It's basically an informed 50/50
Kokichi, you're talking like we lose here but if we lynch a scum and shoot a scum, we win instantly.
Scum only win if they get to equal our numbers or more
So if we mislynch, we STILL get another day so long as Arthur DOES NOT SHOOT.
I don't think Nancy's scum.
Can someone collect all the Merlin claims and hypoclaims?
We can parse pretty easily from those if scum actually know who Merlin is, right?
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:09 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 2801, Varsoon wrote:Ya'll. We don't need to be antagonizing each other here.
That's how we had the situation we had on D1.
Nancy, I don't know that I've ever seen you use a swear. Take a breath.
What? Chill
Me and Kokichi aren’t fighting here. At least, that’s not how it looks to me.
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:10 pm
by Varsoon
Okay, I was starting to worry.
I've been kinda hyper-sensitive to people's rhetoric in games since I caught a signup ban.
It's basically an informed 50/50
Kokichi, you're talking like we lose here but if we lynch a scum and shoot a scum, we win instantly.
Scum only win if they get to equal our numbers or more
So if we mislynch, we STILL get another day so long as Arthur DOES NOT SHOOT.
I don't think Nancy's scum.
Can someone collect all the Merlin claims and hypoclaims?
We can parse pretty easily from those if scum actually know who Merlin is, right?
Maybe figure out who’s town might be easier than scum?
Oh I forgot UT on my list.
Dunn is the towniest of the lot.
Maybe UT is scum?
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:25 pm
by Varsoon
I really, really wish Chara or UT would get in game.
Hmmm, other than Varsoon, do we have out scumteam or did they bus?
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:19 pm
by Dunnstral
It's not lylo if Arthur doesn't shoot fyi
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:22 pm
by Dunnstral
And considering that this game will never go below 5 people from the mechanics, arthur not shooting is probably the best strat here as it puts us at 7 alive -> 5 alive instead of 6 alive -> game over
In post 54, Varsoon wrote:LL coming out hot with the reads.
What makes Nancy and UT town?
Why is mechanical talk scummy in an open setup?
If I was scum and you asked me to bus-gladiate, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
In post 39, Auro wrote:Throwing out a thought:
If scum claims Excalibur, they die immediately.
Town can vote on someone to claim Excalibur for the day. ONLY that person claims at night. If they're scum it remains unclaimed, lynch next day. If there's a claim treat them like an IC the next day.
Kill resolves before claim. Yes, we'd effectively gate the scum kill but we'd also render the setup as 13-4 mountainous.
But I think you're right in that we could effectively use the sword claiming as a one-shot cop, but, again, that renders the bulletproof aspect of it kind of useless.
@MOD: If Merlin dies and flips, does Arthur's identity get revealed with the flip?
Can Merlin claim Excalibur?
Tone on both. It's what I expect from them.
It's not that we can't talk mechanics. Mechanics is NAI. It's that talking mechanics and using them to smother other interactions that generate reads + create "content" for scummy players is scumsided. Explained in a prior post, happy to explain again.
Crossbus Gladiates are inherently bad for scum due to the White Flag rule. If one scum remains, they concede. Bussing is far more likely to create a single scum surviving scenario, and eventually scum need to leave associatives, which means bussing is bad, especially day 1.
On this: I think bussing in general is less effective at furthering scum’s goals than creating an association with a town player. In Children of Hurin, I let the association between Nero and me fester, and that caused the game winning mislynch to happen, though Town wasn’t winning towards the end anyway.
In post 2119, MariaR wrote:nk15 post wasn't bad but...how the fuck did he know all that shit given he just replaced in is my question
Now that I’m out of my “fuck everything” state I think this is a good point
I caught scum!Wisdom with this exact thing in a kinda old game so I think we may be onto something.
Okay, I think Gamma is town here.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:59 am
by MariaR
I should've just shot UT but I had to be a hero ayyy