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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:09 am
by Titus
In post 2842, Rick Dalton wrote:I can’t really put it into words, but I think Profii might be scum.
Well, I could see Profli!scum protecting Garmr (regardless of Garmr alignment).

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:09 am
by Rick Dalton
In post 2843, profii wrote:
In post 2842, Rick Dalton wrote:I can’t really put it into words, but I think Profii might be scum.
Nah
Aight, I’ll take your word for it.

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:10 am
by Rick Dalton
In post 2850, Titus wrote:
In post 2842, Rick Dalton wrote:I can’t really put it into words, but I think Profii might be scum.
Well, I could see Profli!scum protecting Garmr (regardless of Garmr alignment).
That was like the cherry on the sundae for me.

I don’t like the stances he’s been taking overall, if that makes sense.

It always seems like it’s more for gamestate manipulation and political than actually him thinking it.

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:12 am
by Titus
I am kinda jaded on Garmr given our last game

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:12 am
by profii
I would enjoy a garmr lynch

But I dont think he is smart enough to do those wacky claims as scum

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:18 am
by texcat
In post 2854, profii wrote:I would enjoy a garmr lynch

But I dont think he is smart enough to do those wacky claims as scum
I don't understand this. Are you saying he is smart enough as town? The scum have an entire team to help work out fake claims. Do you not think any of them are smart enough?

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:21 am
by AaronFrost
I still think Garmr is town actually.

Bad play is bad play, but this feels like a bad townie play to me.

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:24 am
by AaronFrost
Profii hasn't really been on my radar honestly. His posts have felt mostly townie to me. I don't think scum would defend Garmr here.

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:25 am
by Tchill13
In post 2855, texcat wrote:
In post 2854, profii wrote:I would enjoy a garmr lynch

But I dont think he is smart enough to do those wacky claims as scum
I don't understand this. Are you saying he is smart enough as town? The scum have an entire team to help work out fake claims. Do you not think any of them are smart enough?
Smart enough as town made me chuckle.

usually these comments mean (if scum hed have to be pretty smart)

(if town its just bad play)

no offence to garmr. profii said it not me.

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:28 am
by profii
I mean if you are town you can say what you mean and be like lol fake claim guys I'm so cRaZy

But as scum if you give a result that catches you out you're probably getting lynched and when you are on the minority team if you die the stakes are higher - taking such a risk would be dumb imo

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:33 am
by Tchill13
In post 2859, profii wrote:I mean if you are town you can say what you mean and be like lol fake claim guys I'm so cRaZy
just got a mental image of some goth teen wearing the joker outfit and walking on grass beside a sign that says "do not walk on grass".

which is how i view all solo gambits here.

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:35 am
by Judge Joseph Dredd
@profii: I won't confirm nor deny; but -just out of curiosity- what role do you have down for me in your notes? :P

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:39 am
by profii
I choose not to speculate

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:39 am
by texcat
In post 2859, profii wrote:I mean if you are town you can say what you mean and be like lol fake claim guys I'm so cRaZy

But as scum if you give a result that catches you out you're probably getting lynched and when you are on the minority team if you die the stakes are higher - taking such a risk would be dumb imo

But what was the risk, really? Who was going to catch scum!Garmr out? The doc was the only one, and that would be assuming that the doc exists and did not actually protect Carca. And generally trading a scum for the doc is not that bad a trade. Scum!Garmr just got really unlucky when Carca claimed ascetic on D2. Most might have thought that she would have at least hinted at it, if not outright claimed on D1. Plus he's still relying on the fall back position of cRaZy town, and so getting caught out seems like it was no risk at all.

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:58 am
by profii
In post 2863, texcat wrote:
In post 2859, profii wrote:I mean if you are town you can say what you mean and be like lol fake claim guys I'm so cRaZy

But as scum if you give a result that catches you out you're probably getting lynched and when you are on the minority team if you die the stakes are higher - taking such a risk would be dumb imo

But what was the risk, really? Who was going to catch scum!Garmr out? The doc was the only one, and that would be assuming that the doc exists and did not actually protect Carca. And generally trading a scum for the doc is not that bad a trade. Scum!Garmr just got really unlucky when Carca claimed ascetic on D2. Most might have thought that she would have at least hinted at it, if not outright claimed on D1. Plus he's still relying on the fall back position of cRaZy town, and so getting caught out seems like it was no risk at all.
So garmr potentially lied about this supposed doc voyeur result

It seems unusual to me that no one has jumped on it and said "omg lynch all liars" which usually happens

I agree with you that sacrificing a scum for finding the doc is probably worthy for scum but we either have no doc or a smart doc who stayed quiet in this scenario

I suppose in this instance the claim is designed to appear like a mason saving move so it takes away the scrutiny but also potentially lure out a doc

So sure it can be scum but wed have to also believe that Garmr, who likes a fun claim managed to roll the scum goon or least useful scum PR which would be too coincidental for me to go with it - there is a higher probability that garmr could coach someone into this claim I think.

So I think it was genuine attempt to mason save that backfires a bit... the risk if you are scum is people are going to constantly throw shade at you the longer you live because you wont be considered trustworthy which will harm your long term plans I guess

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:19 am
by Titus
In post 2854, profii wrote:I would enjoy a garmr lynch

But I dont think he is smart enough to do those wacky claims as scum
Seems like you and I are in the same place, well unless scum!profli. Scum would have to endorse the gambit. I don't see that happening.

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:13 pm
by Carcalilly
In post 2856, AaronFrost wrote:I still think Garmr is town actually.

Bad play is bad play, but this feels like a bad townie play to me.
that sounds so garmr lmao

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:39 pm
by gobbledygook
VOTE: EeveeLution

If this is role madness, I think that makes it more likely Tchill is town.

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:43 pm
by Alonzo
In post 2861, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:@profii: I won't confirm nor deny; but -just out of curiosity- what role do you have down for me in your notes? :P
Poor man's Alonzo

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:45 pm
by gobbledygook
Profii isn’t scum

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:50 pm
by Alonzo
In post 2755, Cliff Booth wrote:
In post 2716, Alonzo wrote:@cliff

Riding solo or hydra? Sorry cba to go and look
5 heads on this hydra
In post 2759, Cliff Booth wrote:VOTE: Alonzo
In post 2763, Cliff Booth wrote:Alonzo has provided nothing after replacing a slot that provided nothing
In post 2765, Cliff Booth wrote:He's also talked about me in like 1/3 of his posts so far and I really don;t like that
In post 2767, Cliff Booth wrote:
In post 2121, Alonzo wrote:
In post 2120, profii wrote:There is a chance Rick Dalton is scum
I think the chances of Rick being scum increase if cliff tells me he is townreading Rick.

Do you townread Rick cliff?
I also still dont get this and he never elaborated on it. Also never did anything when I said rick was town
Because I want to sort you?

This lamesauce vote and reason is a long way from day one Rick Vs Elem.

I thought I recognised your style day one which is why I ask (seriously) about hydra status

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:54 pm
by Titus
In post 2867, gobbledygook wrote:VOTE: EeveeLution

If this is role madness, I think that makes it more likely Tchill is town.
Wait this isn't replaced?

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:44 pm
by EeveeLution Army
how does tchill town = me scum?

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:45 pm
by gobbledygook
Mutually exclusive thoughts in that post

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:35 pm
by Garmr
In post 2854, profii wrote:I would enjoy a garmr lynch

But I dont think he is smart enough to do those wacky claims as scum
Can you rephrase that to too cautious as scum.