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Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:23 pm
by Gorkington
In post 2845, SlySly wrote:Doggo & rb (day rushing, welcome to MS youngins. on this site a 7d15h54m deadline = lynch will be in 7d15h53m)
Not Fury (fake and shifting claims/crumbs)
yeah more words on these too while youre at it.
youre insinuating here that you think they think day rushing is good because theyre new.
why is it scummy then?
what makes not fury's shifting claims/crumbs more likely to come from scum vs town?

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:24 pm
by Titus
@SlySly, I have a list of people known to be town. You should at a minimum confirm or deny being on that list. Ein, Ed, Spiegel, and Black are the not full claimed on my clear list.

I really don't get your comments on me, especially the sub out comment.

@Gork, I've done enough tyvm.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:24 pm
by Siblings Quarrel
In post 2848, SlySly wrote:I knew I missed someone
HAH! FUNNY.
Also, can you explain the Tywin read to me and Frog? I don't get it here...I just...Don't.
-Ali

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:26 pm
by Gorkington
In post 2851, Titus wrote:@Gork, I've done enough tyvm.
oh theres the missing fire i was looking for thanks titus!
:')

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:28 pm
by Not Fury
In post 2845, SlySly wrote:
My last set of reads:
In post 1674, SlySly wrote:Obvtown: SQ
Probtown: Not Fury, Ram
Scum: Gamma, Tywin
My latest set of reads:

Obvtown:
SQ (obvreasons)
Gamma (Gamma knew he was the dayvig before the rest of us. When I voted him, he called bs on my vote because he thought it was random. When I told him to go flip the coin I posted and tell me how many times it took him to get it to land on tails, I'm sure he picked up on the sarcastic shot that my statement was and I'm sure his finger itched on his dayvig gun, but he didn't pull the trigger. After dayvig of Nero, if Gamma was opposing scum to Nero and listening to those reaching to try and tie me to Nero, he would have gladly and easily lead the charge to lynch me while I was away from the thread. Because he didn't dayvig me when I pushed him and he also went beyond the call of duty and insisted repeatedly that everyone wait for me to return, Gamma's either town or my scumbuddy on the scum team opposing Nero.)
Insomniacs (so obv explaining would be overkill)

the following 3 are obvtown for the same reason
(little content noticed by me, but lots of brain at work in what i did notice)
MariaR
Not Chara
ZZZX

Probtown:
Ram (feels exactly like town Ram I've played with before)

Unknown:
Titus (She will lure you in with perfume and honey and eat you after consummation then replace out.)
A50 (He should be named A 50/50 because that's how I always have him read.)

Earning scum points:
Doggo & rb (day rushing, welcome to MS youngins. on this site a 7d15h54m deadline = lynch will be in 7d15h53m)
Not Fury (fake and shifting claims/crumbs)
Carnelian (anyone that knows me, knows how I feel about millers. lurking millers are even worse)
PerV (It takes him a while to get going usually, but good when up and running. He's barely used the crank starter and the engine is still sputtering but basically taunting the thread that he's only skimming the game lights up my scumdar.)

Scum:
Tywin (obvscum, glad the pack seems to be catching up. he's so obvscum, it's almost a waste to lynch him.)
MasterVampire (Nos gives exact same vibes as last time I played with NosScum. If BTD6 was town, he'd already have the game broken and be pushing home his clear path to victory but he's barely made a peep this game)

I'll gladly support Tywin lynch, but I view him as already bagged scum. We're already up 1 with the GF out, so I'd much prefer this at this point...

VOTE: MasterVampire

I haven't had time to go back and pick through both of my wagons and do iso's for everyone's reasons for voting me, but I will. I'm sure doing so will fill in more blanks and adjust these reads. Thus far, the rest have barely caught my attention, outside of the whole Scott and Ramona vs Majiffy replace out debacle that struck me as NAI from both parties.

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To address the 'I'm only alive because I was being waited for crowd', I'll gladly claim flavor and role if that's the general consensus, but I'd prefer not to. I'm not at L-1 and I don't feel like things are headed in that direction.
this is probably the dumbest thing I've read since "just wuz were yes no alike is are q = s y?"

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:28 pm
by Not Fury
oh fuck shoulda spoilered that

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:31 pm
by Titus
In post 2853, Gorkington wrote:
In post 2851, Titus wrote:@Gork, I've done enough tyvm.
oh theres the missing fire i was looking for thanks titus!
:')
This must be sarcastic...I think.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:33 pm
by Tywin Lannister
In post 2842, Gorkington wrote:
@tywin:


can i have a comprehensive readlist from you?
pls and ty.
Like I haven't given them all game long? If I'm gonna get quicklynched, explain why I should waste my time?. Not a single vote on me has a reason. They're literally all naked votes. Shit that gets questioned in normal games. Not in multiball though. I wonder why?/s

I've made a case on sly. Nobody has made one on me. Flip sly and you'd see I'm right, but that won't happen. Not gonna be able to swing a scum double team off me when the counter is actual scum.

