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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:01 am
by Ircher
Day 2 VC #23Golden Robster (3) - , ,
Creature (0) -
Kublai Khan (1) -
WhemeStar (0) -
Hopkirk (0) -
EspeciallyTheLies (0) -
JarJarDrinks (1) -
Andriod18 (1) -
Texcat (0) -
TehBrawlGuy (0) -
Vaxkiller (1) -
Wavemode (1) -
PenguinPower (4) - , , ,
Myloninja13 (3) - , ,
Scioness Sajj (0) -
Flavor Leaf (1) -
Not Voting (6) - Frozen Angel, Scioness Sajj, , , ,

Lynch ThresholdDuring day 2, it takes 12 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline
Day 2 ends on July 14, 2018 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-07-14 20:00:00).

Moderator NotesFrozen Angel is V/LA until July 11.
Seeking a replacement for EspeciallyTheLies.
Prodded Pine. He has (expired on 2018-07-12 09:49:40) to respond in-thread.
If you have consistent weekend V/LA, you must remind me every weekend, or I will prod you. Alternatively, you can set V/LA tags each weekend.
If you notice any mistakes, please point them out. (That includes looking at the voting history.)

Spoiler: Current Voting History
Day 2Dunnstral: -->
Golden Robster: --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> -->
Pine:
Creature: -->
Kublai Khan: --> -->
WhemeStar: --> -->
Hopkirk: --> --> ==>
Gamma Emerald: -->
Ausuka
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Lalendra: --> --> --> --> -->
EspeciallyTheLies:
JarJarDrinks: --> --> --> --> --> --> -->
Andriod18: -->
Texcat: -->
ArcAngel9 (1):
TehBrawlGuy: -->
Vaxkiller: -->
Wavemode: --> --> -->
PenguinPower: --> --> --> -->
Myloninja13:
Flavor Leaf: --> --> -->


Spoiler: Previous Voting History
Day 1
Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral (5): --> --> --> -->
Srceenplay
(0): (Null)
Performer
(5): --> --> --> --> *
Joral
(0): (Null)
Almost50
(8): --> --> --> --> --> --> -->
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13): --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> [[ost=1798](Null) (1798)[/post]
Pine (2): -->
Creature (6): --> --> --> --> -->
Kublai Khan (6): --> --> --> --> -->
WhemeStar (3): --> -->
Hopkirk (9): --> --> --> --> --> --> --> -->
Edosurist (2): -->
Gamma Emerald (3): --> --> --> ^
Ausuka
(9): --> --> --> --> --> --> --> -->
Lalendra (3): --> -->
EspeciallyTheLies (2): -->
Lovebird (1):
Davesaz (1):
Frozen Angel (3): --> -->
JarJarDrinks (8): --> --> --> --> --> --> -->
Osuka
(10): --> --> --> --> --> --> --> --> -->
Texcat (4): --> --> -->
Andriod18 (4): --> --> -->
ArcAngel9 (4): --> --> -->
Charles510 (2): -->
Vaxkiller (8): --> --> --> --> --> --> -->
Wavemode (5): --> --> --> -->
TheRampage (3): --> -->
PenguinPower (1):
Myloninja13 (4): --> --> -->
Scioness Sajj (4): --> --> -->
Flavor Leaf (1):

Pre-GameDunnstral (2): -->
Srceenplay
(1):
Pine (1):
Kublai Khan (1):
Hopkirk (1):
Edosurist (1):
Osuka
(2): -->
Texcat (1):
Wavemode (1):

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:03 am
by Golden Robster
In post 2820, Flavor Leaf wrote:Yet you all forced the second mason to claim. There was literally no reason for it.
yes because people scumread you for being scummy what a suprise ho ho ho

do you get my sarcasm?

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:04 am
by Lalendra
In post 2841, Flavor Leaf wrote:I was already conf town before. Now I’m confirmed conf town.
I...what

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:04 am
by Golden Robster
In post 2153, Golden Robster wrote:Meh: JJD, FL, Texcat, AA9, Whemestar

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:05 am
by Golden Robster
In post 2772, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 2769, Flavor Leaf wrote:I would like to go Penguin or GROB today. Lalendra could be scum, but like Mylo, I think that’s better for another day.
You have a very weak reason to scum read me based on my history with you, and you know it.

