In post 2793, Charloux wrote:
Comparing these two i'd bet my money on T3 flipping scum
Yes i look really certain in my reads.
Won't bother telling you concrete stuff just because you are too lazy to read her ISO. From the top of my head Van, Norwegian, Dann, T3 are all tied to Alisae one way or another.
That looks like you are expressing certainty, yes
people generaly don't bet money on things they are not confident in
why do I have to fucking read alisae's ISO to understand
your
read - you literally haven't given a coherent explanation. I was scumreading alisae for my own reasons, but I thought your stance on her loojed horrendously scummy and made no sense, so I'm questioning you on it. What does alisae's flip tell you about those players' alignment, exactly?
In post 2807, fireisredsir wrote:i feel similarly to charloux here so i don't really get what catboi thinks is so bad about the post
you feel similarly to that dogshit word salad explanation?
yes
i think t3 is scummy but he feels kinda like, isolated. it doesn't feel like anyone is really on his side even if he's scum. if he flips scum it feels like the kind of flip where scum are fine with that happening
whereas alisae if scum feels like she's hard pushing scum agenda, has a lot of pushes that just vibe weird and could be looked at further to see what her goals might have been, that kind of stuff
so a scum alisae flip i think gives us a lot more info than a scum t3 flip. usually i kinda prefer to flip the lower content players bc they give us less to work with but in this case i think alisae kinda has been contributing to making the thread vibes unpleasant so i don't think it's really a bad thing either way
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:43 am
by fireisredsir
In post 2828, Mistyx wrote:you know bear there’s an old saying that goes “fire alone can save our clan”
In post 2807, fireisredsir wrote:i feel similarly to charloux here so i don't really get what catboi thinks is so bad about the post
you feel similarly to that dogshit word salad explanation?
yes
i think t3 is scummy but he feels kinda like, isolated. it doesn't feel like anyone is really on his side even if he's scum. if he flips scum it feels like the kind of flip where scum are fine with that happening
whereas alisae if scum feels like she's hard pushing scum agenda, has a lot of pushes that just vibe weird and could be looked at further to see what her goals might have been, that kind of stuff
so a scum alisae flip i think gives us a lot more info than a scum t3 flip. usually i kinda prefer to flip the lower content players bc they give us less to work with but in this case i think alisae kinda has been contributing to making the thread vibes unpleasant so i don't think it's really a bad thing either way
alisae if scum is more dangerous than T3 but that's not what charloux is arguing
he's arguing that somehow he is most confident in t3 being scum but alisae is "informatve" and if you haven't learned the words "info yeet" are a massive red flag I don't know what to tell you
he can't actually justify the read of why alisae is actually likely to be scum it just seems to have materialized from nowhere??
In post 2816, fireisredsir wrote:i think in general, especially lately, their pushes have felt like they're more motivated by agenda than stemming from anything natural
elaborate on this?
can't really iso dive rn, i can do it later, but one aspect of it was the way their read on kitty flipped and it felt like the reads they were expressing in hood (based on what val said, at least) were different than the reads they were expressing in thread felt like... positional. like they were angling for things rather than expressing natural thought
and i also don't like the way they've tried to shut down people from posting or people engaging with them, i don't think that feels town motivated, bc its not like scum!kitty or scum!bear are gonna charisma-post their way into getting townread by everyone. so them posting and engaging more is likely to be a positive thing for everyone's ability to read them
In post 2816, fireisredsir wrote:i think in general, especially lately, their pushes have felt like they're more motivated by agenda than stemming from anything natural
elaborate on this?
can't really iso dive rn, i can do it later, but one aspect of it was the way their read on kitty flipped and it felt like the reads they were expressing in hood (based on what val said, at least) were different than the reads they were expressing in thread felt like... positional. like they were angling for things rather than expressing natural thought
and i also don't like the way they've tried to shut down people from posting or people engaging with them, i don't think that feels town motivated, bc its not like scum!kitty or scum!bear are gonna charisma-post their way into getting townread by everyone. so them posting and engaging more is likely to be a positive thing for everyone's ability to read them
I don't think shuttign people down and getting emotional/being negative is a scumtell
I'm more likely to do it as town if anything
the stuff about the reads being positional is at least far and kind of similar to what I was hinking
But this also isn't really what charlox has been saying at all so I don't know why you're supposedly agreeing with him
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:50 am
by Charloux
In post 2825, catboi wrote:
That looks like you are expressing certainty, yes
people generaly don't bet money on things they are not confident in
Like i haven't talked about speculation sounding like it's confirmed before
why do I have to fucking read alisae's ISO to understand
your
read - you literally haven't given a coherent explanation. I was scumreading alisae for my own reasons, but I thought your stance on her loojed horrendously scummy and made no sense, so I'm questioning you on it. What does alisae's flip tell you about those players' alignment, exactly?
Your questions are the things that make no sense from my standpoint. Afaik people need to flip before we speculate but whatever.
The current game state is that people are pushing for potentially easy miselims. Alisae was the one who started the mastina wagon and the T3 wagon. They are also hiteknighting Noregian which i see as a scum attempting to pocket town.
That pretty much sums the important stuff
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:50 am
by PenguinPower
In post 2836, Titus wrote:Tell me, when's the last time you tunneled like this? Feels like antispew.
Probably the last time someone blatantly lied in an attempt to push me.
In post 2807, fireisredsir wrote:i feel similarly to charloux here so i don't really get what catboi thinks is so bad about the post
you feel similarly to that dogshit word salad explanation?
yes
i think t3 is scummy but he feels kinda like, isolated. it doesn't feel like anyone is really on his side even if he's scum. if he flips scum it feels like the kind of flip where scum are fine with that happening
whereas alisae if scum feels like she's hard pushing scum agenda, has a lot of pushes that just vibe weird and could be looked at further to see what her goals might have been, that kind of stuff
so a scum alisae flip i think gives us a lot more info than a scum t3 flip. usually i kinda prefer to flip the lower content players bc they give us less to work with but in this case i think alisae kinda has been contributing to making the thread vibes unpleasant so i don't think it's really a bad thing either way
alisae if scum is more dangerous than T3 but that's not what charloux is arguing
he's arguing that somehow he is most confident in t3 being scum but alisae is "informatve" and if you haven't learned the words "info yeet" are a massive red flag I don't know what to tell you
he can't actually justify the read of why alisae is actually likely to be scum it just seems to have materialized from nowhere??
idk maybe im projecting my own thought process onto him more than i thought, but it seemed reasonable to me
i thought you were on him earlier for voting t3 despite scumreading alisae, idk why him voting alisae now instead is a problem for you
like you are scumreading alisae and just said it was your favorite yeet and yet you're voting someone who is also scumreading/voting alisae
In post 2828, Mistyx wrote:you know bear there’s an old saying that goes “fire alone can save our clan”
you sure you wanna be preventing it?
TOUCHÉ. FIRE ALSO KILLED A BUNCH OF CATS IN
Spoiler:
SERIES 1, BOOK 4
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:50 am
by catboi
In post 2838, Charloux wrote:The current game state is that people are pushing for potentially easy miselims. Alisae was the one who started the mastina wagon and the T3 wagon.
So is T3 a likely scumflip or a potentially easy mis-elim?? he can't be both
