DGB- come on over to the walter wagon. it's gaining traction.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:45 am
by pisskop
Im down for it
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:07 am
by a2rudeboy
NPOM isn't happening.
Lav isn't happening.
Looker is at S-1 anyways.
It's gonna be looker or walter.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:11 am
by a2rudeboy
People had votes down / suspicion on Walter througout the game. We've been at what, near a week for a replacement? Anyone who comes in, unlesss they've been following the whole time, is probably not going to do a full catch-up. The loss of this slot in the next day or so seems inevitable to me anyways.
If looker is sus, he will only get more so by lasting another day.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:19 am
by pisskop
Or he'll be a lightning rod tonight and it will be hilarious. VOTE: walter
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:28 am
by chkflip
If this isn't a stereotypical "wash my hands" lynch.
Holy fuck.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:39 am
by a2rudeboy
In post 2804, pisskop wrote:Or he'll be a lightning rod tonight and it will be hilarious. VOTE: walter
Sir, I admire your style.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:22 am
by Almost50
In post 2800, a2rudeboy wrote:DGB- come on over to the walter wagon. it's gaining traction.
Call me crazy. But the reason I came back to this site after ten years was to actually PLAY some Mafia. This is a large extent to why I've actively pursued a lynch/replace all lurkers strategy, or tried to prod lurkers by building wagons on them..
I'd rather not wait an indeterminable amount of time for a replace that might never come along.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:09 am
by a2rudeboy
More information benefits town.
More people actively playing, benefits town.
In post 2763, Looker wrote:I'm surprised more people haven't chimed in on whether or not they believe my claim.
Personally, I do. I just think it's best if we eliminated a VT than force a PR to claim. Playing it safe, I guess.
In my experience, many a player act weird/scummy when they get a PR role. That doesn't mean everyone acting scummy is a PR, but it used to be a problem for me when I started playing Mafia and stayed that way for a while that whenever I received a PR role I'd be MUCH more suspected than when I was a VT. Even after I've learnt to adjust my play, I still couldn't help but suspect OTHER players acting weird, and then finding out the reason was they were PRs not scum.
So, let's put this all together: You were scummy to me (or I wouldn't have voted you in the first place). Them you claimed VT (which doesn't really explain why you were acting scummy to begin with). So the way I see it is if you are a VT 9and I have reason to think you might be) it's no big loss. If you are NOT (minor chance of that) then you are still SCUM who is faking to try and survive.
The alternative is to push/wagon someone else who appears to be acting scummy, force them to claim and go "Oh, SHIT! They're <Insert your favourite PR here> and THAT explains why they appeared to be acting scummy. Oh, well.. let's move on). Do you like this last scenario better??
VOTE: Looker
I still don’t like the circumstances of the wagon but I’ll go with a50 on this
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:09 am
by davesaz
Gamma, what's your read on Walter?
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:17 am
by Doctor Drew
Why Walter over NPOM though?
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:27 am
by Gamma Emerald
I have had Walter kinda muted this whole time tbh, so I don’t have any opinion on him
But to get into cracktheorizing, a scumteam with Walter in it should be pitching a fit by now, so I think Walter is town via that
I mean, if you are VT you claim VT(someone correct me if I am wrong).
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:44 am
by davesaz
In post 2815, Gamma Emerald wrote:I have had Walter kinda muted this whole time tbh, so I don’t have any opinion on him
But to get into cracktheorizing, a scumteam with Walter in it should be pitching a fit by now, so I think Walter is town via that
Earlier you said you didn't want to vote Looker. What changed your mind to vote now?
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:44 am
by pisskop
I dont think its reasonable to claim VT early, unless you expect the game to be mega-powered.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:45 am
by Bambi Jay
Eh. I nearly always fake claim anyway so VT is the claim I rarely use. Honestly only claim it in an Open game tbh.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:45 am
by davesaz
In post 2819, pisskop wrote:I dont think its reasonable to claim VT early, unless you expect the game to be mega-powered.
By early to you mean before being shred-1?
Are you trying to suggest fake claiming non-vanilla to save yourself?
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:47 am
by pisskop
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:48 am
by davesaz
Also @Gamma how significant do you think your most recent vote is?
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:54 pm
by NoPowerOverMe
My point is that if claiming VT will lead to your elim why would you do it?