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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:10 pm
by OkaPoka
auro why are you defending eddie so hard

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:11 pm
by Alchemist21
In post 2823, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 2822, Auro wrote:
In post 2819, OkaPoka wrote:so why does eddie ask to be lynched btw ?
Have you never heard rhetoric that goes, "lynch me so I can get out of the game pls"?

What's the scum motivation in saying that?
look at me im so town
Are scum ever so blatantly LAMIST though?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:11 pm
by OkaPoka
your progression with me in this past page seriously indicates that you are confident in eddie being town and was never open to me trying to convince you otherwise

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:11 pm
by Alchemist21
In post 2825, OkaPoka wrote:auro why are you defending eddie so hard
It's not just Auro. And I want Auro lynched.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:12 pm
by OkaPoka
In post 2826, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 2823, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 2822, Auro wrote:
In post 2819, OkaPoka wrote:so why does eddie ask to be lynched btw ?
Have you never heard rhetoric that goes, "lynch me so I can get out of the game pls"?

What's the scum motivation in saying that?
look at me im so town
Are scum ever so blatantly LAMIST though?
lamist is literally my favorite play

ive also been called out on it so many times

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:15 pm
by Auro
In post 2821, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 2813, Auro wrote:Alchemist, I acknowledge that waiting till the last minute to case, if everyone's voting for you because of the case, is bad. When I say waiting, why assume that I'm waiting for deadline and not any other point of the day?
Because there were 4 days remaining in the deadline at the time and the longer you waited the more likely it would happen. I know you didn't explicitly say you were going to wait that long but it's the possibility I saw and I wanted to nip it in the bud. If you have a case then why wait to post it at all? (And don't tell me that your "guilty" is your case.)
You were not only assuming that I'd wait till deadline, but also that a majority of town wouldn't care, and also that I wasn't understanding what you said and would still wait till deadline.

Is this the first instance you see of someone claiming a case but not posting it immediately?

>See how the attacked slot reacts (do they think I'm softing a guilty? for one, and if so, even better)
>See how others react to the sudden hard change in momentum (do they try to divert the lynch to someone else? Do they chainsaw or hard defend? Who sheeps me onto him?)
>Talking about the case could be something I find less productive before I see what happens, as the case itself becomes a major talking point presumably for a few pages

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:15 pm
by Auro
In post 2825, OkaPoka wrote:auro why are you defending eddie so hard
Because I townread him.
I defend my townreads from getting lynched.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:17 pm
by OkaPoka
In post 2801, Auro wrote:
In post 2798, OkaPoka wrote:a vote on eddie cane

what kind of question is that
Huh. I thought it was a part of trying to form a read on me, not manipulation to try and lynch Eddie.

I think Eddie is town. Please show me not just why he's scum, but why he's the best lynch for today.
so this post was bait so you could explain your townread on eddie?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:17 pm
by Auro
Sorry Oka, but my refusal to be convinced by surface/weak reasoning does not mean I can't be convinced at all ;)

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:18 pm
by OkaPoka
auro level with me

that post was bait and you know it

what would i hypothetically have to show for you to vote eddie?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:18 pm
by Auro
In post 2832, OkaPoka wrote:so this post was bait so you could explain your townread on eddie?
I don't get the question. My post was asking you why you think he should be lynched. Why would I need to be baited to explain why I think Eddie is town?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:19 pm
by Auro
In post 2834, OkaPoka wrote:what would i hypothetically have to show for you to vote eddie?
A convincing justification.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:19 pm
by Luna Fox
VOTE: Auro

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:20 pm
by OkaPoka
what would this convincing justification need to be?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:20 pm
by OkaPoka
like hypothetically what would i have to prove on eddie

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:22 pm
by Auro
Also, note that I already posted that it's surprising no one had asked me why I townread Eddie. :P
OkaPoka wrote:what would this convincing justification need to be?
I don't think there is any convincing justification that he should be lynched, otherwise I'd be advocating for his lynch myself, yeah?

If you think otherwise it's up to you to show me that it exists.
OkaPoka wrote:like hypothetically what would i have to prove on eddie
Well, you could go the other route and show me why lynching someone like Alch, NSG, or even iDanyBoi, is worse than lynching Eddie.

You could talk me out of those scumreads for a start.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:23 pm
by Auro
I think we should get a deadline extension given RCE's still yet to be replaced, Schadd.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:24 pm
by OkaPoka
In post 2817, Auro wrote:
In post 2811, OkaPoka wrote:im saying his specific tonal change indicates scummy mentality

like you know ive always cared about this game and am survivalistic

eddie is just playing the game of "im not survivalistic lol" and then once he gets wagon'd suddenly he goes to town on how much he is town and look at me im so town? im not buying that
That feels like a very surface level read to form for Eddie, Oka.
Having-fun Eddie still recognizes the basic duty of avoiding being a mislynch. He acknowledged that explicitly.

Also, damned if he does, damned if he doesn't, no? You were still pushing for his lynch when he wasn't playing to survival at lynch range.
like this is not the post someone makes who is "open" to having their minds changed

this is the post of someone who is confident in eddie being town

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:25 pm
by Alchemist21
In post 2830, Auro wrote:>See how the attacked slot reacts (do they think I'm softing a guilty? for one, and if so, even better)
What do you expect to happen? Nobody thought you were softing a guilty so what else?
>See how others react to the sudden hard change in momentum (do they try to divert the lynch to someone else? Do they chainsaw or hard defend? Who sheeps me onto him?)
Why do you expect other slots to react when you haven't presented the case yet? If I'm scum my buddies aren't going come running to save me or bus me and if I'm Town then nobody's going to care.
>Talking about the case could be something I find less productive before I see what happens, as the case itself becomes a major talking point presumably for a few pages
If you have a case and say you have one then presumably you've done enough observing and are ready to make your case a talking point.

How did any of your reads develop from this?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:25 pm
by OkaPoka
In post 2840, Auro wrote:Also, note that I already posted that it's surprising no one had asked me why I townread Eddie. :P
OkaPoka wrote:what would this convincing justification need to be?
I don't think there is any convincing justification that he should be lynched, otherwise I'd be advocating for his lynch myself, yeah?

If you think otherwise it's up to you to show me that it exists.
OkaPoka wrote:like hypothetically what would i have to prove on eddie
Well, you could go the other route and show me why lynching someone like Alch, NSG, or even iDanyBoi, is worse than lynching Eddie.

You could talk me out of those scumreads for a start.
if you scumread nsg why aren;t you voting nsg ?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:26 pm
by Auro
That's the post someone makes who thinks your reasons are bad.

Also, yes, I'm reasonably confident he's town.

What's your point?

Pedit: Sure,
VOTE: NSG
Happy? :P

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:26 pm
by Alchemist21
In post 2837, Luna Fox wrote:VOTE: Auro
Thank you!

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:26 pm
by OkaPoka
HMMM

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:27 pm
by Eddie Cane
You can be confident on something and open to having your mind changed.

In fact, for me to consider you an intelligent person I'd consider that a required quality.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:27 pm
by OkaPoka
thanks for the implication eddie