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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:48 pm
by team rocket queen
In post 2772, Infinity 324 wrote:So scum have to do an interesting balancing act, where they know they have to bus a little bit since 4 of them will definitely flip, but they can’t take it too far.
the conspirators were not aware of this according to hectic:
In post 2653, Hectic wrote:At the start of the game, the 6 of them were told that if any of them die in the first two launches, they will instantly lose.
They are not made aware of what is to come after the first two launches.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:48 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2772, Infinity 324 wrote:A couple things about the setup: scum are almost never in danger, but they don’t want to put their teammates in near-danger because then they need to do some transparent shit in order to save them. So scum have to do an interesting balancing act, where they know they have to bus a little bit since 4 of them will definitely flip, but they can’t take it too far. Also, note that
scum chose which of themselves to flip
, meaning that there’s quite a bit of wine involved but I actually lean towards the unflipped scum looking pretty good on the wagons, especially when the flipped scum were not.

I locktowned isis, pooky, and jessie at the end of d1, which I want to give weight to since it isn’t often that I locktown scum. Though, pooky’s hopkirk vote looks awful now, and I don’t think them/dunn being scum theater is entirely unreasonable. If scum!pooky is capable of showing this emotional depth, though, I haven’t seen it.
Hmmm . . . that’s really interesting and now I’m even more paranoid, because of the 4 flips, who looked townier than Skitter? Wifom drives me nuts.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:51 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2775, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 2772, Infinity 324 wrote:So scum have to do an interesting balancing act, where they know they have to bus a little bit since 4 of them will definitely flip, but they can’t take it too far.
the conspirators were not aware of this according to hectic:
In post 2653, Hectic wrote:At the start of the game, the 6 of them were told that if any of them die in the first two launches, they will instantly lose.
They are not made aware of what is to come after the first two launches.
Ah, so I think that makes me think Gypyx wagon is all town. This isn’t like a regular game where scum can afford to split wagons.

So Pooky’s sr Ydrasse in light of this, looks even worse.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:52 pm
by Ydrasse
In post 1511, Infinity 324 wrote:
Gloria Cleary wrote:
In post 1503, Infinity 324 wrote:Tinfoil: pooky is scum with TGP and wanted to tie TGP to a townie but now realizes they can elim dunn first instead. Hmm.

UNVOTE:

PEdit: I mean yeah, but dunn said he was gonna do some more solving in the second half.

@Flea TMI= too much information, when you say something you could only know if you are scum.
So you think we should flip TGP first then? I’m not opposed, I just really hated Dunn’s recent posts.
I’m thinking about it. I still feel like TGP is much townier on play, but both their counterwagons got quite a bit more traction that I expected. Given that the reasons for scumreading dunn here really felt like stretches, I’m officially weirded out. Hopkirk dropping the dunn vote and dipping out bothers me as well.

PEdit: MT I totally agree with you
erm. i don't know how to feel about this right now because a few posts later skitter comes in and talks to infinity and then infinity votes tgp AHHHH

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:53 pm
by Ydrasse
i'm all-inning on jessie/gloria dancing together right now

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:53 pm
by Infinity 324
Skitter was in a lot of people’s PoE’s and was a major wagon for much of d1, it makes sense that skitter would be flipped. But jessie has a great point that scum didn’t actually know that they would be flipped. This means that they didn’t have a ton of incentive to bus, especially since they could make sure none of them got eliminated on d1. Scum could’ve predicted something happening which lead to more flips early, but it’s best to assume that scum tended not to bus on d1.

For the record, I’m not comfortable with gloria deciding the pairs here.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:54 pm
by Ydrasse
also if wrong on pooky i am going to feel very bad but like, right now i feel like i'm right

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:54 pm
by Ydrasse
In post 2780, Infinity 324 wrote:Skitter was in a lot of people’s PoE’s and was a major wagon for much of d1, it makes sense that skitter would be flipped. But jessie has a great point that scum didn’t actually know that they would be flipped. This means that they didn’t have a ton of incentive to bus, especially since they could make sure none of them got eliminated on d1. Scum could’ve predicted something happening which lead to more flips early, but it’s best to assume that scum tended not to bus on d1.

