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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:01 pm
by Kokichi Oma
In post 2798, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 2796, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 2794, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 2791, Kokichi Oma wrote:I thought his reaction to it was bad. Sorry Arthur my reads are bad lol. Listen to someone else
So, it was you then? Sorry Maria, in that case.
No. I'm Merlin. I'm saying Arthur shouldn't listen to me anymore. Are you reading this game lol
I KNOW that. I mean that you were the one with the shit reads, not Maria. That is what you said, isn’t it?
Yes. My reads suck. And for the last time, she isnt Arthur. Shes town tho.

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:04 pm
by Varsoon
Ya'll. We don't need to be antagonizing each other here.
That's how we had the situation we had on D1.

Nancy, I don't know that I've ever seen you use a swear. Take a breath.

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:05 pm
by Kokichi Oma
Varsoon. Reads?

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:07 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 2799, Kokichi Oma wrote:Nancy what are your reads from towniest to scummiest
Well,

You
Maria (obviously)

Varsoon

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Dunn

Penguin is looking better.

Who else is still in this game?

Chara
Gamma?

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:09 pm
by Varsoon
3 of these have to be scum:

Nancy Drew 39
Gamma Emerald
Dunnstral
Untrod Tripod
Chara
PenguinPower

It's basically an informed 50/50
Kokichi, you're talking like we lose here but if we lynch a scum and shoot a scum, we win instantly.
Scum only win if they get to equal our numbers or more
So if we mislynch, we STILL get another day so long as Arthur DOES NOT SHOOT.

I don't think Nancy's scum.

Can someone collect all the Merlin claims and hypoclaims?
We can parse pretty easily from those if scum actually know who Merlin is, right?

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:09 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 2801, Varsoon wrote:Ya'll. We don't need to be antagonizing each other here.
That's how we had the situation we had on D1.

Nancy, I don't know that I've ever seen you use a swear. Take a breath.
What? Chill :lol:

Me and Kokichi aren’t fighting here. At least, that’s not how it looks to me.

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:10 pm
by Varsoon
Okay, I was starting to worry.
I've been kinda hyper-sensitive to people's rhetoric in games since I caught a signup ban.

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:11 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 2805, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 2801, Varsoon wrote:Ya'll. We don't need to be antagonizing each other here.
That's how we had the situation we had on D1.

Nancy, I don't know that I've ever seen you use a swear. Take a breath.
What? Chill :lol:

Me and Kokichi aren’t fighting here. At least, that’s not how it looks to me.
You want to see “antagonizing”, check out Wisdom and me in YGM.

lolololol

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:12 pm
by Kokichi Oma
In post 2804, Varsoon wrote:We can parse pretty easily from those if scum actually know who Merlin is, right?
Scum's reads have been as bad as mine

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:14 pm
by Varsoon
Why do you think that is?
What's the scum comp if they're unable to parse this kind of a puzzle?

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:16 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 2806, Varsoon wrote:Okay, I was starting to worry.
I've been kinda hyper-sensitive to people's rhetoric in games since I caught a signup ban.

Yeah, I saw. Some games get heated. Like you won’t see me calling anyone a “jerk” (waves to UT, :P )or anything.

I’m sorry Kokichi. Please excuse my vernacular.

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:20 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 2804, Varsoon wrote:3 of these have to be scum:

Nancy Drew 39
Gamma Emerald
Dunnstral
Untrod Tripod
Chara
PenguinPower

It's basically an informed 50/50
Kokichi, you're talking like we lose here but if we lynch a scum and shoot a scum, we win instantly.
Scum only win if they get to equal our numbers or more
So if we mislynch, we STILL get another day so long as Arthur DOES NOT SHOOT.

I don't think Nancy's scum.

Can someone collect all the Merlin claims and hypoclaims?
We can parse pretty easily from those if scum actually know who Merlin is, right?
Maybe figure out who’s town might be easier than scum?

Oh I forgot UT on my list.

Dunn is the towniest of the lot.

Maybe UT is scum?

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:25 pm
by Varsoon
I really, really wish Chara or UT would get in game.

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:14 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 2781, FakeGod wrote:
VoteCount 3.1


Not Known 15 [7] - SirCakez, PenguinPower, Dunnstral, Nancy Drew 39, Kokichi Oma, Auro, MariaR [LYNCH]

SirCakez [0] -

Not Voting [5]
- Varsoon, Gamma Emerald, Not Known 15, Untrod Tripod, Chara

With 12 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-12-19 14:00:00)
Hmmm, other than Varsoon, do we have out scumteam or did they bus?

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:19 pm
by Dunnstral
It's not lylo if Arthur doesn't shoot fyi

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:22 pm
by Dunnstral
And considering that this game will never go below 5 people from the mechanics, arthur not shooting is probably the best strat here as it puts us at 7 alive -> 5 alive instead of 6 alive -> game over

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:34 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
Town


me

Kokichi
Maria

Varsoon

Dunn

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So, are scum all below this line?

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:37 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 2816, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
Town


me

Kokichi
Maria

Varsoon

Dunn

——————————————-

So, are scum all below this line?
Actually, only 2 of Penguin, Chara and Gamma, UT can be scum.

So, which ones should we hurt?

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:56 pm
by Gamma Emerald
?

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:12 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
Who do you think is scum here Gamma?

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:30 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Idk rn
I wanna look at who was on the lynch wagons soon

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:31 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Actually not as much
Forgot we got a scumflip yesterdey for a second
Still a good idea tbh

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:08 am
by Kokichi Oma
Uh what

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:43 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 112, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 56, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 54, Varsoon wrote:LL coming out hot with the reads.
What makes Nancy and UT town?
Why is mechanical talk scummy in an open setup?
If I was scum and you asked me to bus-gladiate, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
In post 39, Auro wrote:Throwing out a thought:
If scum claims Excalibur, they die immediately.
Town can vote on someone to claim Excalibur for the day. ONLY that person claims at night. If they're scum it remains unclaimed, lynch next day. If there's a claim treat them like an IC the next day.
Kill resolves before claim. Yes, we'd effectively gate the scum kill but we'd also render the setup as 13-4 mountainous.
But I think you're right in that we could effectively use the sword claiming as a one-shot cop, but, again, that renders the bulletproof aspect of it kind of useless.

@MOD: If Merlin dies and flips, does Arthur's identity get revealed with the flip?
Can Merlin claim Excalibur?
Tone on both. It's what I expect from them.

It's not that we can't talk mechanics. Mechanics is NAI. It's that talking mechanics and using them to smother other interactions that generate reads + create "content" for scummy players is scumsided. Explained in a prior post, happy to explain again.

Crossbus Gladiates are inherently bad for scum due to the White Flag rule. If one scum remains, they concede. Bussing is far more likely to create a single scum surviving scenario, and eventually scum need to leave associatives, which means bussing is bad, especially day 1.
On this: I think bussing in general is less effective at furthering scum’s goals than creating an association with a town player. In Children of Hurin, I let the association between Nero and me fester, and that caused the game winning mislynch to happen, though Town wasn’t winning towards the end anyway.
In post 2120, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2119, MariaR wrote:nk15 post wasn't bad but...how the fuck did he know all that shit given he just replaced in is my question
Now that I’m out of my “fuck everything” state I think this is a good point
I caught scum!Wisdom with this exact thing in a kinda old game so I think we may be onto something.
Okay, I think Gamma is town here.

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:59 am
by MariaR
I should've just shot UT but I had to be a hero ayyy