If we can get a GR wagon going, I will be glad to lynch that.

Mylo is scum though.
In post 2775, PenguinPower wrote:VOTE: Golden Rob
mylo is scum but you're voting me?

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:07 am
by Scioness Sajj
In post 2847, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2846, Scioness Sajj wrote:
In post 2696, Dunnstral wrote:Mason partner doesn't claim today

There's no reason why we have to go after flavor leaf today, if he were lying we'd figure it out eventually and he wouldn't get away
Thos something to look back at if GRob flips scum.
I 100% agree with what Dunn said. Dunn is lock town from my perspective.
do you have a reason to think that Dunn would trust you on your word alone?
i have no problem with Dunn's apporach on it's own, but i do think this is telling if rob was scum gambiting.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:08 am
by Scioness Sajj
In post 2715, Flavor Leaf wrote:If second mason claims,
I will hard defend Mylo, because Mylo is obv town.
How's mylo obvtown? How much expirence do you have with him?

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:09 am
by Golden Robster
In post 2797, PenguinPower wrote:Um. He faked claimed mason and then didn't give a reason when asked why he did it? Didn't really care until mason were actually confirmed.
nice misrep though
In post 2636, Golden Robster wrote:was hoping FL would engage me throughout that; it would of helped me gauge him
In post 2645, Golden Robster wrote:his response to my gambit that I was interested in

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:14 am
by Scioness Sajj
In post 2716, texcat wrote:Sigh. Flavor Leaf is not a mason. It seems unlikely that the game contains masons AND neighbors, possibly but unlikely. It's not possible that FL's first claim is his true role. Just go look at his meta. He makes many claims during a game and I don't think the first one has ever been true. I've never understood the motivation for doing this, but I don't think it necessarily means he's scum.
This is extremely passive stance, is this normal? You expect Flavor to fake claim, you think it's nai and that's about it.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:18 am
by Golden Robster
it doesn't matter if you're mason or not, we don't know this so stop acting like everybody pushing you was scum

softclaiming strong PR and saying you would be conf!town while acting scummy (gave prior reasoning suggesting that you were town doing this) which lead to you being pushed and wagoned isn't my fault so stop acting like a crybaby

then when I claimed as your mason partner i was hoping for three options

A) you responding to my gambit (accepting it)
B) not responding to my gambit (no validation)
C) responding to my gambit and saying I'm a liar

the fact that you didn't respond to my gambit meant that I had to retract which meant that the wagon continued which then meant you outed your mason partner

why do you think scum!GR does all of this in return for spotlight attention and votes?

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:20 am
by Golden Robster
to be clear I was hoping for
A) you responding to my gambit (accepting it)
protecting masons is important is good play but you not responding to me didn't help at all

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:22 am
by Golden Robster
literally posted a minute after you; all I needed was one post validating my fakeclaim

that's it

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:23 am
by Golden Robster
In post 2820, Flavor Leaf wrote:Yet you all forced the second mason to claim. There was literally no reason for it.

It would have EASILY been confirmed in a day or two. Never do that again.
THERE WAS NO REASON FOR YOU TO SOFTCLAIM STRONG PR AND SAY YOU WOULD BE CONFTOWN

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:23 am
by Scioness Sajj
In post 2746, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m also town reading this Scion fella.
if you are town reading me for not pushing your partner to claim then i have not done it intentionally

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:25 am
by Scioness Sajj
In post 2749, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2747, Scioness Sajj wrote:I need to stop readin, will be back in an hour.

Flavor - why didn't you vote in the neighborhood D1. Didn't you suspect it is likely scum would be in the hood since you are mason?
No. I actually think there isn’t scum in he neighborhood, despite Wave’s play his day phase.

Me being a mason is exactly why i wanted the neighborhood to be left alone for a bit so i could analyze more.