For the record, I’m not comfortable with gloria deciding the pairs here.
why not?

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:55 pm
by Infinity 324
She’s one of the people I was townreading the least on d1, though I do need to look at the wagons again.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:56 pm
by Ydrasse
okay, ideal world then who do you want to dance?

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:58 pm
by Dunnstral
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:00 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 2784, Ydrasse wrote:okay, ideal world then who do you want to dance?
I’ll do a whole colored VCA tomorrow and figure a bunch of stuff out but isis and jessie for sure.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:02 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2780, Infinity 324 wrote:Skitter was in a lot of people’s PoE’s and was a major wagon for much of d1, it makes sense that skitter would be flipped. But jessie has a great point that scum didn’t actually know that they would be flipped. This means that they didn’t have a ton of incentive to bus, especially since they could make sure none of them got eliminated on d1. Scum could’ve predicted something happening which lead to more flips early, but it’s best to assume that scum tended not to bus on d1.

For the record, I’m not comfortable with gloria deciding the pairs here.

:roll:

Yeah because you’re Dunn read was so accurate and you couldn’t tell MT was lockscum. Yeah no, fuck that shit seriously. I’m not tolerating anymore of your bs shade on me.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:04 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2786, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2784, Ydrasse wrote:okay, ideal world then who do you want to dance?
I’ll do a whole colored VCA tomorrow and figure a bunch of stuff out but isis and jessie for sure.
We are not listening to you until you admit that your reads are bad. I’m not talking about Isis but Dunn and me obviously.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:06 pm
by Infinity 324
Yeah I had a bad read on dunn, but I think my reads besides that were mostly good this game? Especially given that my instincts on tweet and skitter early were correct, this feels like a bad time to ignore my gut.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:06 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2308, Infinity 324 wrote:Solid town: isis, flea, ydrasse,
dunn
, jessie, pooky
Keeps being towny but I keep getting paranoia: gloria
Townleans: skitter, MT, hopkirk
Null: gypyx

Wow this sucks

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:07 pm
by Infinity 324
Three out of my 4 bottom reads flipped scum.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:09 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2789, Infinity 324 wrote:Yeah I had a bad read on dunn, but I think my reads besides that were mostly good this game? Especially given that my instincts on tweet and skitter early were correct, this feels like a bad time to ignore my gut.
You fucking had him as “solid town” ffs! I think Jessie should decide, so you can stop being bad at reading me. It’s seriously getting annoying, just stop!

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:11 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2791, Infinity 324 wrote:Three out of my 4 bottom reads flipped scum.
There is no fucking way in hell you should be paranoid of me now. I’m really just probably not going to talk to you until you wake tf up.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:11 pm
by Infinity 324
I strongly dislike it when people insist that I townread them, because the sorting process is literally what playing mafia is and you’re asking me to put that aside and say you’re town because you told me to.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:13 pm
by Gloria Cleary
Sorry but you’re just God, I would have prefered you actually be scum here shitpushing me but it’s obviously you are just clueless how to read me. You probably would have given me the scroll in Death Curse too, I bet money on it.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:15 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 2794, Infinity 324 wrote:I strongly dislike it when people insist that I townread them, because the sorting process is literally what playing mafia is and you’re asking me to put that aside and say you’re town because you told me to.
I was on the freaking Gypyx wagon and scum couldn’t afford to lose one of their own, so what brand of moonlogic are you still paranoiaong on me after that?

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:20 pm
by skitter30
man i love people talking abt my scumgame

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:20 pm
by Infinity 324
I don’t think this engagement is very useful to either winning this game or for either of our mental states, but I do think it’s important to point out that either gypyx or dunn is guaranteed to have at least one scum on it.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:21 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 2797, skitter30 wrote:man i love people talking abt my scumgame
i would've expected you to not take the easy way out skitts :/

disappointed