note to all: I'll have limited access through the holiday weekend. Traveling to Boston for thanksgiving, leaving tonight. Returning sunday evening. I might be able to make short posts from my phone while I'm away. I probably won't return to full activity until tuesday. Posting this in all my games.
esurio wrote: borrowed someone else's words without bothering to clarify my own specific opinion. Had I cared enough at the time to rehash in my own words what Nacho had said, maybe I would have pointed out that bodyguards don't really 'protect' in the same sense a doctor or commuter does. Maybe. Although it really wouldn't have changed anything. Even if you ignore the "bodyguard" portion, you have to admit the CPR Doc fakeclaim and one-shot doctor protect is more than enough protection to be wary of a commuter claim especially in a game that doesn't seem to be particularly heavy on the power roles.
The fake cpr doc claim is more vig like than protective role like, plus it doesn't play into balance at all anyways because it was a FAKE CLAIM. So if you're now saying a bodyguard isn't a protective role either, you're now justifying your disbelief of charlie's claim on a fake claim, and a 1-shot doc that was passed out from an inventor? That doesn't seem like a reason to say that "there have been too many protective roles so I don't buy charlie's claim".
No, at the time, you used the fake claim, the 1-shot doc, AND the bodyguard as justification to disbelief charlies claim. Today you're pausing at the idea of ythan-scum based on nothing but the claim, and saying it doesn't count as a protective role when its functionally similar to a bodyguard.
For that matter, the fact that the bodyguard role is so similar to the claimed lightning rod role makes me doubt that they would both be present in the game, regardless of whether they are protective roles or not. I would expect one or the other, not both.
ythan+esurio scum pair anyone?
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Regarding Batt, I think KMD touched on this but I didn't put it together until just now, but is whole caps lock part is just fearmongering: "IF WE TRY AND CONFIRM YTHAN, THEN TOWN LOSES." - That is only true if it is LyLo and ythan is scum. Right now, it is not necessarily LyLo, and there are other scum we can lynch.
The reason I'm not ready to lynch him for it is because it is consistent with the way he attacked KMD earlier in the game, and I'm not sure if the consistency means thats just how he plays as town, or if he's consistent scum.
Gut is telling me that Batt is not scum. It also doesn't make sense that ythan is calling Batt "as blatant obvscum today as he was yesterday." Ythan never mentioned anything about batt being scummy at all before today. If batt was obvscum yesterday, why didn't ythan ever mention it or consider him for a lynch?
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I'm really putting a lot of faith into the idea that KMD is town, and nacho seems town today. I don't think scum-Nacho comes out of nowhere attacking ythan today.
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That leaves holy, kunk, and locke. I think I've already made my feelings on these 3 known.
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vote: ythan
for this post and other points I've presented earlier. I know there is a chance we can find out for sure whether ythan is scum, but it still relies on us being ale to lynch scum today, and I can't decide on anybody else I'm at all confident wouldn't be a mislynch.
