Signs and Void (Game Over) [TM2015]

[fferyllt]

ok I'm wrong. Nacho doesn't like AD's reaction.

We're talking about it.

But in the meanwhile, Mastin he wants you to know that he would never end a friendship over a mafia game.

BUT

ONE DAY

ONE

YOU CAN'T GIVE NACHO ONE DAY?

[Titus]

The way I see it, no one is working together right now, no one is compromising, people are melting into the night, not being held accountable, and being stubborn about who they want lynched when, based on the fact that after 80 pages we still have 6-7 different people being voted. Your appeal to someone who can't even vote is lofty at best.

How can I flail when I'm discussing the motivations of someone who isn't even voting me? I'm in no danger of getting lynched. I'm not shouting at you. I'm not marginalizing you. I'm simply pointing out where I saw the flaw in your plan and asking you to acknowledge it.

@Singer, That post makes no sense.

You complain no one is working together, yet you are complaining about me working with conftown.
You complain no one is compromising, while ignoring the fact I have been voting with my townreads.
You complain people are melting into the night, yet you don't explain what this means or who is doing it.
You complain no one is being stubborn while at the same time complaining no one is working together.
You complain about working with conftown because she cannot vote, as if that's a good reason not to.
You complain about no one pushing their targets while nitpicking me (who you won't lynch today) and not posting about Shadoweh.

You can flail because you don't feel you have a voice. That's exactly what this feels like. Oh and for good measure, I only have one vote and FFery does not want you lynched and Espy is the larger wagon.

This right here is it. Simply she's whining and bitching with no comprenisble train of thought and pushing wagons with zero shot of being lynched.

[Shadoweh]

TELL NACHO HE'S A VERY NICE FUCKO BUT DAN ISN'T SCUM

[Untrod Tripod]

People like UT paying attention to the literal numbers (idiotic as that is) will see one less vote and think the wagon is one less vote from being viable.

hey dipshit, I'm actually reading the game, I just would rather pull my eyelashes out 1 by 1 than participate in this clusterfuck

fuck it, I'll try to make this singer lynch happen.

at least that way mastin won't be get to "deserve" a lynch tomorrow

vote singer

[Cheetory6]

Why is whining and bitching scummy?
I honestly am inclined to agree with her that fleshing out reads with ffery is good, but your hydra/mechanics talk with her felt unnecessary.
I can see her POV on the lack of cohesion in the game given that AD is the first wagon that's happened since TTH which died off almost instantly because everyone was super fucking scared of it growing too fast.
I don't see anything in her ISO as 'flailing' as you've termed it.
I don't get this case at all. I get why people find singer scummy. I don't get why people found Empire scummy beyond his interactions with Tammy occasionally being a little dumb at times. I just really don't get it. Because I read a lot of how Empire was playing as being townish.
I also think it would be ridiculous just how much their team has had a stake in this game like. Their team is so open about their reads and stances and they're consistent in a way that just doesn't make any sense to me as coming from scum.
This isn't like a hard townread for me, but like I don't think it's particularly likely that singer is going to flip scum.

[Cheetory6]

Like, I get why this is happening. I just really can't get behind it after following singer/empire/zar's ISO.

[Untrod Tripod]

my kingdom for a dayvig....

I'd shoot mastin tho

[fferyllt]

TELL NACHO HE'S A VERY NICE FUCKO BUT DAN ISN'T SCUM

THAT WOULD BE SO MUCH MORE CONVINCING COMING FROM SOMEONE NOT VOTING SINGER

[Untrod Tripod]

Like, I get why this is happening. I just really can't get behind it after following singer/empire/zar's ISO.

are you kidding me? Empire's ISO screams "look super cocky so people won't try scumreading you"

[Cheetory6]

Wow ur rite.
i guess that UT guy is scum 2 then.

[Titus]

my kingdom for a dayvig....

I'd shoot mastin tho

Fuck no. That's a terrible vig shot.

[Cheetory6]

Man why the fuck were you so opposed to this wagon then?
Gah.
Gahhhhhh.
Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

p-edit: @ut

[Untrod Tripod]

my kingdom for a dayvig....

