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Post Post #2850 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:57 am

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Yeah, Voided eats rope today. Should have been lynched on Day 1.
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Post Post #2851 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:20 am

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town
5. pieguyn (replaces guille2015)
6. Lost Butterfly (a hydra of Faraday and Mina) <- still like them
9. morph the cat (a hydra of Cabd and fferyllt) <- liking them too

null-town
2. PeregrineV <- he's not posting much but he's picking up on the right things for me
3. Nero Cain <- I don't even know anymore about nero/mhork. I have a feeling they're both town and scum is just fucking with us.
13. uʍop ǝpısdn (a hydra of N and Quilford) <- Quil's posting read town as fuck when he started. N is null for me. was worried I wouldn't get to see any more of Quil's town as fuck-ness but he already posted the reason for his inactivity so I can look at them again later
17. Lord Mhork <- see Nero
19. 1baldeagle1 <- he still isn't pinging me the wrong way, despite a drop in activity from D1./
21. Espeonage (replaces JacobSavage who replaced Klick) <- liked his entrance

null
7. Garuda (a hydra of Empire and Nachomamma8)
10. BBmolla
11. Ghostly Penguin (a hydra of Ghostlin and penguin_alien) (replaces Banakai)
14. zMuffinMan
16. ProHawk
18. KingdomAces (replaces Zdenek) <- KingdomAces himself is entirely null for me so far and I don't get all the scumreads on him. mb I'm just missing something >_< Zdenek was null-town but after thinking about it more it doesn't seem too unlikely scum got the roles he claimed and decided to be honest about getting them

scum
1. VoidedMafia
4. Seanald
12. Harakiri (a hydra of Natirasha and Sakura Hana)

i have too many damn townreads. I agree with whoever pointed out a while back that BP going for $190 something indicates scum being scared, which indicates that our big 6 townreads were mostly correct, if not entirely. if there's scum in there it's probably PV or uwop. leaning uwop cause PV seems to be picking up on the right stuff for me, but that's only if there was even a scum in there in the first place

I don't have enough scumreads so the remaining ones should be taken from my null reads. not sure yet on exactly who in there would be the remaining scum
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Post Post #2852 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:44 am

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In post 2850, 1baldeagle1 wrote:Yeah, Voided eats rope today. Should have been lynched on Day 1.
So you're still being an idiot, then? That's nice.

Maybe you'll learn how to differentiate between defense and WK.
In post 2851, pieguyn wrote:I don't have enough scumreads so the remaining ones should be taken from my null reads. not sure yet on exactly who in there would be the remaining scum
I say that scum outside of Nero and Seanald are in your null-town range, largely because I have townreads on nearly everyone in your null pile (the only exception being BB, who I agree on being null).

In regards to Nero and Mhork, I'd like to point out how Nero's scumread everyone who's attacked him (or near enough), and Mhork's townread and buddied to varying degrees those who've defended him. For the former there's that as well as what muffin's said regarding him, and for the latter I think that what I said is a good point toward him being scum opposite of Nero if you don't think that him medium-ing Pyro is enough townpoints.
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Post Post #2853 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:45 am

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And before you spout off some spiel about scumreading you but not pushing you, what part of "you're not my priority" don't you understand?
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Post Post #2854 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:04 am

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@Voided-
Pretend this is your wagon. Please locate the scum on and off it.

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

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Post Post #2855 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:16 am

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In post 2851, pieguyn wrote:null
7. Garuda (a hydra of Empire and Nachomamma8)
10. BBmolla
11. Ghostly Penguin (a hydra of Ghostlin and penguin_alien) (replaces Banakai)
14. zMuffinMan
16. ProHawk
18. KingdomAces (replaces Zdenek) _< Zdenek was null-town but after thinking about it more it doesn't seem too unlikely scum got the roles he claimed and decided to be honest about getting them
Any chance you can be talked into putting these into null-scum and straight-up null?
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Post Post #2856 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:23 am

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null
7. Garuda (a hydra of Empire and Nachomamma8)
16. ProHawk
18. KingdomAces (replaces Zdenek) _< Zdenek was null-town but after thinking about it more it doesn't seem too unlikely scum got the roles he claimed and decided to be honest about getting them

null-scum
10. BBmolla
11. Ghostly Penguin (a hydra of Ghostlin and penguin_alien) (replaces Banakai)
14. zMuffinMan

sry, my null is so similar to my null-scum cause generally when someone is null for me historically I find that to make it more likely they're scum than just being dead null. so that makes it around the same as null-scum. so I wouldn't be surprised at all if this was entirely back-ass-wards >_<//
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Post Post #2857 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:33 am

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voided's ISO makes my eyes glaze over, but i don't currently think voided is scum. even apart from the fact that there are elements of voided's ISO that look town, i don't like the wagon on him at the moment. particularly this section of the wagon: {ProHawk, Nero Cain, Seanald} - i doubt all three of these players are scum, but i'd almost be willing to bet money on there being two scum in those names.

i still like the nero wagon. i feel if nero were actually town here, there wouldn't be so much resistance to his lynch. not to mention the only question mark player on the nero wagon for me is voided, and if nero really were town and voided was scum, i imagine scum would be all over the nero wagon as a counter-wagon. instead you have a few of the scummier players in the game on the voided wagon.

i think there's scum among the players pushing the idea that this is nero's "town meta" and ignoring all the fucking signs that point to nero scum. nobody is even really addressing the fact that his reads are static (they don't change based on new information, there's no semblance of trying to figure out the game in the way he's formed his reads), and the only strong scum reads he currently has are the people who are attacking him... not to mention the weird angles like trying to push the idea i'm scum for not remembering a game we played together or blatantly quote-mining.

so in a hypothetical situation where we lynch voided today and he flips town, where's the scum in these names?

