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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:06 am
by Andresvmb
In post 452, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 449, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 445, Nero Cain wrote:it wouldn't change much honestly. Sometimes scum vote each other to distance and it's not like nom stuck to the wagon. Are you implying that nom isn't scum b/c he voted rathe for a hot minute? eh, I guess you could make that argument.
Well he didn't just vote, he also pushed others to hop onto the wagon which had the potential to form something bigger. Point taken on him not sticking with it though.
Kyouko's just a better vote here considering the wagon and the pt stuff happening in thread
So much has happened in this game I just can’t keep it all together.

I’ll just sheep {VFP, Rathe} until I can fully catch up.

UNVOTE:

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:20 am
by Andresvmb
In post 866, T3 wrote:nom and nero are tvt.
VOTE: T3

I’ll place my vote here for now.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:20 am
by Dwlee99
In post 478, T3 wrote:Okay, so we know this isn't some bizarre conspiracy where there isn't even a neighborhood.
lol was rereading that exchange for context and found this.
Andresvmb wrote:Also Nero Cain was right about nomnomnom (Vaxkiller’s predecessor). He pursued there super aggressively, and DW kept deflecting. Possibly something to look into as well.
I thought Nero's reasoning was bad and still do kind of. I think the scummy part of that interaction was more that nom wasn't really trying to sort there, not what Nero was saying at the time that I disagreed with that nom had an agenda to push me regardless of my reaction to him wanting me to vote Rathe. I said as much in my reaction to Nero ("Point taken on him not sticking with it though.")

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:24 am
by Andresvmb
I think that whole exchange is key to solve the game to be quite honest. You’ll notice osuka comes in too and deflects away from nomnomnom. And I think it makes a lot of sense. Vaxkiller was a strong role for the Scum. That’s one worth defending. Nero was relentless, and the Scum were clearly pushing back and away. So yeah maybe someone give that whole argument a re-read see what you find.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:25 am
by Andresvmb
In post 867, Dwlee99 wrote:Nero can you pick a different person from your list to vote? Not feeling this one.
And you did the same thing.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:26 am
by Andresvmb
In post 892, Andresvmb wrote:Nomnomnom is Town. If anybody tries to execute there, they’re Scum. Just so we’re clear.
I was also way off. Good thing I never claimed to be a good player.

Frankly I would execute myself just for this. Kind of embarrassing.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:26 am
by Dwlee99
I was about to quote that for you. :lol: We all make mistakes

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:28 am
by Andresvmb
Okay so {VFP, Anya, Rathe} are like almost always Town here. I want to sheep them. And I do think Kyouko is likely Town after re-reading some of D1 - they were dangled as an alternative there to Scum a lot.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:28 am
by Andresvmb
I think I need to shut up, vote, and let this game happen.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:31 am
by Dwlee99
Nah keep talking, I like your thoughts. Why can I not be in the sheep pile?

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:32 am
by Andresvmb
In post 2834, Dwlee99 wrote:Nah keep talking, I like your thoughts. Why can I not be in the sheep pile?
Same reason I shouldn’t be or T3. We defended nom3. That’s bad.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:32 am
by Andresvmb
In post 459, Rathe wrote:maybe osuka n nomnomnom r mafia i dont know about dwlee could be but not sure anymore
And with this accuracy, I think Rathe is worth listening to hahaha

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:33 am
by Titus
I need to reset on this game when I get my mental health in order. I still think we had S v S wagons but I owe it to the game and myself to reset.

I still don't see why scum would target a neighbor claim with a jailkeeper unless they knew the claim was false. So I am still willing to vote in the neighbors as it stands.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:33 am
by Andresvmb
In post 698, T3 wrote:Huh. ssbm is very scummy but I'm hesitant to lim him because of the neighborhood. Also Dragon of the West and osuka are townreads from reading the past few pages.
T3 has the added advantage of having defended osuka too.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:37 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2835, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2834, Dwlee99 wrote:Nah keep talking, I like your thoughts. Why can I not be in the sheep pile?
Same reason I shouldn’t be or T3. We defended nom3. That’s bad.
I voted nom in the VFP 1v1 saga at least. Also swung the wagon to Osuka away from (who I think is town) Anya.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:38 am
by VFP
Yeah Dwlee is always town here.
Even on an Anya scum flip Dwlee should always be town.

Also scum don't shoot Cyrus with Dwlee scum.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:42 am
by Andresvmb
In post 2839, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2835, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2834, Dwlee99 wrote:Nah keep talking, I like your thoughts. Why can I not be in the sheep pile?
Same reason I shouldn’t be or T3. We defended nom3. That’s bad.
I voted nom in the VFP 1v1 saga at least. Also swung the wagon to Osuka away from (who I think is town) Anya.
Honestly? I have you in the POE. You sound like you should be treated as Town but in key slots you were talking up Town and pushing slightly away from Scum.

But yes I do remember you aggressively trying to move the wagon away from Anya which buys you some credibility. And since Anya was the CW to Scum, it’s possible that they’re just Town. I don’t think it’s a certainty, but surely Anya shouldn’t be pursued at this stage and Anya also gathered a lot of early votes when nom3 was getting pushed so that’s all fair.

I would probably execute {T3, Titus, STD} in some sort of order and hope to win, but I haven’t even read STD closely and they’re tough to read, and Nero also called them Town. Somebody give me some thoughts on DoTW at this stage that would also help.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:43 am
by VFP
Titus is most likely town.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:46 am
by Andresvmb
But again, I have way too much incomplete information about this game and with the information we have, a full re-read is warranted. I’m just a bit afraid of throwing my weight around because I just haven’t been that solid this game. Though I’m glad I read both peta and Nero correctly more than anything else.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:47 am
by Dwlee99
If DotW is a cop claim then probably town otherwise maybe not.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:47 am
by Andresvmb
In post 2842, VFP wrote:Titus is most likely town.
So who do you think is Scum then? Outside of me of course since you’re voting me.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:47 am
by Titus
In post 2842, VFP wrote:Titus is most likely town.
Why am I likely town given you believe anya was town and how vocally I pushed that wagon?

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:47 am
by Andresvmb
In post 2844, Dwlee99 wrote:If DotW is a cop claim then probably town otherwise maybe not.
They actively argued against that so that can’t be the reason to TR them.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:49 am
by Titus
In post 2847, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2844, Dwlee99 wrote:If DotW is a cop claim then probably town otherwise maybe not.
They actively argued against that so that can’t be the reason to TR them.
That's why I suspected masons, which was my big reason for doubting the neighbor claim.

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:49 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2847, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2844, Dwlee99 wrote:If DotW is a cop claim then probably town otherwise maybe not.
They actively argued against that so that can’t be the reason to TR them.
I would also say "No I'm not a cop" if I was a cop.