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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:00 am
by Menalque
Was that actually you who played Rb1

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:00 am
by Andante
In post 2758, Menalque wrote:Andante are you an alt?
nope

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:01 am
by Menalque
Ty just trying to get my head around whether the new faces are actually new faces or nah

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:02 am
by Sleepless Assassin
In post 2771, Menalque wrote:
In post 2765, Sleepless Assassin wrote:you were defending flow trap until he got wagoned so associatives are there if he flips scum.
This makes no sense to me

Why does scum!IV switch from defending at the worst possible time to a bad bus when he’s already set up to play defensively

Like this sounds more like IV!town, plus bussing is p much suicidal in PyP from my relatively recent memory
A lot of people won't bus until their buddy is already in trouble.

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:02 am
by Menalque
Imma leave my vote on sleepless for now, i may be back on later but we’ll see

Ciao

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:03 am
by Menalque
In post 2778, Sleepless Assassin wrote:
In post 2771, Menalque wrote:
In post 2765, Sleepless Assassin wrote:you were defending flow trap until he got wagoned so associatives are there if he flips scum.
This makes no sense to me

Why does scum!IV switch from defending at the worst possible time to a bad bus when he’s already set up to play defensively

Like this sounds more like IV!town, plus bussing is p much suicidal in PyP from my relatively recent memory
A lot of people won't bus until their buddy is already in trouble.
Mmmmm, idk

Feel like people will try to get hammer cred or hardbus normally not just moderately change opinion once someone’s getting heat

Anyway, IV is an easy read, if he looks incredibly limbait he’s prob town, if he reads like a v towny boi then he’s scum

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:04 am
by Faker
In post 2775, Menalque wrote:Was that actually you who played Rb1
No, but I've played worse. Let me see if I can find a real example, shouldn't be hard.

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:08 am
by Mare
In post 2766, Menalque wrote:
In post 2760, Mare wrote:Also I don’t actually think this has a great chance of flipping scum and would still prefer Cakez but c’est la vie.
Did I already get u to walk me through the why bit on cakez!scum?
No but you’re leaving already soOOoooOoo.

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:19 am
by innocentvillager
In post 2780, Menalque wrote:Anyway, IV is an easy read, if he looks incredibly limbait he’s prob town, if he reads like a v towny boi then he’s scum
??? both of these are wrong?

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:19 am
by Andante
don't forget pooky wasn't a tr... lol

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:20 am
by innocentvillager
im like one of the furthest slots from limbait in this game and im also a towny boi

doesn't make me scum, it makes me obvtown

it's exceedingly rare that i get miselimed as town these days.

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:21 am
by innocentvillager
i am a p easy read tho usually and i think i am this game

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:24 am
by Sleepless Assassin
In post 2780, Menalque wrote:
In post 2778, Sleepless Assassin wrote:
In post 2771, Menalque wrote:
In post 2765, Sleepless Assassin wrote:you were defending flow trap until he got wagoned so associatives are there if he flips scum.
This makes no sense to me

Why does scum!IV switch from defending at the worst possible time to a bad bus when he’s already set up to play defensively

Like this sounds more like IV!town, plus bussing is p much suicidal in PyP from my relatively recent memory
A lot of people won't bus until their buddy is already in trouble.
Mmmmm, idk

Feel like people will try to get hammer cred or hardbus normally not just moderately change opinion once someone’s getting heat

Anyway, IV is an easy read, if he looks incredibly limbait he’s prob town, if he reads like a v towny boi then he’s scum
The best bussers will do what you described. But I think most players tend to fall into what I described.

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:26 am
by innocentvillager
herosolve rn is midway/flow/mena

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:31 am
by Faker
S->T

Sleepless, skitter, Cakez, flow trap, midwaybear, Datisi, catboi, northsidegal, Mena, S_S, Mare (mostly off of claim), IV, Andante

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:39 am
by Faker
In post 2713, catboi wrote:
In post 2711, Faker wrote:separately think Sleepless has been flagrantly self-preservative first and foremost throughout this.
Can you give me some examples of this?
In post 2721, catboi wrote:VOTE: sleepless

reread the iso and almost all of the last 40-ish posts are white noise
I want to note that my first instinct to seeing this was to think every wagon was wrong, unvote, and cower in a corner because I suck.