If I'm about to get lynched I'll make the list.

Main SRs:

NC - Not town NC whatsoever. This should be obvious to anyone that has played with her as town before.

Sly - I've made the case on him before anyone ever mentioned him. That's when insomniacs started hard defending him like the scum buddy they are

Insomniacs - pushed both gamma and me, even called us scum buddies and kept repeating it with sly. It was ridiculous and not town motivated at all, but now that gamma shot scum, apparently it's just me that's called scum, even though their SR was based on gamma + me

MariaR - scum joining her teams' push. Lurker slot that has never scum hunted or has any reason to vote me. Just says 'scum scum scum' randomly after I'm a wagon. Yeah, okay Maria. Great case. Surely town /s. She's only added after her recent crap since I didn't even know she was in the game before she claimed I was obv scum without being able to give a single reason why.

Haven't paid attention to the rest, but NF is obv town, siblings are obv town, you/wall are obv town, one of rb/Titus are town but maybe not both (lovers/siblings can and many times are Scum/Town, especially in multiball), Doggo is prob town.

The rest idgaf about or cant think of off the top of my head. Like who the fuck is randommidget and why is he voting me? Where did they come from?

Pedit: what's the case on master vampire? Where do these wagons even come from?

Also, Titus doing this flavor crap is stupid. I've crumbed mine enough but get naked voted by them. Insomniacs saw it for sure, unvoted after, and then revoted me after seeing nobody else cared. Shit is obvious when you look for it.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:34 pm
by Gorkington
you really think that an entire scumteam dogpiles like that on day one?
thats your experience with how scum plays?

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:37 pm
by Not Chara
Tywin, you played with me in a Mini and the tail-end of Timeshift. tell me you have better meta than that (or a scumgame to compare to, because the notion that i can't play different in two towngames in very different environments is pretty much crap) and i'll believe you're town. :>

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:39 pm
by Not Chara
you haven't answered what's suspect about my Sly scumread or how i approached it with Doggo, either.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:41 pm
by Tywin Lannister
In post 2858, Gorkington wrote:you really think that an entire scumteam dogpiles like that on day one?
thats your experience with how scum plays?
In multiball? Fuck yes they do. Scum will both double team any lynch not on their own team. If it's town, they smell blood and go for it.

In regular games? No. In games this large? With less than half probably town? You think scum won't double team town?

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:43 pm
by Titus
In post 2857, Tywin Lannister wrote:Also, Titus doing this flavor crap is stupid. I've crumbed mine enough but get naked voted by them. Insomniacs saw it for sure, unvoted after, and then revoted me after seeing nobody else cared. Shit is obvious when you look for it.
If it's obvious, then tell me if you're on my list. *shrug* I am terrible with crumbs.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:43 pm
by Gorkington
well, i mean, i dont really think insomniacs is scum in the first place.
i will say that i think that math cares enough about their scumgame that they would probably be trying to be a little more subtle than that if they are scum here.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:44 pm
by Insomniacs
In post 2838, Scott and Ramona wrote:
In post 2700, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 2699, Not Fury wrote:Cerb, who do you instead propose we lynch?
You're being annoying, end the fucking day and don't even suggest moving somewhere else.
This frustration seems a little unwarranted.

Not Fury was the first one to point out how Sly is probably Nero's partner and just screamed for the day to end shortly before reiterating what lead her believe that Sly is teamed with Nero.
In post 2723, Insomniacs wrote:
Spoiler: SLY posts with scum hunting
In post 492, SlySly wrote:
In post 453, rb wrote:SlySly - Wall is cool and all and I certainly am delighted by his persona and have said so.

but why are your only real contributions to the thread about this persona?
After happy hour and wine later, reading Wall made me envision him dreaming about Wall posts for months and being in meetings at work thinking of ways to top his own greatness. It's a self imposed flogging. It's still making me laugh.

My first post about Not Fury was a real contribution. One word, pineapples.
In post 1125, SlySly wrote:
In post 763, Ramcius wrote:
In post 754, Chairman Doggo wrote:well your tywin vote was junk and your 750 was even more junk

like how fucking hard can you reach bro that was terrible
as much as i need to lynch scums, but if you think "he's obv town, cause he complains for 30 pages to read" is a pro town play, it's your right, but your reads are much more reachy than mine
I was in Timeshifters and I agree with Ram. Tywin's signature scum bloating is hard to miss. When Tywin posts more than 2 lines, I immediately ignore.

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In post 764, Hiraki wrote:I read my predecessor before joining games to make sure I have a clean slate but nice try
This sounds like fear of exposing your true scum self.

