In post 2734, team rocket queen wrote:i kinda think ydrasse is right and the dance pairs should probably be me-gloria ydrasse-infinity
and i am worried that isis might accept pooky's dance thing if we move towards that
Did you spectate Epilogue?
i did not.
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:18 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 2745, Ydrasse wrote:pooky i am going to be honest you saying my excitement for a dance portion of a game potentially being fake felt like i was being dunked into a pool of water and that pool of water was actually the world telling me you're scum for saying something like that about me
i think its pretty obvious im not scum here since i wanted dunn dead both launches and nobody listened to me but w/e
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:19 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2723, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like i think its fairly obvious im town because I never try to get dunn elimmed if I'm actually scum with him.
but if you guys want to elim me after not listening to me on dunn then I'm just done with this game and I'll go apologize for being an idiot to Hop in the dead thread.
Dunn was in real danger when exactly? And don’t even bother with this AtE. It won’t work on me after Trust Fall.
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:19 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
its not my fault nobody listens to me
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:20 pm
by Isis
I agree that was a town-indicative jump trq. I want to just townread infinity in general for more natural reasons for the most part though. Probably my second strongest townread now that, what was Ydrasse's word, the asterisk. The asterisk is here.
I read it right in the scum PT that you suggested to Hectic that you do scum theatre. I got the impression that was completely new to him but not to you. So why should I think it’s impossible you’re doing that here?
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:27 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
cuz i've never bussed a scum teammate in 20 years of playing mafia
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:28 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
not on d1 anyway
esp not in a game where it results in an instant loss
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:28 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
and scum-theater with hectic for trust fall would be because it'd be super weird if we didn't interact given our meta history together.
its not my fault nobody listened to me on him being scum
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:34 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
heres the thing
you can read my interaction with dunn
and decide for yourself is that Pooky theatering for town cred or Pooky who's actually annoyed and wants to kill dunn but nobody is listening to Pooky.
so uh, going through the vcs, this is only vc where pooky actually has a vote on dunnstral — the only concession i'll make here is that the next one is the hammer-vc on tgp where we all had to converge on someone so i have like. some leeway in my heart there.
the issue i have with pooky saying that he pushed dunn and no one wanted dunn and stuff is that like... materially, his vote for most of d1 was on tgp. he was someone who was part of the wagon and consistently applying pressure that way, and it was only at eod that there was a shift where he moved to dunn.
like, 465 dunn and tgp are null; 604 dunn and tgp are null; 947 dunn is null and tgp is scum.
in 1300, pooky hard-cases tgp as scum (and yes, i will admit that he did this in a world where tgp/dunn was a possibility). you can say that this is pooky pushing for dunn to be elimmed but again, pooky was voting tgp the entire damn day. his pushes were around tgp, calling tgp scum, making posts like this. when he changed his vote to dunn? 1421, with a jokey reason (you called isis sweaty, but we can get your buddy tgp tomorrow!) in 1436 he rescinds his scumread of tgp like... out of nowhere (my assumption is that like, he's saying dunn is tmi'ing tgp as town or Something in 1427). and then... still shades tgp in 1481. and then back to like, finding reasons to flip tgp in 1501. like.
it's just disingenuous as fuck to say that he wanted dunn all d1 and that no one listened when no, he was doing a LOT more to push tgp that entire day until the very end!!
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:37 pm
by Ydrasse
(i haven't looked at d2 yet)
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:39 pm
by Ydrasse
like at least from d1 there is no irritation from pooky when it comes to people not voting dunn.
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:40 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
i switched and made it 4-4
u think i do that to a scumbuddy? like seriously no
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:44 pm
by Infinity 324
A couple things about the setup: scum are almost never in danger, but they don’t want to put their teammates in near-danger because then they need to do some transparent shit in order to save them. So scum have to do an interesting balancing act, where they know they have to bus a little bit since 4 of them will definitely flip, but they can’t take it too far. Also, note that
scum chose which of themselves to flip
, meaning that there’s quite a bit of wine involved but I actually lean towards the unflipped scum looking pretty good on the wagons, especially when the flipped scum were not.
I locktowned isis, pooky, and jessie at the end of d1, which I want to give weight to since it isn’t often that I locktown scum. Though, pooky’s hopkirk vote looks awful now, and I don’t think them/dunn being scum theater is entirely unreasonable. If scum!pooky is capable of showing this emotional depth, though, I haven’t seen it.
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:45 pm
by Ydrasse
mmmm
let me reread you with CONTEXT now pooky
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:47 pm
by Ydrasse
In post 1517, Flea The Magician wrote:Right, I can't put this off until tomorrow. Meds have fogged me a little but lets do this.
