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imagine we flip town that is not ss today, who do you think everyone will be pushing tomorrow?

to rephrase that since apparently i wasn't clear

In post 2821, skitter30 wrote:

In post 2818, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2815, skitter30 wrote:if it's an inevitable flip i just think we should do it now isntead of wasting like 3 gamephases getting stuck on this

and ngl i think most of your content today is scummy
VOTE: ceph

incredible. truly. i put some scrutiny on you and

now the ss elim is not inevitable anymore i guess and you've thrown your own point out the window

. i don't believe that's a real thought process.

VOTE: skitter

uh do you actaully think my vote is gonna make you flipped over ss here?

no? but you're making it out like voting for anyone besides ss is a waste of time, hence why you are doing nothing despite your just having professed to think he's town ~5 pages ago, yet here you are doing just that?

In post 2822, Infinity 324 wrote:i've decided i like ceph actually

his agenda if scum is kinda ??? and his thoughts feel organic

enchant flipping scum didn't give me useful info tbh since there aren't many interactions to look and and idk if scum would bus there or not, they may have thought it was inevitable or maybe not

what did you think of the bunch of posts i made at the start of toDay?

In post 2823, skitter30 wrote:

In post 2820, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2817, skitter30 wrote:

In post 2816, Cephrir wrote:so you don't think players ever change course?

oh hey another loaded question that doesn't actually address my point

it... does though??? you're arguing that no matter what happens today the outcome of tomorrow will be the same, are you not? how is that not literally what you just implied?

imagine we flip town-dgb, for the purposes of this conversation
do you think the scruitiny on ss and the desire to flip him will go away tomorrow y/n?

probably not, but it's possible. he might produce more town content, or folks might feel they see scum hopping on the dgb wagon. i certainly don't believe that the game is essentially set in stone. i expect he'll be a suspect still, most likely, but i also think general suspects do not always get eliminated. every town body is useful. see NQN, a game i recently ran, where a slot that was regarded as obvscum got replaced, turned it around and was never elimed

that's not what i said?
i said that flipping anybody other than ss today given the current dynamic is silly

if the dynamic changes i'm on board with flipping other people
and a solitary vote like 2 days before deadline != flipping them, voting you is not a contraction to anything i've been saying?

i was literally encouraging you to vote for me/galron like on the prior page, i don't know how you're coming to the conclusion that i think that voting anybody other than ss right now is foolhardy

and i'm p sure you know full well that my vote is not gonna flip you so idk how voting you makes an ss flip inevitable

In post 2825, skitter30 wrote:imagine we flip town that is not ss today, who do you think everyone will be pushing tomorrow?

to rephrase that since apparently i wasn't clear

some combination of SS, DGB, me and you would be my best guess.

In post 2827, Cephrir wrote:what did you think of the bunch of posts i made at the start of toDay?

i think you capitalizing day is supposed to tell me whether it means rl day or day phase

if it's the former they didn't leave an immediate impression but your ~vibe~ has sort of been at the back of my mind so i guess i've decided they were towny

if it's the latter they left no impression

In post 2831, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 2827, Cephrir wrote:what did you think of the bunch of posts i made at the start of toDay?

i think you capitalizing day is supposed to tell me whether it means rl day or day phase

if it's the former they didn't leave an immediate impression but your ~vibe~ has sort of been at the back of my mind so i guess i've decided they were towny

if it's the latter they left no impression

the former. since you feel like you didn't gain much from analyzing d1 and that was my attempt to analyze d1, maybe it could give you a thought or you could tell me why my thoughts suck

sorry, i mean the latter. words is hard.

