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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:58 pm
by Zdenek
You should vote him. It will help.
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:46 am
by TMTOLBTWNTOF
In post 2739, Calcifer wrote: In post 2214, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:It means to try to make what your saying less offensive or boat rocking.
I've no idea if this actually constitutes a read, just noticing that it's not the normal way other people post.
What is your read on Goat at the moment?
In post 2597, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:Regarding the meta on Calcifer, both heads, is it possible it could change due to them playing together?
That's mostly what she was talking about. What do you think of her conclusions?
In post 2597, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:I don't understand what your motivation is for pointing these out, if Serene is mason claim
Do you think Serene is confirmed town from the mason claim? If so, there's clear scum motivation with the possibility of confused town. Which do you think it is?
1. I have yet to have anyone answer my question- Is mitigation an action that is normally counted as a scum action?
2. People say both heads of you are aggressive heads, so the expectation that the other head would play aggressively might cause you to.
3. Could you give me links of scum claiming mason that succeeded? From what I gather, it's not a conventional path to take.
In post 2763, Thirdkoopa wrote:What Mason claim did I miss?
In post 1200, Zdenek wrote:So I read.
I think scum are lurking. Except for maybe BulbaFenix, but they're voting Stevie, so they're in my good book again.
This is totally possible so far from what I've read. I want to see an analysis on the Lynch D1. I think that entire thing is scum-fueled. I wouldn't be surprised if scum were fencesitting.
Page 50 right now. Still got more to read. What claims did I miss in-general? Has anyone done any VCA (Vote-Count Analysis)?
Dramonic + Serene are masons.
What is your take on the first 50 pages?
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:58 am
by KingCrabd
Thirdkoopa claims to have been current up to page 50 when he made that post. Issue is, the mason claim was on page 45, and pages 45-50 were pretty much entirely centered around the mason claim discussion. Scum isn't bothering to read the entire thread.
VOTE: thirdkoopa
Will get to the other stuff asked of me/etc in a few.
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:09 am
by Rift Adrift
In post 2801, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:1. I have yet to have anyone answer my question- Is
mitigation
an action that is normally counted as a scum action?
I missed this question earlier, and I have no idea what you are talking about. What prompted this? I remember someone (was it you?) calling part of a post mitigation, but can't recall anything about a mitigation action.
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:10 am
by TMTOLBTWNTOF
In post 2199, The Goat wrote:vote: Stevie
Serene, after reading through the later stages of D1, I'd prefer that you try to behave a lot more pro-town. Thanks in advance.
This post.
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:15 am
by Rift Adrift
Something like that, posted to a player who is confirmed or presumed town and not pulling their weight, is not unusual coming from any alignment in my experience. It's usually said with a big helping of exasperation when coming from a town player, but play style is relevant. Orcinus' dram vote is pretty much on the opposite end of that continuum. In orcinus' case, I don't consider it alignment indicative because play style is relevant.
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:21 am
by Rift Adrift
In post 2802, KingCrabd wrote:Thirdkoopa claims to have been current up to page 50 when he made that post. Issue is, the mason claim was on page 45, and pages 45-50 were pretty much entirely centered around the mason claim discussion. Scum isn't bothering to read the entire thread.
VOTE: thirdkoopa
Will get to the other stuff asked of me/etc in a few.
In games this size from what I've seen, scum usually have daytime communications. I'm not sure if it's safe to assume, but I want to assume it. Even if scum don't have daytime talk, wouldn't it be a topic of conversation on night 1?
thirdkoopa is in my scumpile for a bunch of other reasons.
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:42 am
by Serene
Scum don't always have day talk in larges, it's mod dependent
Letters, I don't know offhand specific games where scum claimed mason successfully, though I know it has happened. I will say that one of my other heads and I claimed masons together as scum in Gay Mafia and pretty much lost us the game. Dumbest thing I ever did and I would not repeat that.
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:48 am
by Serene
I disagree with DGB and feel Orc is pretty obviously town right now
I think he's a bit of a madman but hell we all go a little mad sometimes
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:54 am
by Zdenek
In post 2801, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:3. Could you give me links of scum claiming mason that succeeded? From what I gather, it's not a conventional path to take.
Day one, I have never seen it.