And that is probably exactly what is happening, but my choice is made.

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:46 am
by catboi
In post 2790, Faker wrote:
In post 2713, catboi wrote:
In post 2711, Faker wrote:separately think Sleepless has been flagrantly self-preservative first and foremost throughout this.
Can you give me some examples of this?
In post 2721, catboi wrote:VOTE: sleepless

reread the iso and almost all of the last 40-ish posts are white noise
I want to note that my first instinct to seeing this was to think every wagon was wrong, unvote, and cower in a corner because I suck.

And that is probably exactly what is happening, but my choice is made.
Come at me

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:47 am
by Faker
One thing to note with northsidegal; I was very confused as to why she bothered to engage with my pedantry, such as in 1633 and 2220. I thought the willingness to entertain this and vague warmth very weird, and poked at this by being intentionally ice cold, which she responded to with 2254.

2562 kind of ties into the first two. I'm not sure if it makes 2254 worse or not.

I feel like this interactions should be +town with the extra context but am not completely sold. I don't think being ingratiating in 2562 is +town, but I think the earlier insistence tied in might be.

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:49 am
by Faker
In post 2791, catboi wrote:Come at me
You're not happening today, and as my read line shows I am very not sure. I did not like your extremely rapid convalescence over something more incremental, nor the way you've interacted with Cakez specifically. I also absolutely think you do the brief cursory review voteswap if you think it will be free and unlikely to be punished.

I would be happy to revisit this Day 2.

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:52 am
by catboi
In post 2793, Faker wrote:
In post 2791, catboi wrote:Come at me
You're not happening today, and as my read line shows I am very not sure. I did not like your extremely rapid convalescence over something more incremental, nor the way you've interacted with Cakez specifically. I also absolutely think you do the brief cursory review voteswap if you think it will be free and unlikely to be punished.

I would be happy to revisit this Day 2.
I can't control how my emotions function in relation to the game and don't care about the rest

love you bb~ ( *¯ ³¯*)♡

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:52 am
by Faker
You also have not directly confirmed 2734. You are the only player here who knows how I think as scum, and I strongly believe the truth value is obvious.

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:54 am
by Faker
It's not just your emotions; it's how sure you are in pushing something and taking point. I support getting back in the saddle immediately, eager to try again even if you know you will fall flat.

But this isn't about what I want of you, this is about what I think you'd actually do, and I think you'd take it slower.

Again, this is not a hard read, more vague misgivings, but you asked me to speak more and I am willing to.

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:59 am
by catboi
Faker wrote:You also have not directly confirmed 2734. You are the only player here who knows how I think as scum, and I strongly believe the truth value is obvious.
In post 2734, Faker wrote:I would just outsource the read on me to catboi.

Calling out Pooky to go to bat against me was a hard townclaim. Not even remotely worth the risk as scum.
I had admitted it a little earlier but yes you're clearly town this game
Faker wrote:It's not just your emotions; it's how sure you are in pushing something and taking point. I support getting back in the saddle immediately, eager to try again even if you know you will fall flat.

But this isn't about what I want of you, this is about what I think you'd actually do, and I think you'd take it slower.

Again, this is not a hard read, more vague misgivings, but you asked me to speak more and I am willing to.
I feel like I'm taking it pretty slow. I am unabashedly riding your coattails here because I feelyou're more reliable than I am.

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:01 am
by Faker
I WAS FINE WITH ALL OF THAT

I WAS FINE WITH IT, SAID OKAY AND READY TO MOVE ON AND THEN
In post 2797, catboi wrote:
because I feelyou're more reliable than I am.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

IN WHAT WORLD DO YOU EVER TYPE THIS AS TOWN EXCEPT TO HARD TROLL

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:03 am
by catboi
In post 2749, Mare wrote:Flow and Sleepless feel like the functionally same elim so I prefer Sleepless who has said stuff recently that can be read posthumously and be somewhat meaningfully.
In post 2760, Mare wrote:Also I don’t actually think this has a great chance of flipping scum and would still prefer Cakez but c’est la vie.
What does the stuff he's said actually matter if you think his chances of flipping scum aren't great?