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In post 2747, Kerset wrote:I cast a doppel and get result. That is all.

I believe that was implied by your statement. My question was more regarding why you feel that you need to ascertain my alignment when I've been perfectly clear as to my abilities, and there were two kills last night. Also, I take it by your statement that you do not believe that Alchemist21 is mechanically clear.

In post 2749, Farkran wrote:

In post 2746, Sujimichi wrote:What is there about me to solve, Kerset? Also, could someone please explain the mechanics that clear Alchemist21?

Alchemist was Charmed. Charm prevents any action except factional kills. But if bitmap was protecting severa, factional kill alone is not enough to bypass that.

Thank you. Are you supporting Alchemist21's description of Charm then? Also, is it not possible that Alcehmist21 is lying about being Charmed (I assume someone has claimed they charmed Alchemist21)? Lastly, would it not be possible for Venus and Mars to have targetted Bitmap? I am not saying this is something with high probability, but I would like to layout all known options.

In post 2750, Sujimichi wrote:

In post 2747, Kerset wrote:I cast a doppel and get result. That is all.

I believe that was implied by your statement. My question was more regarding why you feel that you need to ascertain my alignment when I've been perfectly clear as to my abilities, and there were two kills last night. Also, I take it by your statement that you do not believe that Alchemist21 is mechanically clear.

This is only "in case we are wrong about gamma and chemist" scenario. If they flip green then we need to assume that scum tricked us with some sort of powerful mechanics.

That makes sense. Thank you.

In post 2751, Sujimichi wrote:

In post 2749, Farkran wrote:

In post 2746, Sujimichi wrote:What is there about me to solve, Kerset? Also, could someone please explain the mechanics that clear Alchemist21?

Alchemist was Charmed. Charm prevents any action except factional kills. But if bitmap was protecting severa, factional kill alone is not enough to bypass that.

Thank you. Are you supporting Alchemist21's description of Charm then? Also, is it not possible that Alcehmist21 is lying about being Charmed (I assume someone has claimed they charmed Alchemist21)? Lastly, would it not be possible for Venus and Mars to have targetted Bitmap? I am not saying this is something with high probability, but I would like to layout all known options.

So far we were able to confirm status descriptions so no one would take such high risk to fake it. Especially last scum.

Who confirmed the Charm status description? When I search the thread, I am unable to find that confirmation.

In post 2755, Sujimichi wrote:Who confirmed the Charm status description? When I search the thread, I am unable to find that confirmation.

It's confirmed dw.

If V&M targeted me they threw.

In post 2751, Sujimichi wrote:

In post 2749, Farkran wrote:

In post 2746, Sujimichi wrote:What is there about me to solve, Kerset? Also, could someone please explain the mechanics that clear Alchemist21?

Alchemist was Charmed. Charm prevents any action except factional kills. But if bitmap was protecting severa, factional kill alone is not enough to bypass that.

Thank you. Are you supporting Alchemist21's description of Charm then? Also, is it not possible that Alcehmist21 is lying about being Charmed (I assume someone has claimed they charmed Alchemist21)? Lastly, would it not be possible for Venus and Mars to have targetted Bitmap? I am not saying this is something with high probability, but I would like to layout all known options.

Alchemist probably wouldn't know about charm mechanics if this wasn't true. It's very unlikely that scum has access to Charm, otherwise salamence wouldn't have claimed Stunned and get lynched out of it.

About V&M... if they targeted bitmap, it means they attracted Bitmap's bodyguard protection to themselves, therefore Bitmap would have died in their place when you tried to kill them.

In post 2756, Bitmap wrote:

In post 2755, Sujimichi wrote:Who confirmed the Charm status description? When I search the thread, I am unable to find that confirmation.

It's confirmed dw.

Oh. I must assume it was confirmed in the Neighborhood private thread. Forgive me then if I proceed with some skepticism since it was not also confirmed in public. However, I am fine with lynching Chemist1422 and Gamma Emerald and then revisiting if the remaining mafia member is not in those two.

In post 2758, Farkran wrote:About V&M... if they targeted bitmap, it means they attracted Bitmap's bodyguard protection to themselves, therefore Bitmap would have died in their place when you tried to kill them.

