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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:42 am
by Stephen A Smith
i mean we know gunsmith gets guilties on at least 2 scum

that is a shit ton of power

and ive also never seen gunsmith inv a tpr miller and that tpr miller get eliminated lol

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:46 am
by the worst
thats a meaningless argument though, lol, the gs + miller both have to out for that dialogue to take place. the hit to town ev is pretty considerable, and gs millers dont know to claim that they're millers until the kinda situation dwlee was put in today (where there is clearly not a vig)

[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13279038]post 2732[/url], the worst"][quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13266213]post 1975[/url], Datisi"][color=teal][b][size=160]vote count 1.final[/size][/b][/color]
[color=teal][b]with 13 votes in play, it took 7 to make a decision. day 1 ended.[/b][/color]

[area=yeet][b][color=#00BF00]Greeting[/color] [7]:[/b] [color=#00BF00]fireisredsir[/color], [color=#BF0000]Nero Cain[/color], Eyes without a face, Stephen A Smith, [color=#BF0000]Scorpious[/color], [color=#FF40FF]HockeyFan[/color], Dwlee99 [b][color=teal][HAMMER][/color][/b]
[b][color=#BF0000]Nero Cain[/color] [2]:[/b] [color=#00BF00]Frozen Angel[/color], [color=#00BF00]Greeting[/color]
[b][color=#BF0000]Scorpious[/color] [2]:[/b] [color=#00BF00]wavemode[/color], the worst
[b]Andante [1]:[/b] Umlaut

[b]not voting [1]:[/b] Andante[/area][/quote]

[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13275575]post 2593[/url], Datisi"][color=teal][b][size=160]vote count 2.final[/size][/b][/color]
[color=teal][b]with 11 votes in play, it took 6 to make a decision. day 2 ended.[/b][/color]

[area=yeet][b][color=#BF0000]Nero Cain[/color] [6]:[/b] the worst, Umlaut, [color=#BF0000]Scorpious[/color], Stephen A Smith, Dwlee99, Andante [b][color=teal][HAMMER][/color][/b]
[b][color=#BF0000]Scorpious[/color] [1]:[/b] [color=#FF40FF]HockeyFan[/color]
[b]Andante [1]:[/b] [color=#BF0000]Nero Cain[/color]
[b]the worst [1]:[/b] Eyes without a face
[b]Eyes without a face [1]:[/b] [color=#00BF00]wavemode[/color]

[b]not voting [1]:[/b] [color=#00BF00]fireisredsir[/color][/area][/quote]

[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13277813]post 2717[/url], Datisi"][color=teal][b][size=160]vote count 3.final[/size][/b][/color]
[color=teal][b]with 9 votes in play, it took 5 to make a decision. day 3 ended.[/b][/color]

[area=yeet][b][color=#BF0000]Scorpious[/color] [5]:[/b] [color=#00BF00]wavemode[/color], Andante, [color=#FF40FF]HockeyFan[/color], Dwlee99, Stephen A Smith [b][color=teal][HAMMER][/color][/b]
[b]Dwlee99 [1]:[/b] the worst
[b][color=#00BF00]wavemode[/color] [1]:[/b] [color=#BF0000]Scorpious[/color]

[b]not voting [2]:[/b] Eyes without a face, Umlaut[/area][/quote]


anyone else into this stuff? :]
assuming hockey is town, nero was either p gloriously bussed or eyes is last scum. eyes has scumsided on all eod wagons.[/quote]

just a reminder eyes keeps scumsiding; its not a silver bullet but I just kinda think it's more convincing than what you're saying as far as finding scum goes :x eliminating tprs just because of loose setup spec is like cutting off our nose to spite our face. noses without a face.

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:47 am
by the worst
In post 2826, the worst wrote:thats a meaningless argument though, lol, the gs + miller both have to out for that dialogue to take place. the hit to town ev is pretty considerable, and gs millers dont know to claim that they're millers until the kinda situation dwlee was put in today (where there is clearly not a vig)
In post 2732, the worst wrote:
In post 1975, Datisi wrote:
vote count 1.final

with 13 votes in play, it took 7 to make a decision. day 1 ended.


yeet
Greeting
[7]:
fireisredsir
,
Nero Cain
, Eyes without a face, Stephen A Smith,
Scorpious
,
HockeyFan
, Dwlee99
[HAMMER]

Nero Cain
[2]:
Frozen Angel
,
Greeting

Scorpious
[2]:
wavemode
, the worst
Andante [1]:
Umlaut

not voting [1]:
Andante
In post 2593, Datisi wrote:
vote count 2.final

with 11 votes in play, it took 6 to make a decision. day 2 ended.


yeet
Nero Cain
[6]:
the worst, Umlaut,
Scorpious
, Stephen A Smith, Dwlee99, Andante
[HAMMER]

Scorpious
[1]:
HockeyFan

Andante [1]:
Nero Cain

the worst [1]:
Eyes without a face
Eyes without a face [1]:
wavemode


not voting [1]:
fireisredsir
In post 2717, Datisi wrote:
vote count 3.final

with 9 votes in play, it took 5 to make a decision. day 3 ended.


