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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:16 am
by Moongrass
In post 2846, Creature wrote:I still think mbaki is town, but it seems like we're going to mislynch her anyway
Does it? Why does it look like we're going to mislynch mbaki, and not DDL, who was at L-1 when you jumped off?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:17 am
by Creature
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:17 am
by Creature
Oka is also unlikely to be partnered with mbaki.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:19 am
by Moongrass
@creature: if you believe we're mislynching mbaki, then what is the point of you voting Oka, when your logic is saying he is not the lynch?
This stinks of self-preservation and distancing.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:19 am
by Creature
Have you ever considered the possibility that the reason Oka and mbaki are both getting resistance is that they've done a lot of things that generally only high level scum can do?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:20 am
by Creature
In post 2853, Moongrass wrote:@creature: if you believe we're mislynching mbaki, then what is the point of you voting Oka, when your logic is saying he is not the lynch?
This stinks of self-preservation and distancing.
I'm afraid of the lynch lineup here.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:21 am
by Moongrass
Stop dodging the question. Why are you voting Oka and why now? Do you actually want us to lynch him, or are trying to avoid a mislynch wagon?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:31 am
by Moongrass
I thought so.
VOTE: Creature
Buddy is either Oka, or mbaki. Congratulations Varsoon, you get the lynch you wanted.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:32 am
by Creature
My hope is that Oka will flip scum so I will be cleared.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:33 am
by Creature
I don't townread Oka enough anyway.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:35 am
by Creature
Sure, I'm trying to bus my buddy to preserve myself instead of just sticking with DDL.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:37 am
by Kmd4390
So I still need to read, but I was thinking before I started and I'm realizing that my reason for thinking mbaki and drdoolittle could both be town is coming from the fact that I think Varsoon is town. After I catch up, I need to look back at mbaki's point and see if Varsoon is actually clear because I feel like not everyone felt he was and if he's scum, maybe it's as simple as mbaki or drdoolittle is just his partner. I'm gonna read now though.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:41 am
by Moongrass
Your voting behaviour says he's your buddy. Both roles could be bs, which I can see, and which you may have slipped when you said you thought both scum were VT claims.
Your x-shot role doesn't make sense with the UB. Oka's role doesn't make sense full stop. Oka wouldn't leave Suka alone about whether or not she was x-shot. You defended my push on Oka by asking me to prove his role didn't make sense.
You don't believe for a second that Oka will be lynched, therefore, your only reason to vote him is to either avoid a mislynch, or to distance. I think it's both as you somehow believe that by voting Oka it will clear either of you.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:46 am
by Moongrass
In post 2860, Creature wrote:
Sure, I'm trying to bus my buddy to preserve myself instead of just sticking with DDL.
You know he won't be lynched. A vote isn't enough. Tell us why we should vote Oka?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:55 am
by Creature
In post 2862, Moongrass wrote:Both roles could be bs, which I can see, and which you may have slipped when you said you thought both scum were VT claims.
Your x-shot role doesn't make sense with the UB. Oka's role doesn't make sense full stop. Oka wouldn't leave Suka alone about whether or not she was x-shot. You defended my push on Oka by asking me to prove his role didn't make sense.
My role can be proved if Varsoon targets me
Also, why tf would Oka fakeclaim ascetic if Suka hinted targeting Oka?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:56 am
by Creature
Then how is it self-preservation if my vote won't do nothing? If it was self-preservation I would try something that may actually succeed?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:57 am
by Creature
tbh I'm fine with either Oka or DDL, but it's up to Varsoon.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:01 pm
by Kmd4390
In post 2545, Creature wrote:
In post 2174, mbaki wrote: In post 2160, Suka wrote:N1 - Varsoon - no action (consistent with claim)
N2 - mbaki - towny action, no need to claim
N3 - kmd - towny action, no need to claim
VT is not "townie action", it's no action.
Why I don't get paranoid of mbaki rn
Why can't that just be scum who didn't act N2 and wants an investigative role lynched?
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I'm not gonna be able to do this now, sorry. My mind is fried and I need a good night's sleep. Maybe I'll try again tonight, but tomorrow is looking more likely. I don't go back to work until February 5 so once I get caught up, I'm here a lot more.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:07 pm
by mbaki
In post 2848, Moongrass wrote:I'm struggling to accept that Creature could have changed his meta this much because realistically, that's the only thing really giving him town credence.
This is my thoughts. Creature is like 3rd or 4th tier lynch for me right now.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:07 pm
by Moongrass
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:07 pm
by mbaki
In post 2863, Moongrass wrote: In post 2860, Creature wrote:
Sure, I'm trying to bus my buddy to preserve myself instead of just sticking with DDL.
You know he won't be lynched. A vote isn't enough. Tell us why we should vote Oka?
Huh? DDL has almost been lynched twice, you yourself gave intent.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:08 pm
by mbaki
In post 2857, Moongrass wrote:I thought so.
VOTE: Creature
Buddy is either Oka, or mbaki. Congratulations Varsoon, you get the lynch you wanted.
Creature busses, why would it not be DDL?
Granted, I know I get lynched if Creature flips red here and if that happens I will be much more accepting of it because I admit our associations are mostly soft defense of each other. But there is still going to be the lynch between Oka and DDL after, and I don't get why Oka would still be scum in that world?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:09 pm
by Moongrass
In post 2870, mbaki wrote: In post 2863, Moongrass wrote: In post 2860, Creature wrote:
Sure, I'm trying to bus my buddy to preserve myself instead of just sticking with DDL.
You know he won't be lynched. A vote isn't enough. Tell us why we should vote Oka?
Huh? DDL has almost been lynched twice, you yourself gave intent.
What are you asking?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:10 pm
by mbaki
In post 2867, Kmd4390 wrote: In post 2545, Creature wrote:
In post 2174, mbaki wrote: In post 2160, Suka wrote:N1 - Varsoon - no action (consistent with claim)
N2 - mbaki - towny action, no need to claim
N3 - kmd - towny action, no need to claim
VT is not "townie action", it's no action.
Why I don't get paranoid of mbaki rn
Why can't that just be scum who didn't act N2 and wants an investigative role lynched?
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I'm not gonna be able to do this now, sorry. My mind is fried and I need a good night's sleep. Maybe I'll try again tonight, but tomorrow is looking more likely. I don't go back to work until February 5 so once I get caught up, I'm here a lot more.
You are aware deadline is a bit over a day from now, right?
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:10 pm
by Moongrass
In post 2865, Creature wrote:
Then how is it self-preservation if my vote won't do nothing? If it was self-preservation I would try something that may actually succeed?
You mean like not outting yourself on a mislynch wagon?