Spoiler: duuuun duun DUUUUUUUUUUNNNNN! - cheesy song warning! lol
wow 38 posts... OK then. Oh wait.. taylor... 46... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Taylors entry is... taylor. "first!" weird vote, weird comment. votecount fix, random commentary of being weird, laughing at reads. Textbook taylor, nothing AI about this.
In post 177, Hopkirk wrote:I'd expect scum Taylor to be very mean and town Taylor to just be mean, so being very mean makes her slightly scummier. Although maybe she's just having a mean day.
In post 367, Ydrasse wrote:also jessie's energy so far reminds me of menagerie + her attempts to communicate/get things done despite the animal noise thing we had to deal with, it's not the same given that wasn't setup spec but... the feeling around it is similar
p-edit: for a tiny tiny bit yes
I also kind of like Jessie's posts.
Ydrasse how about you and Jessie pave the way to greatness with your votes?
I think Gloria called this out for being fence-sitty?
This is his 3rd post in the game and less than an hour after replacing in. He's trying to shove a couple slots who are quite absent from voting, I see nothing bad with this. Less then an hour in, I'm not going to expect much in the way of reads, but it seems he's taken the time to check the vote count provided by Jessie in #475. Closer look at that post shows Ydrasse and Jessie haven't voted or been voted so he's studied it to get an idea of the flow in the game at least at this point.
Add in he likes Jessies posts the implication is both Jessie and Ydrasse are town leans.
How the nuts am I able to work this out when I STILL can't work out Jessies reads o.o I ISO'd jessie in the morning when I was coffee fueled, and I'm doing this one late at night with brainfog... Maybe faer born with it, maybe its ADHD. I'm also yawning like every 30 seconds. what the hell brain o.o....
might go back through jessie tomorrow night when I'm shattered lol
In post 194, Infinity 324 wrote:Maybe I’m seeing the same things hopkirk is? I also think taylor is relatively likely to have engaged with me on game-relevant things as town
The aggressive anti-cute stuff felt evasive to some extent. I agree if that's what you mean.
In post 367, Ydrasse wrote:also jessie's energy so far reminds me of menagerie + her attempts to communicate/get things done despite the animal noise thing we had to deal with, it's not the same given that wasn't setup spec but... the feeling around it is similar
p-edit: for a tiny tiny bit yes
I also kind of like Jessie's posts.
Ydrasse how about you and Jessie pave the way to greatness with your votes?
Jessie -- yes. what is it that you like about Ydrasse?
Woah woah woah slow down there, I never said I liked Ydrasse, I'm just asking her to lead the way as my senior in this game since I noticed she isn't voting anybody
Thats legit, the implication is there though and a couple people have seemed to think it.
Thats probably how I worked out the read. Other people have said it and it came to mind. Whew. Still, what the nuts brain!
Double dippy hectic... silent stat 1... wut. idgi.
That is what it reminds me of When you list a bunch of town which are generally consensus reads, say you should be townreading someone but don't act on that, two people's interactions are weird etc.
I like #521. Kinda. I think the skitter suspicion is probably legit from what people have said. scummies be forever townlean. Not sure why but I'm sure I've seen this a few times around.
In post 687, TheGoldenParadox wrote:i think the entire concept of a d1 townbloc is flawed, although the relative naturalness of it makes me question it far less. gypyx and gloria look town, as do ydrasse and infinity. i'm really going back and forth on pooky, but settling in on a slight townlean on them. hopkirk is still town, and i'm much less confident in isis, so VOTE: dunnstral this slot has been fairly bad from the beginning and has not gotten better.
I don't think TGP is town and this post deserves pressure
I agree with this. and I picked the post in question apart elsewhere.
Reaction seems indifferent to me, but these are out of context. The bits I'm seeing here look like Pooks has just kinda latched on and is doing the pooky thing of prodding and poking.
Pooky is saying I'm scum with you. The time to explore that should be after we elim you
OK apparently this is TMI... I don't get it...
Gloria Cleary wrote:[quote="In post 1512I just found it weird that he was so suspicious of Pooky and suddenly dropped it. That’s the entire basis for my reasoning.
I don't think the suspicion has been dropped looking at it. It just looks like TGP is the higher priority than pooky at the moment?
POOKY I FOUND A SHRUGGIE BEAR! ¯\_ȌᴥȌ_/¯
I'm kinda leaning town here if I'm honest... What are people seeing that I'm not? :/