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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:31 pm
by TheGoldenParadox
i'm 99% on mm scum and the 1% is if the scumteam includes mastina menal and titus and they're playing us like a fiddle

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:31 pm
by Titus
In post 2824, April Ludgate wrote:I personally think Morning Mage is bleeding town.

And you guys got one read right, so I definitely feel you are missing stuff on the other side.

That’s just how it works.
Go on.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:32 pm
by Morning Mage
In post 2818, Menalque wrote:
In post 2815, Morning Mage wrote:From what I recall, you are the slot in need of saving. Am I wrong?
I’ll break what I just said to speak very briefly to you, morning — no, I’m not. I never have been. Your other half has spewed you scum earlier but I’ll let him catch you up on that
In addition to everything that has been noted - I'd just emphasise the difference in your behaviour before the Gamma-elim, when you were very calm and comfortable, to after the Gamma-elim when you are suddenly much more defensive. And the fact he accidentally slipped that you're his scumbuddy. :lol:

Anyway I think I'm done for today:

Titus-Mastina-Menalque is the working solve. i'm fairly open-minded on where we start.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:33 pm
by April Ludgate
There’s literally no reason for him to post at you guys like this as scum.

You guys just have nothing better to do in twilight, and he’s pushing you guys, so you’re biased

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:33 pm
by Menalque
In post 2821, Titus wrote:
In post 2813, Menalque wrote:Titus it’s probably not worth it interacting with openwolfing scum

I mean, I’m aware of the hypocrisy

It’s just seeing you do it too is making me realise it’s not worth it
Fair enough. I am not 100% on MM scum, but I am sure enough where I'd vote if others did. I was hoping I could see a glimpse of town BM but :/
I am. This is close to as certain as I’ve been. Do you remember that newbie a while back with ducky!scum where he decided to 1v1 me and I was legit asking him if he wanted to be caught because he was so incredibly blatantly acting in bad faith and lying about what had happened in the game/about cheeky’s meta? It’s the same exact thing. The incredibly obvious lying and bad faith. I don’t think MM cares about getting caught provided they can get my flip first/i think they’re trying to provide cover for a buddy(ies?) which was more or less the reason why ducky decided to go for the 1v1 in that other game even tho he knew that winning would spew him scum

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:33 pm
by April Ludgate
And maybe I do start to see what he’s saying about Mastina.

I don’t think Menalque is scum or Titus, but you know, he might have a 1 in 3.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:34 pm
by April Ludgate
And Mastina’s possibly trying to pocket Menalque who is pushing me.

Mastina town read on Menalque is a way to push me without pushing me.

Yeah, Mastina’s scum.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:34 pm
by Menalque
I would worry about engaging you on this FL, if I needed you for numbers to get MM flipped tomorrow

But I don’t, so I’m not gonna bother

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:34 pm
by Titus
BM has a bad habit of creating made up worlds to justify town tunnels though as town. BM doesn't reconsider. That's just who BM is.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:34 pm
by superbowl9
Can't we all just get along for one twilight? Let's just play a happy family game of monopoly

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:35 pm
by April Ludgate
I’ll probably flip flop tomorrow tbh, don’t take that too seriously Mastina

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:35 pm
by Pickaxe Pete
In post 2711, Titus wrote:NorwegianboyEE, Menalque, samantha and BH were all counterwagons to Gamma. Is there anyone I am forgetting?
How far up did Morning Mage make it?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:35 pm
by Menalque
Oh yeh, mastina, if you see this before twilight ends — you’re at a high level of confidence that the mason millers are a real thing, yes?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:35 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 2832, Menalque wrote:I would worry about engaging you on this FL, if I needed you for numbers to get MM flipped tomorrow

But I don’t, so I’m not gonna bother
Overconfidence on Day 1 twilight.

Rookie mistake.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:36 pm
by Morning Mage
In post 2821, Titus wrote:
In post 2813, Menalque wrote:Titus it’s probably not worth it interacting with openwolfing scum

I mean, I’m aware of the hypocrisy

It’s just seeing you do it too is making me realise it’s not worth it
Fair enough. I am not 100% on MM scum, but I am sure enough where I'd vote if others did. I was hoping I could see a glimpse of town BM but :/
I don't believe you're trying Titus, because you're not listening to me. We've played together enough that you know my style as scum and town, and that the two are quite markedly different. I don't believe you are suddenly incapable of distinguishing them. Likewise, I know your style as scum and town, and the lack of direct communication TO me, makes me think you are scum here.