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In post 767, Chairman Doggo wrote:and you just admitted that your reads were reachy too
This sounds like you're admitting yours are.

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In post 827, Siblings Quarrel wrote:
In post 439, SlySly wrote:Nachos and wine = mighty fine!
Remember that time we did laundry with nacho and had wine

-Ribbit
It is unforgettable!

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In post 947, KidAmn wrote: Because I'm a deeply introspective special child. :roll:
An Innocent Child? Andrius, is that you?!
In post 967, KidAmn wrote:Pedit 2: oh u Rach. Oh. U. I'm about as coachable as Tim Tebow
Nope, not Andrius. I invited him. He said he was too busy, I was hoping he lied and was incognito. :(

Hmmm, there is that Wall. :idea:

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In post 1007, rb wrote: THIS GAME IS VERY FLAVOUR INTENSIVE, ITS IMPORTANT
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In post 1077, Not Fury wrote:Wow, you completely ignored the quoted text and did more defensive stuff. Everyone else here thinks I'm shit though, so fuck it. What's the biggest wagon?

VOTE: Gamma

Sorry for trying.
Gamma v Tywin is striking me as a Greyhound Lines commercial

They are voting each other. Both have been throwing votes around to see what sticks.

Ram's on Tywim, Not Fury's on Gamma. I have TR on Ram and NF.

I'm good with either of these.

Gamma
Tywin

Heads = Gamma
Tails = Tywin

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VOTE: Gamma
In post 1674, SlySly wrote:I see some complaining about my post count. Just a little update about the life of Sly for the uninformed.

I'm a single dad.
I have 2 kids, 1 has autism.
I have a full time job.
I have a gf and we go do stuff.
This weekend, I had company. I have a date tomorrow and more company is coming Tuesday.

This game is a 32 player game that is expected to be a post explosion game, and it has been, but I've actually been in games that were moving faster than this one. I have read the entire game. I have not reviewed what I have read, nor have I iso'd anyone. When I'm reading, the things people I'm familiar with stand out to me more than those I'm not familiar with. Then there's hydra's with people I've played with, but I don't realize it's them until the game gets rolling. Then we have the incognito player(s), i.e. The Wall. And there's PerV. Has he even posted? He always seems to be invisible until around D4.

I haven't reviewed those jumping on to my wagon and why yet, but at the moment, these are the closest things I have to reads.

Obvtown: SQ
Probtown: Not Fury, Ram
Scum: Gamma, Tywin


You're literally saying sly because some random person picked them for not being able to keep out with the level of activity. STOP IT.

SLY SLY has taken concrete stances on things. Are you actually going to interact with those stances or are you just going to say "HERP HERP NOT POSTING ENOUGH". Because lynching someone because they have a life is atrocious.

-- Math
Math, it really feels like you're stretching here. None of the stances you describe here as concrete don't look like they have any depth to them. Where is the scum hunting? There are zero attempts to really probe.

Also, why haven't you gotten back to me on our crumbs conversation?

- Scott
*glares* That first question is so broad I could run my SUV through it.

Furthermore about the crumbs I didn't reply because you said you saw where I was coming from. If you did then there is nothing further to talk about.

--Math

Will catch up on the rest tomorrow super tired.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:44 pm
by Tywin Lannister
In post 2860, Not Chara wrote:you haven't answered what's suspect about my Sly scumread or how i approached it with Doggo, either.
You just brought sly up randomly when I've been mentioning him since the early part of the game, but you never mentioned him before. That was when I thought gamma was scum, but that's not the point anymore. You didn't mention sly all game like I did, yet you randomly go to doggo and steer him specifically to sly? That's definitely odd.

Regardless, my read on you is based on meta reasons. I've seen you play town enough to see a pattern that isn't existent here. Maybe you're on the other scum team rather than Slys idk. You won't be lynched anytime soon regardless so not like it matters yet.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:46 pm
by Chairman Doggo
In post 2826, Gorkington wrote:WOE IS ME. ACK. ALAS. SCUM HATH TAKEN CONTROL OF THE GAME AND TOWN ARE FOOLS. REPENT. REPENT YE OF LITTLE FAITH
yeah this is exactly how i read them lmao

anyway i forgot where i left off in reading and it's 1:30 am so im. not

im kind of ok with slysly's last post zzzzzz (though lol @ the me/rb read and nf). neros vote on him was bad and bussyish but meh

no clue who our vote is on UNVOTE:

VOTE: cerb

let's do this zzzzzzzz :dead:

case tomorrow if wanted unless t changes this vote

pedit: tywin kinda strikes me as that kind of person zzz
Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2858, Gorkington wrote:you really think that an entire scumteam dogpiles like that on day one?
thats your experience with how scum plays?
In multiball? Fuck yes they do. Scum will both double team any lynch not on their own team. If it's town, they smell blood and go for it.