In post 2828, Cephrir wrote:probably not, but it's possible. he might produce more town content, or folks might feel they see scum hopping on the dgb wagon. i certainly don't believe that the game is essentially set in stone. i expect he'll be a suspect still, most likely, but i also think general suspects do not always get eliminated. every town body is useful. see NQN, a game i recently ran, where a slot that was regarded as obvscum got replaced, turned it around and was never elimed

ss said p bluntly he isn't planning on changing how he's playing even if he's around tomorrow, which i think negates most of your points
and you agree that the suspicion on him is gonna linger, right? so why are we letting this cloud over everything instead of just, like, moving on

he's not voting anybody, he's not pushing scumreads, he's being uncooperative. people aren't going to let this go until he flips or gets cleared so like

In post 2830, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2825, skitter30 wrote:imagine we flip town that is not ss today, who do you think everyone will be pushing tomorrow?

to rephrase that since apparently i wasn't clear

some combination of

SS

, DGB, me and you would be my best guess.

right, you're kinda proving my point

In post 2829, skitter30 wrote:that's not what i said?
i said that flipping anybody other than ss today given the current dynamic is silly

if the dynamic changes i'm on board with flipping other people
and a solitary vote like 2 days before deadline != flipping them, voting you is not a contraction to anything i've been saying?

i was literally encouraging you to vote for me/galron like on the prior page, i don't know how you're coming to the conclusion that i think that voting anybody other than ss right now is foolhardy

and i'm p sure you know full well that my vote is not gonna flip you so idk how voting you makes an ss flip inevitable

this makes some sense i think but i don't know if i have the spoons to figure out if it's actually a valid retelling of the events that just happened or if it's moving goalposts

this is why i don't do multilayered arguments

In post 2835, skitter30 wrote:

In post 2830, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2825, skitter30 wrote:imagine we flip town that is not ss today, who do you think everyone will be pushing tomorrow?

to rephrase that since apparently i wasn't clear

some combination of

SS

, DGB, me and you would be my best guess.

right, you're kinda proving my point

idk why continued attention being on someone means we might as well kill them. if they're town, we benefit from them getting more time to convince others they're town. it's just so like nihilistic.

In post 2832, Cephrir wrote:the former. since you feel like you didn't gain much from analyzing d1 and that was my attempt to analyze d1, maybe it could give you a thought or you could tell me why my thoughts suck

i can do this tomorrow if you don't mind me going "that's not ai imo" for a lot of things? i think a lot of things are nai unless you squint really hard

i think you're kinda walking back each iteration of your argument against me as i refute what you're saying but ok

In post 2838, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 2832, Cephrir wrote:the former. since you feel like you didn't gain much from analyzing d1 and that was my attempt to analyze d1, maybe it could give you a thought or you could tell me why my thoughts suck

i can do this tomorrow if you don't mind me going "that's not ai imo" for a lot of things? i think a lot of things are nai unless you squint really hard

that's fine. i mean, you don't have to, i was just wondering if it might be helpful to you to think about what others are getting out of the day if you didn't get anywhere on your own

In post 2676, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 2639, Galron wrote:Something Smart, if you are alive tomorrow, will your effort change?

No.

ceph what do you think is gonna change tomorrow if ss is alive exactly

In post 2839, skitter30 wrote:i think you're kinda walking back each iteration of your argument against me as i refute what you're saying but ok

sure. whatever.

i'll always "lose" a protracted debate like this. i'm just not persuasive or eloquent in that way, and invariably even i don't know if i have a point by the end so i'll just sort of melt into a puddle like i'm doing now.

In post 2841, skitter30 wrote:

In post 2676, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 2639, Galron wrote:Something Smart, if you are alive tomorrow, will your effort change?

No.

ceph what do you think is gonna change tomorrow if ss is alive exactly

i don't know! it's a wonderful adventure we'll all have together finding out. i don't think this way, i just try to kill the scum

In post 2840, Cephrir wrote:that's fine. i mean, you don't have to, i was just wondering if it might be helpful to you to think about what others are getting out of the day if you didn't get anywhere on your own

i am rebellious and independent and my style of reading people doesn't tend to mesh well with others' but i will attempt

(btw this argument is probably just a playstyle difference)

But wait what if we don't flip SS today but still hit scum? Is SS still the topic tomorrow?

In post 2846, Galron wrote:But wait what if we don't flip SS today but still hit scum? Is SS still the topic tomorrow?

he really, really, really shouldn't be, in that scenario.

i am possibly willing to concede that

pedit i mean probably not but i'm pessimistic and doubtful we're flipping scum today

Everyone seems resigned that SS is town and this will be a miz. So why aren't we flipping scum then.