The vengeful modifier in the neighborhood, along with masons and IC in the Neighbor is basically begging that Vengeful to shoot Wave, and from a setup design perspective, I can’t see that slot being scum really. I also town read Wave, and right now I’m probably just seeing Wave as scummy out of spite for being obnoxious.

Wave’s still on my wagon, and i wouldn’t mind lynching there, but I’m gonna go after the other people, but i would join Wave if need be, if that makes sense.
that's fair.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:25 am
by Golden Robster
In post 2314, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 2310, Flavor Leaf wrote:I crumb more as scum than town.
In post 2229, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m probably a super strong PR this game and lurking for that reason.
In post 2234, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m never getting lynched this game.
In post 2240, Flavor Leaf wrote:I can conftown myself this game.
In post 2242, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m going to conftown myself by the end of Day 4.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:27 am
by Golden Robster
In post 2362, Golden Robster wrote:he's softclaiming a strong PR

if he's vt, then he's acting as a decent nk bait


if he's actually pr, then he's painting a big target on himself (unlikely)

if he's scum then he's bringing unneeded attention to himself by acting scummy and saying he'll be conftown

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:28 am
by Gamma Emerald
UNVOTE: Actually maybe Rob has a point

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:29 am
by Scioness Sajj
In post 2753, Hopkirk wrote:I've made four or five reads lists so far this game. Not even Flavour Leaf actually noticed the crumb.
weird way to crumb. having somebody that isn't participating much as null doesn't really look like crumbing.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:31 am
by Scioness Sajj
i mean he was jumping through your readlist but you know what i mean

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:32 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2868, Scioness Sajj wrote:
In post 2753, Hopkirk wrote:I've made four or five reads lists so far this game. Not even Flavour Leaf actually noticed the crumb.
weird way to crumb. having somebody that isn't participating much as null doesn't really look like crumbing.
It was the way the name was written

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:33 am
by Golden Robster
In post 2824, Flavor Leaf wrote:I think today need some to be GROB vs Penguin.
not doing this gladiator shit even though pp is being hella scummy right now

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:36 am
by Golden Robster
In post 2867, Gamma Emerald wrote:UNVOTE: Actually maybe Rob has a point
yes I do have a point because talk to me scum motivation for fakeclaiming mason partner then retracting before he engages?

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:37 am
by PenguinPower
In post 2857, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 2797, PenguinPower wrote:Um. He faked claimed mason and then didn't give a reason when asked why he did it? Didn't really care until mason were actually confirmed.
nice misrep though
In post 2636, Golden Robster wrote:was hoping FL would engage me throughout that; it would of helped me gauge him
In post 2645, Golden Robster wrote:his response to my gambit that I was interested in
Not a misrep...I didn't see it.

In post 2859, Golden Robster wrote:it doesn't matter if you're mason or not, we don't know this so stop acting like everybody pushing you was scum

softclaiming strong PR and saying you would be conf!town while acting scummy (gave prior reasoning suggesting that you were town doing this) which lead to you being pushed and wagoned isn't my fault so stop acting like a crybaby

then when I claimed as your mason partner i was hoping for three options

A) you responding to my gambit (accepting it)
B) not responding to my gambit (no validation)
C) responding to my gambit and saying I'm a liar

the fact that you didn't respond to my gambit meant that I had to retract which meant that the wagon continued which then meant you outed your mason partner

why do you think scum!GR does all of this in return for spotlight attention and votes?
I guess this could make sense sense, but fake claiming as town is just bad. I mean, you didn't know that he was mason, so I don't get what you were hoping for if A) occurred; don't get why you voted and pushed when B) did occur; or, what you hoped for if C) occurred.

Why does town!GR do this to begin with?

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:38 am
by Scioness Sajj
In post 2784, Hopkirk wrote:I want to look through Lovebird and Scion to see what their activity looks like as other alignments.
I need to reread Robster at some point. He's a good candidate for active scum.
If I had to sort Pine, I'd say town.
Wheme/Lalendra/ArcTBG aren't likely to be leaving my scumpool.
Android I want to reread.
Mylo/KK I can leave.
I'm active as both alignments, slightly less I scum I guess. I have four games finished but none of them have as low activity level as this one.