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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:56 pm
by skitter30
at least 3 or 4 people have called both me and galron scummy
i'm confused why many of those people are complaining about ss while not trying to wagon someone else who is potentially viable

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:56 pm
by Cephrir
In post 2797, skitter30 wrote:i don't get it, how is me *not* voting ss a problem wrt your ss scumread
ive been feeling like this is positioning for his townflip

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:57 pm
by Cephrir
In post 2799, skitter30 wrote:
In post 2785, Cephrir wrote:
In post 2782, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:uh if SS is so high on your readslist why aren't you trying to save him at all?
The fuck do you think I'm doing?
why are you not, like, trying to wagon galron or something
ill be honest with you

i dont really know how to start a wagon

im not usually that kind of girl

i'm trying to take the temperature of the room and so far it seems like most everyone wants me to shut up and go back to the corner while we kill SS

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:58 pm
by Cephrir
but like also my vote has been on galron all day

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:59 pm
by skitter30
i spent most of eod yesteday trying to get him flipped, why would i not continue that today exactly

pedit well good then

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:59 pm
by Cephrir
kyouko and i are practically historical at this point. we go way back. we met at vc 2.3. it was beautiful.

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:04 pm
by Cephrir
In post 2804, skitter30 wrote:i spent most of eod yesteday trying to get him flipped, why would i not continue that today exactly

pedit well good then
well, i'd think you might have a second thought in light of the flip, but since that is not the path you've chosen and clearly nothing i've been posting around it has been persuasive to you:

so kill him with your own two hands then, instead of posting stuff like , that seems to expect him to flip town and accept no blame for it

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:05 pm
by Cephrir
im not sure if that post makes sense i feel like im not fully understanding your stance/trajectory here

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:08 pm
by skitter30
my stance is that i'm not 100% sure he's scum anymore but he isn't like ~cooperative~ if town and the game is going to be fixated on him until he gets flipped and/or cleared, so if he isn't going to change it up we should just do that and move on tomorrow

i support the wagon and will accept some measure of blame for it if he is indeed town, but i'm basically saying it's the best thing to do for the game overall at this point, even if he is town

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:11 pm
by Cephrir
"not 100% sure he's scum" or "think he's town" bc you were leaning towards town not long ago

you know what could get the game focused on something else? a scum flip

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:11 pm
by Cephrir
actually i guess we got one of those and the game did not change

should we just elim every game from least to most charisma irrespective of game events

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:12 pm
by Cephrir
i guess it makes sense, scumteams lately just suck and give up so i can't blame anyone for thinking that's just gonna happen every time.

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:13 pm
by Ydrasse
if i was on the scum team we'd be 100% unstoppable

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:13 pm
by Cephrir
do we just not reassess when we get information now?

so weird.

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:15 pm
by skitter30
or another way of saying it:

imagine we flip town today. who exactly do you think is goign to be everyone's favorite flip tomorrow? what, if anything, do you think is going to change that dynamic

i'm kinda having a hard time believing you don't understand my point

i also think that your last line in is a loaded question

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:16 pm
by skitter30
if it's an inevitable flip i just think we should do it now isntead of wasting like 3 gamephases getting stuck on this

and ngl i think most of your content today is scummy
VOTE: ceph

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:18 pm
by Cephrir
In post 2814, skitter30 wrote:or another way of saying it:

imagine we flip town today. who exactly do you think is goign to be everyone's favorite flip tomorrow? what, if anything, do you think is going to change that dynamic
so you don't think players ever change course?
In post 2814, skitter30 wrote:i'm kinda having a hard time believing you don't understand my point

i also think that your last line in is a loaded question
i understand your point now i just don't agree

it's a rhetorical question yes those are typically loaded

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:19 pm
by skitter30
In post 2816, Cephrir wrote:so you don't think players ever change course?
oh hey another loaded question that doesn't actually address my point

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:19 pm
by Cephrir
In post 2815, skitter30 wrote:if it's an inevitable flip i just think we should do it now isntead of wasting like 3 gamephases getting stuck on this

and ngl i think most of your content today is scummy
VOTE: ceph
incredible. truly. i put some scrutiny on you and now the ss elim is not inevitable anymore i guess and you've thrown your own point out the window. i don't believe that's a real thought process.

VOTE: skitter

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:19 pm
by skitter30
In post 2814, skitter30 wrote:imagine we flip town today. who exactly do you think is goign to be everyone's favorite flip tomorrow? what, if anything, do you think is going to change that dynamic
i want an answer to this ^

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:20 pm
by Cephrir
In post 2817, skitter30 wrote:
In post 2816, Cephrir wrote:so you don't think players ever change course?
oh hey another loaded question that doesn't actually address my point
it... does though??? you're arguing that no matter what happens today the outcome of tomorrow will be the same, are you not? how is that not literally what you just implied?

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:21 pm
by skitter30
In post 2818, Cephrir wrote:
In post 2815, skitter30 wrote:if it's an inevitable flip i just think we should do it now isntead of wasting like 3 gamephases getting stuck on this

and ngl i think most of your content today is scummy
VOTE: ceph
incredible. truly. i put some scrutiny on you and
now the ss elim is not inevitable anymore i guess and you've thrown your own point out the window
. i don't believe that's a real thought process.

VOTE: skitter
uh do you actaully think my vote is gonna make you flipped over ss here?
because taht's the only way the bolded eve makes sense as an accusation

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:21 pm
by Infinity 324
i've decided i like ceph actually

his agenda if scum is kinda ??? and his thoughts feel organic

enchant flipping scum didn't give me useful info tbh since there aren't many interactions to look and and idk if scum would bus there or not, they may have thought it was inevitable or maybe not

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:21 pm
by skitter30
In post 2820, Cephrir wrote:
In post 2817, skitter30 wrote:
In post 2816, Cephrir wrote:so you don't think players ever change course?
oh hey another loaded question that doesn't actually address my point
it... does though??? you're arguing that no matter what happens today the outcome of tomorrow will be the same, are you not? how is that not literally what you just implied?
imagine we flip town-dgb, for the purposes of this conversation
do you think the scruitiny on ss and the desire to flip him will go away tomorrow y/n?

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:22 pm
by Cephrir
In post 2819, skitter30 wrote:
In post 2814, skitter30 wrote:imagine we flip town today. who exactly do you think is goign to be everyone's favorite flip tomorrow? what, if anything, do you think is going to change that dynamic
i want an answer to this ^
i thought it was a rhetorical question but okay

DGB, probably? Or me? What could change that dynamic... a compelling case, I guess? The events of that day which players are responding to? Or the more general "some good points" which is what i'm trying to do right now?