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In post 462, MariaR wrote:I won't accept any dances until the people who ask me feel like they townread me enough to want to dance with me ^_^

Mariar claims she will only pair with people who townread her.

In post 468, MariaR wrote:

In post 188, Shadow_step wrote:Let's do this again

Maria, we grooving together right?

The fact you say Groove makes me want to jump into a ditch

In post 212, Shadow_step wrote:And why do you wanna pair up with nahdia and get killed during intermission?

This is a really bad question I think anyone who partners up with nat is town or dumb scum

She voices negative opinions on Shadow's perspective. She later backpedals on this point and says 'omg why is everybody scumreading shadow'

In post 589, MariaR wrote: Pedit: Dunn I think you're town let me go with someone scummy so I can die with them
I know i'm really bad at giving reads so someone elses input is prob better then my own

Clear contradiction of motive with post 462 quoted above (I want to partner with people who townread me=/=partner me with somebody scummy), and also discredits her own reads. If she's aware her reads aren't helpful, why question shadow's scumreads?

In post 691, MariaR wrote:

In post 688, Dunnstral wrote:

MariaR

I'm making sure you get a partner dw ASK KAGAMI
I want gamma left behind over shadow and if ppl find him scummy I'll die with em

People find Shadow scummy, mariar refuses to die with him. This ties into the point smith was making on her survivalism.

In post 767, MariaR wrote:If gamma or Vedith leave and flip town I will auto leave.

Gamma and Vedith left, both flipped town, Mariar hasn't autoleft. Survivalism.

In post 794, MariaR wrote:Nat I'm not scum >.>
Pedit: YOU DIDN'T JOIN THE GAME TO DANCE WITH ME GAMMA SHADOW DID.
And no were not friends I hate your guts

In post 893, MariaR wrote:

In post 890, MiniDeathStar wrote:Oh I forgot to vote. VOTE: Shadow. Sorry your gentleman is scum Maria.

Meh I'm in the same boat as you of wanting to pick someone from the start :p

Claims shadow joined the game to partner with her (reads genuine), then claims that she wanted to pick somebody from the start of the game. This is not what happened pre-dance. Mariar had quite some deliberation over her partner. Literally a bold-faced lie or misrepresentation.

In post 907, MariaR wrote:

In post 899, Dunnstral wrote:Hey marioX

Do you have any scumreads outside of shadow/gamma/vedith

hint hint (not me)

I haven't really tried to scumhunt because I think I'm getting lynched and just haven't but I do have tr's on you smith para pie

There's two different Mariars. There's mariar in the thread, who is acting survivalistic and trying to not get lynched, and the mariar inside mariar's head, who is claiming and acting like she doesn't care about her lynch, and that her lynch is inevitable.

In post 940, MariaR wrote:

In post 921, Vedith wrote:

In post 919, Dunnstral wrote:Post 888 I strongly gut scumread



Might be the overexplanation/defensiveness of trying to defend Jester and making it clear she isn't going to determine his alignment

I don't like her push on shadow. I know that sounds weird because a lot of people are but I don't like her push on shadow

I'd like to see more from them first.
Jester is normally pretty easy to read, of course, this doesn't really help with the Mini situation.
I can't go into detail, but I can see a reason of Mini over explaining to a degree.

I didn't want to dance with Dunn because I tr him and I think it would've been better if he danced with a dif lady as all ladies must be picked and if Dunn got a scum lady I trust in him to be able to figure out if he got paired with a scum lady or a town lady where I already wanted to dance with shadow as I'm bias and since he was like "I don't wanna dance with anyone else" I felt if I didn't pick him and he was town I would've felt like an ass

She claimed that she wanted to dance with shadow since the start of the game, and then posts this. Double contradiction.
Also this whole post reeks of scum.

In post 971, MariaR wrote:

In post 968, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 961, MariaR wrote:I do think me and shadow should prob leave before lylo as much as I hate to admit it because I think shadow (and me slightly *glares at Vedith) will always be a pair people can jump on and if were both town that's a big uh oh

So do you think he's town or (shadow)

I think he's dull everything people have brought up like his tone is just very shadow like he's not really speaking much in the pt if I had to make a guess I'd say townlean but everyone is gonna push on us so I i'm prob gonna walk if we get the lynch wrong today

Claims shadow hasn't said anything in the PT. Beyond that, claims she'll walk if we lynch wrong. She then claims she'll just put it off until we lynch-kill-lynch. Vedith pointed out how silly this is here.

In post 1004, MariaR wrote:

In post 999, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 996, MariaR wrote:although scum me would 100% pair with smith or gamma

Or me if you wanted to win as scum y'know

real talk

Oh hell no I'd be scared af to go dance with you if I was scum cause I'd think you'd figure me out by comparing dances
Smith and gamma are easy to manipulate...dam why do I have a scum plan yet no town plan
*rechecks role pm*

'If I was scum, there's no way I'd pair up with Dunn! He can read me like a book!'
In pre-dance, mariar didn't want to pair up with Dunn for shoddy reasoning.

In post 1435, MariaR wrote:It was very clear I wanted to bias dance with shadow when he said he only wanted to dance with me
the offer wasn't sudden I wanted to make sure dunn got a partner because I had a tr on him and right when Kagami said yes I did aswell

This fails a simple fact check, Mariar never wanted to bias dance with Shadow and her reaction to shadow's offer isn't reflected in pre-dance.

In post 1520, MariaR wrote:

In post 1517, Parama wrote:

In post 1512, MariaR wrote:If anyone on the shadow wagon tr's me Get OFF IT
based on our PT I am strongly sure shadow is town

elaborate

He's acting extremely geninune to me I know you guys find his tone annoying but he's never bitchy to me and he keeps on saying sorry that I'm gonna die because of him I strongly think he's being honest.

Went from 'He's posted squat' to 'Strong and definite townread' in 500 posts. Not unfathomable, I suppose, but still a little farfetched.

In post 1652, MariaR wrote:btw if somehow our pair and gamma's pair are both town (and that I doubt)
Human needs to be lynched right after with 0 questions

What did she mean by this?

Her thoughts are scattered over a few posts here, so I'll abridge them and respond to them in unison.
She claims that shadow are doing some scumhunting in her PT (citation needed) and doesn't say anything about what that scumhunting actually is, and there isn't much reasoning for her to withhold at least the most powerful of scumreads. Again, it's been 700 posts and mariar has confirmed shadow as lock town AND they've discussed a whole bunch of reads. Read Mariar's PT w/ dunn in autumn masquerade and then get back at me at how legitimate that claim is.

In post 1866, MariaR wrote: I picked shadow cause I'm bias

THIS ISN'T TRUE

In post 1952, MariaR wrote:I don't think Shadow is scum what so ever but if gamma/Vedith somehow both flip town were gonna be the lowest hanging fruit for prob the rest of the game and should walk right after

She didn't.

In post 2384, MariaR wrote:Don't you dare try to do the "sheep vedith card" cause that's not gonna work you're not dumb HS there's no way me and shadow are both scum pick and make a case or better yet if you really think that make a case on both of us shouldn't be that hard.

'Oh fuck vedith was right better discredit that legitimate strategy that let town walk away with the game last time'

In post 2394, MariaR wrote:Good thing I wanted to pick my friend instead! sigh what a shame

Again. Not true.

This is where I lost interest in making the case but COME ON GUYS LYNCH THIS SCUM