I'd shoot mastin tho

Fuck no. That's a terrible vig shot.

you're really undervaluing the benefits of not having to read mastin's posts

[mastin2]

Do you think you're doing the right thing?

Yes. As horrifying as the fear in me is that I could be wrong, that by doing this I'm going to cause a disaster, that I will regret it, that fear feels like nothing but just that: fear of a possibility. When everything tells me that going after singer is the right thing.

[Shadoweh]

TELL NACHO HE'S A VERY NICE FUCKO BUT DAN ISN'T SCUM

THAT WOULD BE SO MUCH MORE CONVINCING COMING FROM SOMEONE NOT VOTING SINGER

I am really sorry that I can't see the good in someone whose iso is dedicated to me being the Al Capone of Signville to the detriment of actually getting a lynch on someone. I expected to find less on other people in her iso, but she's been having long walks on the beach with Gamma suspicions that never turn into a case. I suspect TTH and I are easier targets, Gamma is popular.

[mastin2]

ONE DAY
ONE
YOU CAN'T GIVE NACHO ONE DAY?

I WANTED TO.
SO BADLY.
BUT I CAN'T.

[Titus]

my kingdom for a dayvig....

I'd shoot mastin tho

Fuck no. That's a terrible vig shot.

you're really undervaluing the benefits of not having to read mastin's posts

I love Mastina's posting. She's blunt, direct and transparent usually. So it's a punishment to not read them.

[fferyllt]

YOU CAN.

I KNOW YOU CAN

[Untrod Tripod]

my kingdom for a dayvig....

I'd shoot mastin tho

Fuck no. That's a terrible vig shot.

you're really undervaluing the benefits of not having to read mastin's posts

I love Mastina's posting. She's blunt, direct and transparent usually. So it's a punishment to not read them.

we obviously have very different definitions of all of those words

[Titus]

Umm Ffery it's about one day until the deadline for first lynch you wanted...so I don't think she can...


@UT, Not reaaly. Logic walls I love.

[fferyllt]

ALSO NACHO SAYS TO TELL PIE TO READ THE WHOLE GAME

[hitogoroshi]

VC 67 (Major Day 1, VC 29)

(6)

ActionDan:

DeasVail, singersigner, Formerfish, T S O, Espeonage, Aronis

(Cheetory6, Titus, Untrod Tripod)

[L-4]
(6)

singersigner:

Gammagooey, Bulbazak, mastin2, Titus, Shadoweh, Untrod Tripod

(Titus)

[L-4]
(5)

Espeonage:

ChannelDelibird, vezorpiraka, ActionDan, GuyInFreezer, Cheetory6

(Aronis)

(1)

formerfish:

TellTaleHeart

(mastin2)

(1)

TellTaleHeart:

Oversoul

(0)

Not Voting:

(Shadoweh)

With 19 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline is Saturday, April 25th, at 9PM CST.

Major Day One Deadline

(expired on 2015-04-25 20:00:00)

[Untrod Tripod]

Umm Ffery it's about one day until the deadline for first lynch you wanted...so I don't think she can...


@UT, Not reaaly. Logic walls I love.

look I could spend all day here saying mean things about mastin, but it's not going to give me a dayvig so there's no real point

I just want one of these lynches to happen so we can get on with this game

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: ad
Better this than singer!

(Is this a prod dodge? Might as well! Ika says this is a fun wagon)

[Gammagooey]

ffery I still think dismissing singer being uncomfortable and the way she's attacking people's reads on her with what seems like tons of sarcasm and mockery instead of 'hey that's wrong this is why' is really just wrong. I'll read over singer's scum game tomorrow sometime like you asked since its 2am after board games all day today. If you want to look up and find somewhere that singer's used this much belittling on people's reads on her then I'll probably give you a bit more credit on that but I think pretty strongly that the mocking sarcastic defense here is more likely to be coming from scum from the vast majority of people, and I have a hard time thinking singer in particular would be different. (especially among the other things I've mentioned already and her real hesitance to put out strong reads on people that could be wrong later)

I also think that singer's explanation of why she thought I was town for my bulba reasoning was really mediocre and her switch of opinion on me after my tiny meta post about her and then using as a shield over and over again instead of talking about her other reads and thoughts is really bad.