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Most people tend to confuse no result and no action
Also I’m in a weird-ass spot because I want to believe DGB but the reason why involve potentially dodgy setup spec

I feel a bit better about Gamma now.

I wanted to check Shrek because I felt like StD and AA9 were the ignored voice of reason and they both SR Shrek. And both of them are clear on a Red Shrek. And Roden is also Clear on a Red Shrek, but will check for distancing.

So far FMPOV, we have Me, DGB, AA9, Roden as completely clear. Then to a lesser degree I would put both DW and Gamma in the second tier (but these can be wrong but are okay for now). Mega also has potential to clear everything up all nice and purty like, so I'm looking forward to that.

I'm TRing Nero and Cheeky. Also, I think A50 is Soft-Cleared for Shrek's vote there.

So altogether, the clears or potential clears FMPOV are:

Me
DGB
AA9
Roden
Mega
Nero
Cheeky
A50

We can Reeval later but I think that's Auto as it is.

In post 2629, Shrek wrote:VOTE: almost50

sure im up for some pressure

In post 2635, Shrek wrote:

In post 2632, Nero Cain wrote:We should have just prob killed mega yesterday

tbh i agree with this. the last minute claim was sus as hell

In post 2668, Shrek wrote:put me up if you want but im legitimately town. personally my choices for a lim today would be mega/kitty/a50. i KNOW what you are thinking that i am mega sus for not joining your hood but i have a PR that explains it. not sure if i should claim now or later when im endangered but i completely understand where dgb/lq are coming from so do NOT get on them either just yet

Zero mention of DGB getting no result. Shrek never even saw it coming.

I feel like one of the no results on DGB could be a scum PR

OKAY, the explanation y'all have been waiting for:

First, assume DGB is town because if we don't then we have scum in DGB/Shrek. Now we have three claimed no results on DGB's slot. That means DGB is ascetic or was rolestopped. If the first then our assumption DGB was town is wrong, and if rolestopped then DGB was not roleblocked. Therefore, the loyal modifier would mean Shrek is scum.

In post 2746, CheekyTeeky wrote:

In post 2720, Shrek wrote:fuck it ill claim but just to stop the gladiating

cheeky dgb isnt ascetic. im a tracker and dgb didnt perform an action last night which means it was either rbed or is lying about what it is

In post 2737, Shrek wrote:

In post 2735, Dwlee99 wrote:Shrek did you get no result or no action?

i got no result back. are they not the same thing?

Scum lying, these posts contradict each other. You played well though bruv, don't feel bad.

The problem Cheeky is if Shrek and you both got the same result and Shrek flips red, this also implicates you as scum. Idk what your investigation role is but if you're claiming it failed, I don't know how that's possible if Shrek is confscum through DGB's role.

My role can only be roleblocked or fail on an ascetic and as I said earlier it would mean scum had to have copped me N1 to RB me.

It doesn't bother me now though because if you flip red Shrek then me we'll still win given everything out there.

It's more likely I'll be NK'd now though or RB'd the rest of the game so our other PRs can get to work on DoTW, MegA and Kitty.

I kinda want to say that being copped N1 is more likely to come from someone who knows me though...

But that might be a red herring given I was the only claim D1. I was expecting some kind of PR checker but not a cop so I'll play differently next time.

In post 2756, CheekyTeeky wrote:My role can only be roleblocked or fail on an ascetic and as I said earlier it would mean scum had to have copped me N1 to RB me.

But I'm failing to understand why they RB you and not DGB who can make people conftown AND give them a shared PT. On the other hand, I don't know why you volunteer this information either if you're scum.

In post 2761, Roden wrote:

In post 2756, CheekyTeeky wrote:My role can only be roleblocked or fail on an ascetic and as I said earlier it would mean scum had to have copped me N1 to RB me.

But I'm failing to understand why they RB you and not DGB who can make people conftown AND give them a shared PT. On the other hand, I don't know why you volunteer this information either if you're scum.

They shot DGB and RB'd me.

I can't answer why they didn't shot me and RB DGB.

In post 2726, Roden wrote:I'm so confused?

Cheeky checked DGB and got no result.

Shrek checked DGB and got no result.

DGB checked Shrek and got no result.

How does any of that make any sense?

Ha ha ha... we know now that there is scum in there. and it is most likely Shrek.

In post 2731, Shrek wrote:i mean i didnt get a result back so idk what he is. you tell me.

then your claim makes no sense.

In post 2736, CheekyTeeky wrote:

In post 2731, Shrek wrote:i mean i didnt get a result back so idk what he is. you tell me.

Shrek claim makes the least sense. If he flips green can go DGB, but pretty sure he flips red now.

I second it.

In post 2738, Dwlee99 wrote:They are not the same.

No result = action failed (rolestopper or ascetic or blocked etc.)

"Your target did not visit anyone" = what it sayd

lets go with this

VOTE: shrek

In post 2762, CheekyTeeky wrote:

In post 2761, Roden wrote:

In post 2756, CheekyTeeky wrote:My role can only be roleblocked or fail on an ascetic and as I said earlier it would mean scum had to have copped me N1 to RB me.

But I'm failing to understand why they RB you and not DGB who can make people conftown AND give them a shared PT. On the other hand, I don't know why you volunteer this information either if you're scum.

They shot DGB and RB'd me.

In post 2763, CheekyTeeky wrote:I can't answer why they didn't shot me and RB DGB.

The problem with that is NAR means DGB's result still goes through if it dies, so someone still gets checked. And LQ can provide proof of who was checked since DGB's flip would reveal if it's truly Loyal. The only way this makes sense is if scum doesn't realize this, which is definitely possible.

Either way, once Mega shows up and gives us their results, I think we just vote Shrek here.

In post 2629, Shrek wrote:VOTE: almost50

sure im up for some pressure

In post 2672, Nero Cain wrote:What if cheeky were blocked?

Oh wait a minute...he did mean me. Snapped!

How did Nero know my action failed at that point??

So it's something like Shrek, Nero, MegA, DoTW

In post 2680, Shrek wrote:

In post 2674, CheekyTeeky wrote:I don't understand the guilty on Shrek though because if they flip green then we just kill DGB? Unless Shrek is scum buss to let DGB end game?

assuming theyre not lying about their role in the first place, i know that theyre telling the truth about me not joining the hood. HOWEVER that is NAI due to my PR

I don't understand how tracker makes the result NAI..

I opened today saying DGB is disloyal ascetic and Nero says I was probably roleblocked which is TMI because I could have been a town rolecop to gain that information, since Nero tried to explain why my action failed means he knew I was accusing DGB of being Ascetic because my role failed. In conclusion, Nero is the scummiest scumbutt that ever scummed.

Rolecop would still fail on ascetic
Fucking DUH

In post 2632, Nero Cain wrote:We should have just prob killed mega yesterday

(Wrong thread)

In post 2771, Gamma Emerald wrote:Rolecop would still fail on ascetic
Fucking DUH

Oh yeah... ^.^ I still want Nero to be scum.