yeet
Scorpious
[5]:
wavemode
, Andante,
HockeyFan
, Dwlee99, Stephen A Smith
[HAMMER]

Dwlee99 [1]:
the worst
wavemode
[1]:
Scorpious


not voting [2]:
Eyes without a face, Umlaut

anyone else into this stuff? :]
assuming hockey is town, nero was either p gloriously bussed or eyes is last scum. eyes has scumsided on all eod wagons.
just a reminder eyes keeps scumsiding; its not a silver bullet but I just kinda think it's more convincing than what you're saying as far as finding scum goes :x eliminating tprs just because of loose setup spec is like cutting off our nose to spite our face. noses without a face.
sorry, fat fingers. requoted for legibility.

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:47 am
by Stephen A Smith
i am an incredibly simple man and i think incredibly simple thoughts

i dont believe scum dont shoot a backup gunsmith that is confirmed to be a backup gunsmith
even if last scum is a doctor
because doctors can get poed out and i dont believe there is a mafia doctor in a game with gunsmith. last time datisi ran a game with mafia doctor vs town gunsmith he announced the existence of mafia doctor in the public information.

i believe datisi is an artist with his setups. he likes 4 tprs because he thinks it looks pretty. all 4 mini normals he ran have 4 tprs.

there is something beautiful about having an town alien - mafia alien enabler and a town gunsmith and a mafia backup gunsmith. its the kind of circle of life thing that datisi would love to throw into a game just because.

hockeyfan is a cowboys fan

we should kill him for that alone.

I am a simple man. I think simple thoughts. But I am often right so.

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:53 am
by the worst
In post 2828, Stephen A Smith wrote:i am an incredibly simple man and i think incredibly simple thoughts

i dont believe scum dont shoot a backup gunsmith that is confirmed to be a backup gunsmith
even if last scum is a doctor
because doctors can get poed out and i dont believe there is a mafia doctor in a game with gunsmith. last time datisi ran a game with mafia doctor vs town gunsmith he announced the existence of mafia doctor in the public information.

i believe datisi is an artist with his setups. he likes 4 tprs because he thinks it looks pretty. all 4 mini normals he ran have 4 tprs.

there is something beautiful about having an town alien - mafia alien enabler and a town gunsmith and a mafia backup gunsmith. its the kind of circle of life thing that datisi would love to throw into a game just because.

hockeyfan is a cowboys fan

we should kill him for that alone.

I am a simple man. I think simple thoughts. But I am often right so.
I think shooting wave (indeterminate remaining power, had guiltied scum) makes a lot more sense than shooting a backup gunsmith, irrespective of the last scum role. I think eliminating the claimed backup gunsmith before the rest of the PoE is doing scum's work for them.

consider: you know me to be a big fan of an easy endgame.

tw, andante, stephen (clear), eyes, umlaut, dwlee, hockey
eliminate eyes: tw, andante, Stephen (clear), umlaut, dwlee, hockey
scum shoots stephen, hockey checks umlaut: tw, andante, umlaut (clear), dwlee, hockey
elim dwlee (policy; cant be inno'd): tw, andante, umlaut (clear), hockey
scum shoots hockey (f3 umlaut has to choose between andante or I) or umlaut (hockey 1v1s one of andante or I)

I don't think scum leaving Hockey alive is a red flag at all. if you have other reasons to think Hockey is scum, or that the other two scummy players are town, I'm all ears.

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:54 am
by the worst
I accept that policy eliminating Dwlee in f5 there would be very funny and silly its just an exercise

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:56 am
by HockeyFan
In post 2829, the worst wrote:
In post 2828, Stephen A Smith wrote:i am an incredibly simple man and i think incredibly simple thoughts

i dont believe scum dont shoot a backup gunsmith that is confirmed to be a backup gunsmith
even if last scum is a doctor
because doctors can get poed out and i dont believe there is a mafia doctor in a game with gunsmith. last time datisi ran a game with mafia doctor vs town gunsmith he announced the existence of mafia doctor in the public information.

i believe datisi is an artist with his setups. he likes 4 tprs because he thinks it looks pretty. all 4 mini normals he ran have 4 tprs.

there is something beautiful about having an town alien - mafia alien enabler and a town gunsmith and a mafia backup gunsmith. its the kind of circle of life thing that datisi would love to throw into a game just because.

hockeyfan is a cowboys fan

we should kill him for that alone.