Plus, aside from all that, I don't know why Titus-town who was completely disengaged all day, suddenly gets very vexed about my slot for no reason after we flip scum.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:36 pm
by Titus
In post 2836, Pickaxe Pete wrote:
In post 2711, Titus wrote:NorwegianboyEE, Menalque, samantha and BH were all counterwagons to Gamma. Is there anyone I am forgetting?
How far up did Morning Mage make it?
I can make a note to check. I haven't started the VCA work yet.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:37 pm
by April Ludgate
A50 claims mason Miller like every game, and Mastina confirms the agreeance of Masons every game.

I was scum in Krazy Anime U pick and Elsa and her claimed masons, but Elsa was my partner, so I knew everything going on in Mastina’s play there.

It doesn’t make her scum by any means, but she goes along with Mason claims even if she thinks their fake.

I like that, though, as a playstyle trait.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:37 pm
by Morning Mage
In post 2825, TheGoldenParadox wrote:i'm 99% on mm scum and the 1% is if the scumteam includes mastina menal and titus and they're playing us like a fiddle
haha, 1% probably isnt far off on that as the perfect solve. it's probably more likely it's 2 out of the 3, plus somebody else.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:38 pm
by Menalque
In post 2838, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 2832, Menalque wrote:I would worry about engaging you on this FL, if I needed you for numbers to get MM flipped tomorrow

But I don’t, so I’m not gonna bother
Overconfidence on Day 1 twilight.

Rookie mistake.
Guess we’ll find out tomorrow

That would also maybe sting a little if it wasn’t for the shiny banner I have next to my name <3

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:39 pm
by TheGoldenParadox
i think april is town here but i also am completely confident that i cannot read fl in any case ever so i'll sheep better players than i on him

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:39 pm
by Morning Mage
In post 2833, Titus wrote:BM has a bad habit of creating made up worlds to justify town tunnels though as town. BM doesn't reconsider. That's just who BM is.
dude, regardless of whether you're scum or town here do me a favour and don't shit all over me. I sometimes do actually play well... :cry:

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:39 pm
by Titus
In post 2841, April Ludgate wrote:A50 claims mason Miller like every game, and Mastina confirms the agreeance of Masons every game.

I was scum in Krazy Anime U pick and Elsa and her claimed masons, but Elsa was my partner, so I knew everything going on in Mastina’s play there.

It doesn’t make her scum by any means, but she goes along with Mason claims even if she thinks their fake.

I like that, though, as a playstyle trait.
I partially agree. I don't believe in pushing mason claims, but I do believe in vetting them. Trust but verify.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:40 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
im like 50 pages behind at this point. ill try to catch up tomorrow, been real busy irl and have not had time to sit down and read this very long thread. im caught up to page 69. feel free to drop questions for me, ill answer asap.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:41 pm
by Morning Mage
In post 2843, Menalque wrote:
In post 2838, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 2832, Menalque wrote:I would worry about engaging you on this FL, if I needed you for numbers to get MM flipped tomorrow

But I don’t, so I’m not gonna bother
Overconfidence on Day 1 twilight.

Rookie mistake.
Guess we’ll find out tomorrow

That would also maybe sting a little if it wasn’t for the shiny banner I have next to my name <3
this is going to be really awkward for you Mena. What makes you this confident? Could you point out the scummiest post BM made? Or whatever it is that gave you your 100% confidence

pretty please? (>ω<)

~Morning

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:41 pm
by Menalque
FL is more likely town considering BM scum, but it’s not a locked in thing, he could be trying to WIFOM by defending two buddies in a row and then arguing that he’s too competent as scum to do something with such terrible optics

We flip MM tomorrow so it doesn’t matter, after a scumflip there we can work through some more PoE, if the game is struggling by lylo then FL is prob scum and would be a good elim at lylo-1