Near the end of the game, it happened in Max's The Aftermath, and I think that is the only time I've seen it.
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:03 am
by Serene
I've never seen it day 1.
I don't remember it in aftermath but I do remember NOT CLAIMING MY TRACKER GUILTY ON FATE
And then getting NKd by SpyreX
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:26 am
by StevieT92
In post 2808, Serene wrote:I disagree with DGB and feel Orc is pretty obviously town right now
I think he's a bit of a madman but hell we all go a little mad sometimes
This whole game is insane
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:31 am
by StevieT92
Can we wagon BRO now or do i need to post more ISO of him?
unvote, vote: BROseidon
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:36 am
by Serene
Do you have any other reads?
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:23 pm
by StevieT92
Definite Scum: BRO, King Crabd, Zdenek
Leaning Scum: Letters, Calcifer, Metal Sonic, StubbsKVM, BulbaFenix
Null/Scum: Calcifer, Thirdkoopa, Shadi
Leaning Town: The Goat, serene
Definitely Town: Orcinus
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:25 pm
by Rift Adrift
I'm insulted.
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:40 pm
by StevieT92
youre town too 8)
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:56 pm
by Serene
In post 2814, StevieT92 wrote:Definite Scum: BRO, King Crabd, Zdenek
Leaning Scum: Letters, Calcifer, Metal Sonic, StubbsKVM, BulbaFenix
Null/Scum: Calcifer, Thirdkoopa, Shadi
Leaning Town: The Goat, serene
Definitely Town: Orcinus
Switch the
leaning scum
to
scum
, the
scum
to
townies
and you're good.
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:03 pm
by DeasVail
I haven't seen PV post in a while, so I'll just do a vote count. Please let me know in bold any mistakes.
(as of Post 2817)
BulbaFenix (3)
- Zdenek, DOMO, Baby Spice,
StevieT92 (3)
- BROseidon, The Goat, StubbsKVM
Thirdkoopa (3)
- Cephrir, Calcifer, KingCrabd
DOMO (2)
- Ankamius, BulbaFenix
Zdenek (2)
- Brian Hollywood, Metal Sonic
Dramonic (1)
- orcinus_theoriginal
orcinus_theoriginal (1)
- Serene
BROseidon (1)
- StevieT92
Not Voting (5)
- dramonic, Shadi1337, Thirdkoopa, TMTOLBTWNTOF, Rift Adrift
With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch
Deadline:
Wednesday, July 24, at 9am Central Time
Replacing:
No one
Prods:
Brian Hollywood, Dramonic
V/LAs:
None
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:10 pm
by Cephrir
In post 2814, StevieT92 wrote:Definite Scum: BRO, King Crabd, Zdenek
Leaning Scum: Letters, Calcifer, Metal Sonic, StubbsKVM, BulbaFenix
Null/Scum: Calcifer, Thirdkoopa, Shadi
Leaning Town: The Goat, serene
Definitely Town: Orcinus
Tell me about KingCrabd and Metal Sonic. I'd also like to hear your personal reasons for suspecting Calcifer if you haven't already mentioned them. Since I already know Zdenek is basically mutual OMGUS at this point, I won't bother with that.
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:16 pm
by Cephrir
Upon briefly ISOing Stevie I can't really figure out why he seems dead set on Bro. I mean he iso'd Bro, posted about his posts, mentioned a couple quotes he didn't like, and apparently that's supposed to constitute a #1 scum read? =/
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:30 pm
by Calcifer
please don't say this.
please don't break my heart, cephrir.
Ceephrir's gone back to normal.
In post 2801, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:1. I have yet to have anyone answer my question- Is mitigation an action that is normally counted as a scum action?
I don't operate in scumtells. Is mitigating scummy? Usually, probably. Depends on the context.
In post 2801, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:3. Could you give me links of scum claiming mason that succeeded? From what I gather, it's not a conventional path to take.
It's not a conventional path. Does that make them confirmed town?
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:24 pm
by dramonic
Do you always vig your masons?
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:37 pm
by Serene
Orcinus is propelled by the wind. He spins in every direction.
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:51 pm
by Zdenek
In post 2819, Cephrir wrote:Since I already know Zdenek is basically mutual OMGUS at this point, I won't bother with that.
DIAF.