I am a simple man. I think simple thoughts. But I am often right so.
I think shooting wave (indeterminate remaining power, had guiltied scum) makes a lot more sense than shooting a backup gunsmith, irrespective of the last scum role. I think eliminating the claimed backup gunsmith before the rest of the PoE is doing scum's work for them.

consider: you know me to be a big fan of an easy endgame.

tw, andante, stephen (clear), eyes, umlaut, dwlee, hockey
eliminate eyes: tw, andante, Stephen (clear), umlaut, dwlee, hockey
scum shoots stephen, hockey checks umlaut: tw, andante, umlaut (clear), dwlee, hockey
elim dwlee (policy; cant be inno'd): tw, andante, umlaut (clear), hockey
scum shoots hockey (f3 umlaut has to choose between andante or I) or umlaut (hockey 1v1s one of andante or I)

I don't think scum leaving Hockey alive is a red flag at all. if you have other reasons to think Hockey is scum, or that the other two scummy players are town, I'm all ears.
Slight problem, forgot to mention this earlier, but I am only 1-shot
Anyways, TW convinced me 5 TRPS can exist, so POE of Umulat/Eyes

[post=Umulat]Umulat[/post]

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:57 am
by Stephen A Smith
In post 2829, the worst wrote:
In post 2828, Stephen A Smith wrote:i am an incredibly simple man and i think incredibly simple thoughts

i dont believe scum dont shoot a backup gunsmith that is confirmed to be a backup gunsmith
even if last scum is a doctor
because doctors can get poed out and i dont believe there is a mafia doctor in a game with gunsmith. last time datisi ran a game with mafia doctor vs town gunsmith he announced the existence of mafia doctor in the public information.

i believe datisi is an artist with his setups. he likes 4 tprs because he thinks it looks pretty. all 4 mini normals he ran have 4 tprs.

there is something beautiful about having an town alien - mafia alien enabler and a town gunsmith and a mafia backup gunsmith. its the kind of circle of life thing that datisi would love to throw into a game just because.

hockeyfan is a cowboys fan

we should kill him for that alone.

I am a simple man. I think simple thoughts. But I am often right so.
I think shooting wave (indeterminate remaining power, had guiltied scum) makes a lot more sense than shooting a backup gunsmith, irrespective of the last scum role. I think eliminating the claimed backup gunsmith before the rest of the PoE is doing scum's work for them.

consider: you know me to be a big fan of an easy endgame.

tw, andante, stephen (clear), eyes, umlaut, dwlee, hockey
eliminate eyes: tw, andante, Stephen (clear), umlaut, dwlee, hockey
scum shoots stephen, hockey checks umlaut: tw, andante, umlaut (clear), dwlee, hockey
elim dwlee (policy; cant be inno'd): tw, andante, umlaut (clear), hockey
scum shoots hockey (f3 umlaut has to choose between andante or I) or umlaut (hockey 1v1s one of andante or I)

I don't think scum leaving Hockey alive is a red flag at all. if you have other reasons to think Hockey is scum, or that the other two scummy players are town, I'm all ears.


I cant imagine a scum player thinking the town joat had another ability if the town has a backup gunsmith

i think maybe we just have vastly different opinions of setup balance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:58 am
by Stephen A Smith
is backup one shot gunsmith really a thing

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:58 am
by HockeyFan
yes

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:58 am
by Stephen A Smith
like seriously can any1 find me a game where a full gunsmith has a one shot back up

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:58 am
by HockeyFan
VOTE: Umulat

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:59 am
by the worst
sadly the claim makes sense but, alas, now we policy hockey instead :P

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:00 am
by the worst
umlaut is probably just not the correct elim today. eyes or hockey, I'll lolhammer either
UNVOTE:

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:01 am
by Stephen A Smith
this is just hockeyfan downgrading his claim to make it plausible for him to survive into endgame rofl

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:02 am
by HockeyFan
In post 2838, the worst wrote:
umlaut is probably just not the correct elim today
why?

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:03 am
by the worst
I was willing to accept one claim pivot in favour of survivalism but if his claim changes every time we present a situation in which his claim can't win as scum, something about ducks quacking, etc.

honestly I am secretly not sure if Umlaut is scum with Nero I just didn't wanna say it if he and eyes were my PoE >.> <.<

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:04 am
by the worst
In post 2840, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 2838, the worst wrote:
umlaut is probably just not the correct elim today
why?
I think scumlaut is strictly a worse solve than scum-without-a-team or scumckeyfan

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:19 am
by Stephen A Smith
backup one shot gun smith is absolutely an ugly role and i refuse to believe datisi puts it into this setup

mafia backup gunsmith is infinitely more sexy and pretty looking.

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:20 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2839, Stephen A Smith wrote:this is just hockeyfan downgrading his claim to make it plausible for him to survive into endgame rofl
That's false - wave mode role copped him and said 1-shot gunsmith at the time

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:21 am
by Stephen A Smith
lol lemme read what wave wrote

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:21 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2485, wavemode wrote:what if I told you that I'm a 1-shot rolecop and I know for a fact that hockeyfan is a backup 1-shot gunsmith

so my knee jerk reaction to nero's claim was, how did he know to claim gunsmith of all things? hockey had not told us what he was a backup for

unless they are mafia GS and mafia backup GS? which, wow wtf. but it's technically possible I suppose. still, it's strange to claim that together and become joined at the hip (the typical risk associated with mason fakeclaims)
Okay be back later

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:21 am
by the worst
I'm nauseous

pedit o gotcha

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:22 am
by the worst
plan a

VOTE: eyes

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:23 am
by Stephen A Smith
ok fine maybe he didnt downgrade his claim i still think hes a scumbaggo but im fine going somewhere else or w/e