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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:01 am
by Morality
In post 2796, Something_Smart wrote:There's... 4 scum?
Yes, now get off of me. I was going to wait until it was lylo because I expected scum to make some kind of play and I’d come out catching them that way.

I lied about the Loyal modifier thing.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:02 am
by Morality
In post 2799, Something_Smart wrote:I kind of want to lynch you now just because if we're actually playing a 9:4 game then our loss will be the fault of whoever said this was balanced.
This is a terrible reasoning.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:03 am
by Something_Smart
I am not gambiting.

It doesn't mean you are necessarily ascetic, for instance if I was roleblocked. I guess if anyone wants to claim to have blocked me, now is the time...?

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:03 am
by Morality
And there’s a Cop/IC/Disloyal Babysitter, and it’s 3.5 because of a traitor.

So there’s a lot of Inno/Guilty stuff.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:04 am
by Something_Smart
UNVOTE:
I guess it's fair to unvote to give people time to talk about it. You are the lynch though.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:05 am
by YellowSnow
There's no scum claim if anyone is scum here it's Smart.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:06 am
by Something_Smart
In post 2803, Morality wrote:And there’s a Cop/IC/Disloyal Babysitter, and it’s 3.5 because of a traitor.

So there’s a lot of Inno/Guilty stuff.
Not really at all. Creature's role would get a total of one result. RCE would only get a result if he died and even then only one.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:08 am
by Morality
In post 2806, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2803, Morality wrote:And there’s a Cop/IC/Disloyal Babysitter, and it’s 3.5 because of a traitor.

So there’s a lot of Inno/Guilty stuff.
Not really at all. Creature's role would get a total of one result. RCE would only get a result if he died and even then only one.
I mean, you have a role apparently. I’m sure there are more.

I imagine town to be pretty heavy.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:09 am
by Morality
To be fair, NK15 games are insane. He had 3 multitasking JOATS in his last one.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:11 am
by Something_Smart
In post 2801, Morality wrote:
In post 2799, Something_Smart wrote:I kind of want to lynch you now just because if we're actually playing a 9:4 game then our loss will be the fault of whoever said this was balanced.
This is a terrible reasoning.
9:4 mini normal is so shitty and I will have words for NK15 and the reviewers if it's true. I'd rather focus on the possibility that this is actually a decent game, because I'd happily give up the chance of winning an awful setup for a better chance of winning a good one.

And my role isn't very strong.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:12 am
by Vorkuta
I blink again and this happens

So does anyone else have role stuff/night actions that someone would like to share with us?

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:12 am
by Morality
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=77628

Here was his last game I played in. He does crazy normal games.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:13 am
by Morality
In post 2809, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2801, Morality wrote:
In post 2799, Something_Smart wrote:I kind of want to lynch you now just because if we're actually playing a 9:4 game then our loss will be the fault of whoever said this was balanced.
This is a terrible reasoning.
9:4 mini normal is so shitty and I will have words for NK15 and the reviewers if it's true. I'd rather focus on the possibility that this is actually a decent game, because I'd happily give up the chance of winning an awful setup for a better chance of winning a good one.

And my role isn't very strong.
Don’t give up winning an awful setup...win it. Come on, man

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:14 am
by Something_Smart
His last game was 15:4.

You're saying this is 9:4. That's not in the same league of crazy at all.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:14 am
by Vorkuta
I don't see how smart gets away with such a gambit this early in the game though, Morality.
One day later? Yes- but now?

You're going to have to spoonfeed me otherwise...

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:15 am
by Something_Smart
In post 2812, Morality wrote:Don’t give up winning an awful setup...win it. Come on, man
Now you seem convinced that I'm town...?

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:16 am
by Morality
I’m also informed about another player being informed, but I’d rather not bring that up.

Earlier in this game, I brought up the likelihood of this game being a lot of informed roles.

RCE was also informed.

In a way, traitor is informed.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:17 am
by Morality
In post 2813, Something_Smart wrote:His last game was 15:4.

You're saying this is 9:4. That's not in the same league of crazy at all.
I was talking about role wise.

I’ve been crumbing I was informed for a while, though. ScumMe doesn’t have any reason to give that out.

And if I’m lying, I can be caught out if the game doesn’t end.

Zero scum motivation. That’s the most anti scum thing ever, and I don’t play anti scum as scum.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:17 am
by Morality
In post 2815, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2812, Morality wrote:Don’t give up winning an awful setup...win it. Come on, man
Now you seem convinced that I'm town...?
No, I’d want you to win as scum if you’re scum. You not hard tunneling is a little townie, sure, but I was hard tunneled on Shoshin.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:19 am
by Vorkuta
In post 2817, Morality wrote:I’ve been crumbing I was informed for a while
Too much text to read through and pick up on those crumbs.
What happened to being an
ascetic
miller?

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:19 am
by Morality
In post 2814, Vorkuta wrote:I don't see how smart gets away with such a gambit this early in the game though, Morality.
One day later? Yes- but now?

You're going to have to spoonfeed me otherwise...
If scum get a mislynch, they only need one more afterwards. They have 3 scum left.

It’s not as early as it seems.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:19 am
by Morality
In post 2819, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 2817, Morality wrote:I’ve been crumbing I was informed for a while
Too much text to read through and pick up on those crumbs.
What happened to being an
ascetic
miller?
I’m an Informed Miller.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:22 am
by Something_Smart
In post 2817, Morality wrote:Zero scum motivation. That’s the most anti scum thing ever, and I don’t play anti scum as scum.
Would you deny that, from my point of view here, if you are scum, you're absolutely playing to survive as long as possible?

If I actually got a guilty on you, there's no way you endgame. So your motivation would just be to survive as long as you possibly could and sow confusion in the meantime.

Do you see how this makes sense from my point of view?

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:23 am
by Morality
In post 2822, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2817, Morality wrote:Zero scum motivation. That’s the most anti scum thing ever, and I don’t play anti scum as scum.
Would you deny that, from my point of view here, if you are scum, you're absolutely playing to survive as long as possible?

If I actually got a guilty on you, there's no way you endgame. So your motivation would just be to survive as long as you possibly could and sow confusion in the meantime.

Do you see how this makes sense from my point of view?
Sure, but I’m town, so I know that’s not the case. I’m probably inno’d town as well.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:24 am
by Morality
Do you understand from my perspective why your slot looks near lock scum to me?

If you’re town, what would you like me to do to show you that I’m town?