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Post Post #2858 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:37 am

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Seanald. Clearly.
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Post Post #2859 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:40 am

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you think if voided is town, seanald is the only scum on the voided wagon?
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Post Post #2860 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:19 am

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Prodded Harakiri.
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Post Post #2861 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:16 am

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I'm sorry, been VLA. I'll get something up later.

Why are we still scum, pie?
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Post Post #2862 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:20 am

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In post 2854, PeregrineV wrote:@Voided- Pretend this is your wagon. Please locate the scum on and off it.
How do I "pretend" it's my wagon when everyone but you are fucking on it?!
In post 2854, PeregrineV wrote:VoidedMafia (7): 1baldeagle1, uʍop ǝpısdn, ProHawk, Nero Cain, Seanald, pieguyn, PeregrineV
Nero Cain (4): zMuffinMan, Lord Mhork, Harakiri, VoidedMafia
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ProHawk (1): Lost Butterfly
zMuffinMan (1): Espeonage
On the wagon: Nero, Seanald, Bald. UD is an off chance.

Off the wagon: Possibly Mhork. If I had to give one more, MAYBE hara-kiri or BB, though the latter's just because he's unsorted and i'm not caring to sort him right now.

I'm not saying what team they're on since A.) I don't do teams without flips (as I've said already) and B.) As I've also said, DP does not give me much in terms of determining teams, so information-wise it's pretty much the same as if he hadn't flipped scum.
In post 2858, ProHawk wrote:Seanald. Clearly.
JUST Seanald?
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Post Post #2863 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:47 am

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Good good

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Post Post #2864 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:57 am

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VOTE: Nero Cain
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Post Post #2865 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:36 am

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Seanald is the most likely to be scum on the wagon.
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Post Post #2866 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:43 am

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In post 2865, ProHawk wrote:Seanald is the most likely to be scum on the wagon.
That's not what we're (or at least I'm) asking, ProHawk.
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Post Post #2867 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:45 am

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My scum reads are Seanald, Upside Down, and Harakiri. With a side of Voided and Morph the Cat.

Is that what you are asking?
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Post Post #2868 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:17 pm

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In post 2867, ProHawk wrote:My scum reads are Seanald, Upside Down, and Harakiri. With a side of Voided and Morph the Cat.

Is that what you are asking?
Muffin asked you who you thought was scum on my wagon if I hypothetically flip town. Why'd you only say Seanald even after both of us pressed you on it?
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Post Post #2869 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:23 pm

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is it just me or did Voided just suddenly start scumreading Seanald right after I pointed out Seanald's behavior
Harakiri wrote:I'm sorry, been VLA. I'll get something up later.

Why are we still scum, pie?
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Post Post #2870 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:13 pm

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In post 2869, pieguyn wrote:is it just me or did Voided just suddenly start scumreading Seanald right after I pointed out Seanald's behavior
No. I scumread him when his stupidity with his bids and abilities knocked him out of the "stupidtown" category.
In post 2868, Voidedmafia wrote:Why'd you only say Seanald even after both of us pressed you on it?
To phrase this slightly better, ProHawk: Did you really think Seanald was the only scum on my wagon (if I flipped town), or did you misread Muffin's query?
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Post Post #2871 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:16 pm

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can you link to where you were scumreading him plz? I must have missed it sry >_<
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Post Post #2872 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:10 pm

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Hrmph. I thought I had mentioned how I was effectively fed up with how Seanald was acting at night, but I guess not. My read definitely went from stupidtown to stupidscum re: Coroner, and here's where I voted him:
In post 2790, Voidedmafia wrote:Lol. Grasping at straws much.

Vote: Seanald
Nvm, found it:
In post 2789, Voidedmafia wrote:Pretty good question. The amount of bidding stupidity is getting ridiculous now.
Yes, i'm aware I didn't call him scum, but it's as I said, I ran out of patience here and it's where he became at least a null-scum/scumread.

Though, I did say I agreed with the points you had raised against him. I just think (and right now still do think) that Nero's the better option, as tempting as it is to get rid of Seanald.
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Post Post #2873 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:09 pm

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In post 2868, Voidedmafia wrote:Why'd you only say Seanald even after both of us pressed you on it?
He is the one guaranteed to be scum on the wagon, the rest may or may not be. Why does it matter how many are on or off? Sounds too hypothetical to me with the what if question. Cross that bridge after we get there.
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Post Post #2874 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:33 pm

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In post 2831, Lost Butterfly wrote:Before we lynch, everyone claim what they advertised on N2.
We didn't advertise anything.
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