend you as well and start a new wagon-thing instead of just throwing her support behind you given that the count is 5-4 (or 4-3 i don't remember) rn?
How they are defending invisibility is scummy, not defending in general.
And the new wagon? Possibly for towncred? That wagon was unlikely to move.
Defending me is probably supposed to be distancing in case invisibility flips scum and I flip town. And(or) it is designed to hide the weak defend on Invisibility since they defend both us...
Skitter: trying to rig the districts to get two free votes pushed through
Although maybe that's the type of strategy that would be better pushed in gamestates like where we are at now, where individual votes are more impact full.
Idk, trying to figure stuff like that isn't very easy in a game this complex
sorry, i'm still not sure what you mean by this
i imagine that scum would be trying to arrange the districts so as to make it easier to get their chosen person elected. the slot that most seems to be a thing for is maybe yours actually; it seemed on a few days that the districts were slightly tilted towards ruby, but if scum were purposefully trying to make that a thing they ddn't really capitalize on the district placements - ruby hasn't even voted in a few days
also it seems like wheme supporters are generally being sepreated i think
why were you tip-toeing around a vt claim for like a week? and going out of ur way to avoid claiming?
It's really hot in my house, so I'm going to do caveman formatting for this, numbers indicate which quote response I'm referring to.
1.im referring to scum rigging the districts so that if they want someone specific in power, they have the votes to likely muscle it through. This is mostly a thing because of the consistent town flips but it's not very well supported by the district allocations (unless someone outside of the mafia can manipulate them, I heard hebi can but it's far more limited than what I think would be necessary to cause a false negative here)
2. This is a good case, I like this
3. That's something we need to figure out at some point, I'm almost at the point of just assuming we have a tiny mafia team and multiple 3Ps to make up the numbers as the biggest possible way this setup was designed
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:50 pm
by Ankamius
In post 2690, 123456789 wrote:Because you were near lynch. Like, you were asked multiple times to claim, including by the president. Flat out refusal to do so is scum-indicative since we do have a time limit.
Anti town yes, it's not actually scummy for every single player
Tbh his tone around this interaction is looking like frustrated town more than caught scum
In post 2682, 123456789 wrote:At the same time, I think BB should go on with the deal we made and lynch NK15 since Vizzy did claim first...
i mean ill probably do that
lowkey wanted both of them to vote
but ill just do this again tomorrow since it's likely that i can get president again cause you guys have terrible voter participation and we can essentially rig elections if you guys dont vote.
im fine being the chaotic villain so you guys can shake off the apathy to elect someone more sane
there cannot be peace without first a great suffering and the greater the suffering the greater the peace
i'm having a hard time seeing NK15's posts come from scum with daychat, like the fakeclaim on aronis. this guy is also kind of just lynchbait as town
i think i want to VOTE: ankamius
I still want to know what this was all about
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:55 pm
by Ankamius
In post 2717, Not Known 15 wrote:I still do not trust Hebichan, but whatever.
I haven't seen scum doing anything wrong and this voting system is insanely scumsided. I do not scumread BB for trying(and succeeding to) to get the presidency. I do not want to see Invisibility lynched right now, but rather Ankamius(Ok, Hebichan.... but I realize that this doesn't have a chance.), but Invisibility is ok, because their name fits their presence the first three days, and that points to scum more often than not.
Pfffffffffffffff
Lynch this
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:56 pm
by Blind Bandits
just realised i said i wanted invis and nk15 to both vote
i meant both claim
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:58 pm
by Ankamius
In post 2723, ofrhz wrote:A recent invis game where he was lynched as scum. The circumstances aren't entirely the same (invis replaced into a scummy slot evidently and quickly got lynched), but he kinda just gave up in that game instead of trying to claw his way out of a lynch. His reaction here doesn't feel the same.
This is not a good case since the gamestates are completely opposite of one another. Nobody is going to have the same reaction to being wagoned every time they roll scum, and comparing a game where he was the last scum alive on day two to one where no scum are dead on day four isn't very comparible
Need to sort:
Whemestar
Invisibility
mutantdevle
skitter30
Myloninja13
Blind Bandits
Not Known 15
It's slightly worrying that so many people agree on NK15 and Invisibility. It would be helpful if there were links to EOD/SOD or other events, as this is an exceptionally large and nuanced game to process. I've skimmed a few ISOs but I doubt I'm going to be able to read the full game.
Who is the current president? Was there any shenanigans with the voting over night?
I'll keep reading and try to filter more reads.
Tin foil hot take: Hebi and NK15 are working together to make the role claim feasible and Hebi appear townie. So NK double voting to prevent the tiebreaker could've been an excuse for Hebi's "role" to remain out of reach and unable to help town, whilst Hebi gets towncred for wanting to help.
This read is for entertainment purposes only so consume at your own risk. I'm currently townleaning Hebi subject to the claim being legitimate, it's weird that she's not a threat to scum though right?
More than likely scum can block her from reaching her abilities by putting her in smaller districts with at least 1 scum who double votes. Have her JOAT abilities been unlocked yet and has anyone else apart from NK15 double voted, whilst in a district with her?
@NK15 was your double vote outted by scum checking you for fraud or did you get caught by town adding it all up?
We probably have a TvS scenario here, if I had to guess. I doubt both are scum and I'm getting that manipulative feeling from how the day is going that doesn't generally pop up when scum have two wagons to choose between. This dichotomy feels a bit... deliberate?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:03 pm
by Blind Bandits
Gnna say that I think nk15 and visible is town but we are letti the people decide who they want to kill
And not really skitter, Wraith did nothing but shitpost (better than us tbh) and i couldnt find a reason to tr psche
but thats a cool soft defense
haha! just kidding
- purrc 30
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:05 pm
by Blind Bandits
oh shit i was about to scumread ankameowse until i realized she replaced ruby red (the goat)