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I ended up skimming through g5/g6/l5 anyway

This is me throwing in my support for lynching Gentleman 5

VOTE: Gent 5/Lady 4

Look G6 I'll be real, I am reading G5 now

And it's hard because everything I see or don't I worry is subconsciously colored by the fact that I really really don't want you to suicide

But when it comes to G5, the thing that jumps out in his ISO as definitively bad is his read on G3, specifically his push that G3 is "survivalist scum" for what reads as quite a transparent evaluation of the merits of Ladies he could ask and his own position in the game (his assumption that the remaining, very low-activity gentlemen wouldn't be allowed to see late game, so he needed to consider late game viability of his partner, as though he were the last gent to pick). That shade from G5 continued way past the point that I felt G3 had fully clarified his approach, which I straight-up Townread. So. And this:

In post 1905, Gentleman 5 wrote:At this point I hope G6 flips scum because hes acting like a hardheaded dick.

(Ate ate ate)

L4: if you plan on suiciding, better make sure they go first.

Yeah, also not a good look on G5 considering his consistent stated Townread on you. And honestly even though much of the game is still opaque to me, those are reason enough to prioritize lynching G5 over letting you carry out your suicide threat. So you have an intent from me, I'm on mobile, there are two votes on G5(/L4) right now?

Thanks. Mod!

VOTE: Gentleman 5 (+Lady 4)

In post 2826, Lady 2 wrote:But when it comes to G5, the thing that jumps out in his ISO as definitively bad is his read on G3

Yeah, this is my main issue with him as well. It seemed to me as though he pegged me as an easy target and wasn't expecting me to offer an actual explanation for what I was doing.

Fair.

I just think given the gamestate, we needed gentlemen to start picking sooner rather than later.

L2 you are aware that G6 is partnered with my main scumread right?

Yes I'm aware

I'm going to try to read L8 better. And I'm interested in what L4 thinks of you as things go on and you two share a private topic. Still and all.

In post 2830, Gentleman 5 wrote:Fair.

I just think given the gamestate, we needed gentlemen to start picking sooner rather than later.

You treated it (shaded it?) as scum-motivated behavior though, including G3's evaluations of what the pros of each Lady he could invite? This wasn't just a matter of you telling G3 to get on with it. You basically said that you found the specific manner in which he was not getting on with it scummy.

In post 2830, Gentleman 5 wrote:I just think given the gamestate, we needed gentlemen to start picking sooner rather than later.

The disagreement of opinion wasn't the problem. The problem was that you were pushing your own imagined motive for my actions while ignoring me explaining the actual motive.

Which is why I said it’s a fine point. I jumped to conclusions and was too hasty with getting the game going.

I’m still thinking this game more based on the individual than the pairing.


It’s a better case than what G8 has brought to the table and whatever the hell L9 is doing.

Can I ask her to clarify her statement and vote please

I know L5 explained to me shading, Im assuming its the same as “casting Suspicion”

I think its healthy for a paranoid townie, but given Ive apparently done it to two people who are mainly townread, I can understand why its scummy.

wow look at him playing the reasonable townie now that he's under pressure.

thinking...

In post 2741, Lady 3 wrote:You haven't answered my question.

why are you okay with suiciding yourself and g6 if you don't trust town?

Because I'm stubborn.

VOTE: G5

Lets do this.

In post 2834, Gentleman 5 wrote:Which is why I said it’s a fine point. I jumped to conclusions and was too hasty with getting the game going.

I’m still thinking this game more based on the individual than the pairing.


It’s a better case than what G8 has brought to the table and whatever the hell L9 is doing.

Can I ask her to clarify her statement and vote please

G6 btw, not G8.

VOTE: Gentleman 8

I am not encouraging this pissing match unless I got no choice.

man this game is going to be awful until both l5 and g5 are gone does the order really matter

In post 2841, Lady 6 wrote:VOTE: Gentleman 8

I am not encouraging this pissing match unless I got no choice.

In post 2842, Gentleman 6 wrote:man this game is going to be awful until both l5 and g5 are gone does the order really matter

I think it does.

Unless you think the 4 of us are town, we really should deal with this first. Theres alot to digest between our iso’s, I feel we are stemming some information from this. Stalling is going to hurt town’s apathy towards us.

Lynch one of us first, then speedlynch L5/G8, theres nothing that pair is going to say that keeps them alive past intermission.

G6 humor me for a bit if you can:

I die, we flip town-town. Ignoring L5/G8 slot, what is your next move.
You die, both of you flip town. Ignoring L5/G8 slot and in the perspective that I am town, what should my next move be.

reconsider the way that you've played the game regardless of your alignment?

Can you tell me who is scum if my pair is TT?

If not, can you tell me its because you dont want to out that info yet or you just dont know at this time?

In post 2844, Gentleman 5 wrote: You die, both of you flip town. Ignoring L5/G8 slot and in the perspective that I am town, what should my next move be.

Think about why you think death tunneling one slot and constantly nagging every player "Hey I know you got reads but what about L8 and why is she scum?" to everyone.

You've spent more of the game antagonizing and harassing a player that you have claimed to townread than you've spent doing anything else.
If you're somehow town who thought that this was the correct procedure in this situation then I hope you get lynched over and over again in situations like this until you never do this again.

Dude I am not reading for not you scum because I can't stand this game even to the point of trying to scumhunt anymore.

In post 2847, Lady 8 wrote:

In post 2844, Gentleman 5 wrote: You die, both of you flip town. Ignoring L5/G8 slot and in the perspective that I am town, what should my next move be.

Think about why you think death tunneling one slot and constantly nagging every player "Hey I know you got reads but what about L8 and why is she scum?" to everyone.

*to everyone is a bad idea