In regular games? No. In games this large? With less than half probably town? You think scum won't double team town?
all i remember from last game is that one scumteam (the evil ones) just kept bussing each other while i think the other (red dragon syndicate) i dont think ever posted besides rach marie

anyway im crashing so dont expect serious engagement from me here on out 2nite zzzzzzz

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:46 pm
by SlySly
In post 2850, Gorkington wrote:youre insinuating here that you think they think day rushing is good because theyre new.
why is it scummy then?
I know they are not new. Meet sarcasm. I'm old school, day rushing seems very impatient and opportunistic to me. "Let's lynch this scummy ahole since he's not here to defend himself, there's still almost 8 days left before deadline but this day has dragged on for sooooo long." Gimme a break. Almost every game I've played where there was a lynch long before the deadline early in the game, it's been a mislynch and the scum rushing it through laughed it up.
In post 2851, Titus wrote:@SlySly, I have a list of people known to be town. You should at a minimum confirm or deny being on that list. Ein, Ed, Spiegel, and Black are the not full claimed on my clear list.

I really don't get your comments on me, especially the sub out comment.

@Gork, I've done enough tyvm.
Sorry, I am confusing you with Blade Dancer.

I'm not Ein, Ed, Spiegel, or Black
In post 2854, Not Fury wrote:this is probably the dumbest thing I've read since "just wuz were yes no alike is are q = s y?"
Sorry, I'm a programmer. I speak in formulas sometimes.
In post 2852, Siblings Quarrel wrote:Also, can you explain the Tywin read to me and Frog? I don't get it here...I just...Don't.
-Ali
Ram hammered it home in 748. Tywin entered this game wall posting Straight Outta Timeshift.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:48 pm
by Titus
@SlySly, Blade Dancer is my alt and I think it may have subbed out once. You're stuck with me through the long haul.

Also, ty. That's what I needed.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:49 pm
by Not Fury
No I mean dumb since your reads really don't make sense to me. And it just doesn't inspire confidence in you.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:50 pm
by Not Chara
In post 2865, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2860, Not Chara wrote:you haven't answered what's suspect about my Sly scumread or how i approached it with Doggo, either.
You just brought sly up randomly when I've been mentioning him since the early part of the game, but you never mentioned him before. That was when I thought gamma was scum, but that's not the point anymore. You didn't mention sly all game like I did, yet you randomly go to doggo and steer him specifically to sly? That's definitely odd.

Regardless, my read on you is based on meta reasons. I've seen you play town enough to see a pattern that isn't existent here. Maybe you're on the other scum team rather than Slys idk. You won't be lynched anytime soon regardless so not like it matters yet.
two things:
1) since when does someone have to mention a player all game in order to notice them?
2) did you even look at the context of that? i didn't bring up Sly to Doggo. someone brought up Sly and i was online so i asked Doggo for the read. they answered scum, gave why, and i agreed.

meta: you should go into this more. what are you seeing in past games that isn't here? why aren't you taking the context of this game into account? this game is huge and i haven't even read all of it. i just want to thin the herd.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:50 pm
by Siblings Quarrel
And in Timeshift where you were town, you nullread PV for being PV and PV is doing the exact same, yet, he's scum here...
I don't get that dude.

Also, you never really responded to Gork and my question about 2600, but I think you're getting to that.

Tywins meta is that he is a wallposter.
Can you explain how his wallposting is similar to Timeshift specificly?
-Ali

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:51 pm
by Not Chara
In post 1497, Chairman Doggo wrote:COULD LYNCH SLY I WONDER HOW GIGA FEELS ABOUT THE SLOT

~T
In post 1499, Not Chara wrote:Doggo do you have a read on SlySly or is he just null?
like honestly. how did you miss this Tywin? did you just ISO me and look for something to bite on?

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:56 pm
by Tywin Lannister
In post 2862, Titus wrote:
In post 2857, Tywin Lannister wrote:Also, Titus doing this flavor crap is stupid. I've crumbed mine enough but get naked voted by them. Insomniacs saw it for sure, unvoted after, and then revoted me after seeing nobody else cared. Shit is obvious when you look for it.
If it's obvious, then tell me if you're on my list. *shrug* I am terrible with crumbs.
I know insomniacs noticed it. Idk if I'm on your list. I'm not a main character, so I doubt it. Only reason i crumbed at all was becsuse you and rb kept saying to do it. I know my two card playing buddies know better though.

Pedit: wtf, I'm SR for wall posts? Half of you have played with me before. Most when I was town. Lol smh

Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:56 pm
by MariaR
Okay Tywin First of all I am a replacement I haven't been lurking I just got in this game today
Second of all I was the first person to vote you but the vote got reset so I had to revote you
Lastly I've seen obv town you I have hard defended you before because you were super very obv town and this isn't it