Did not RadiantCowbells indicate that he believed Bitmap was targetted by mafia night 1 and that Evenstar was a Serial Killer kill? That would imply that Bitmap's bodyguard does not necessarily function as a normal bodyguard. RadiantCowbells also stated that the three of the Neighborhood private thread members were, through a combination of their roles, unkillable (though we know that not to be completely true now).

Apologies. We can revisit later if necessary. I have many more questions that a probably not best asked in the current state.

I am willing to vote Chemist1422 whenever we are ready. I assume that we would like for Gamma Emerald to return to answer the question around boosted MP first?

Yes let's wait for gamma first

In post 155, Farkran wrote:

In post 154, Sujimichi wrote:

In post 148, Farkran wrote:

In post 145, Kerset wrote:Blast disk is bad idea because first day holds the least information. Our choice today doesn't include any PR or flip relation so using vote advantage is a waste.

You are correct in theory but there are some very dangerous skills out there

And, you know this how?

I have two sets of skills, both VERY dangerous. One i can control, the other i cannot and i need mp+charge to avoid messing up

Also Fark what happened to your need of charges? You said on D1 that you need them but today you clearly picked accel (yesterday you said you wasted charge on blast).

In post 2764, Kerset wrote:

In post 155, Farkran wrote:

In post 154, Sujimichi wrote:

In post 148, Farkran wrote:

In post 145, Kerset wrote:Blast disk is bad idea because first day holds the least information. Our choice today doesn't include any PR or flip relation so using vote advantage is a waste.

You are correct in theory but there are some very dangerous skills out there

And, you know this how?

I have two sets of skills, both VERY dangerous. One i can control, the other i cannot and i need mp+charge to avoid messing up

Also Fark what happened to your need of charges? You said on D1 that you need them but today you clearly picked accel (yesterday you said you wasted charge on blast).

I planned on doing charge+accel to maximize mp but i couldn't, so screw charges.

In post 2739, Bitmap wrote:

In post 2737, Gamma Emerald wrote:I got my answer
So Chemist, how exactly does your role work?

Did you get the MP increase?

In post 2740, Chemist1422 wrote:

In post 2737, Gamma Emerald wrote:I got my answer
So Chemist, how exactly does your role work?

The disk you pick gives you 25% more MP

Yes
At 110 rn
So I really don’t think we should be lynching Chemist based on setup spec
If anyone has a reason to think otherwise feel free to speak up but until I’m looking elsewhere

In post 2766, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 2739, Bitmap wrote:

In post 2737, Gamma Emerald wrote:I got my answer
So Chemist, how exactly does your role work?

Did you get the MP increase?

In post 2740, Chemist1422 wrote:

In post 2737, Gamma Emerald wrote:I got my answer
So Chemist, how exactly does your role work?

The disk you pick gives you 25% more MP

Yes
At 110 rn
So I really don’t think we should be lynching Chemist based on setup spec
If anyone has a reason to think otherwise feel free to speak up but until I’m looking elsewhere

It's either you or him though, so... assuming you aren't scumclaiming, where do you think we should be looking at?

I already mentioned TL so...
And tbh I’d rather it be me than him rn

Do you think TL is a scum neighborizer with some passive that allows him to bypass bitmap?

Or do you think he is not a neighborizer?

Or do you think bitmap is lying?

Yes, I'm "totally scum". I would possibly sacrifice getting me and my buddy lynched through a bodyguard double claim.

lolok

I think option 1 is the most likely out of those
Options 2 and 3 are both weird, like Bitmap and RC confirmed TL’s neighborizer action and Butmap prolly has no reason to lie as town so

You should fullclaim gamma

I'm really curious about Alchemist getting stunned.

In post 2772, Farkran wrote:You should fullclaim gamma

Ok, not like my role is useful at all
So I already claimed my main ability, I also have a skill Memoria called “It’s Not a Stuffed Animal, Is It?” that gives me an extra vote for a day, and my Magia is called Hawk Shadow Slash and allows me to become Ascetic for two phases
Also I really had no idea what I was doing with my discs but I still stick to my initial comment that Bitmap’s accusation wrt discs was rather silly imo