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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:06 am
by Menalque
Describing*

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:06 am
by DrCirno
In post 2842, Menalque wrote:How do you expect to push people like this and not have them respond emotionally?
Except that that "emotion" of yours is NAI.
That makes people tired of reading this damn game and make people apathetic.

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:07 am
by RadiantCowbells
i don't think my strategies for killing my scumreads are different from other people's strategies for killing their scumreads outside of the fact that mine are more effective.

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:07 am
by DrCirno
Like people whine about RC ruining games all the time
But from what I've seen it has been always

1. RC pushes someone
2. People emotionally react
3. But that emotion is NAI
4. People get tired of that shit
5. People turn apathetic
6. People gives RC his way.
7. Blame RC for ruining games post-game.

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:08 am
by RadiantCowbells
and yeah, it's fundamentally nai to not want to be lynched because no alignment wants to be lynched hey look i'm buddy cop thingying

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:08 am
by DrCirno
So if you don't want RC to have his way all the time, don't act all emotional and shit.

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:08 am
by RadiantCowbells
or they ignore RC telling them that the fucking trust telling fuck is scum and townread the trust telling fuck anyway

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:08 am
by Menalque
Yes, which is exactly the point. Either RC dominates the gamestate to the point where you give up and leave and he gets to strongarm people 1 by 1 into doing what he wants. Or you stay fighting, apathy increases and increases and eventually people just give up and vote, and there’s a good chance they go “huh, RC’s pretty good and idk who the scum is, let’s vote with him”

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:09 am
by RadiantCowbells
i'm not saying that you have to like playing with me i'm saying that i don't feel like i'm doing something wrong.

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:10 am
by Menalque
In post 2852, RadiantCowbells wrote:i don't think my strategies for killing my scumreads are different from other people's strategies for killing their scumreads outside of the fact that mine are more effective.
You post more in thread and are more effective at coercing people

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:10 am
by DrCirno
In post 2857, Menalque wrote:Yes, which is exactly the point. Either RC dominates the gamestate to the point where you give up and leave and he gets to strongarm people 1 by 1 into doing what he wants. Or you stay fighting, apathy increases and increases and eventually people just give up and vote, and there’s a good chance they go “huh, RC’s pretty good and idk who the scum is, let’s vote with him”
"emotional" is a keyword.
Seriously, nobody ever wants to consider 1v1 mixed with emotion seriously.

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:10 am
by DrCirno
Now I wish I was really scum with RC this game because that means we're good-cop-bad-copping poor Menalque lol

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:11 am
by RadiantCowbells
like i totally see why you would not be having the greatest experience here but like i'm not doing something wrong. i understand that it feels helpless and what not.
You post more in thread and are more effective at coercing people
well yeah. but that's not like a different thing it's just being more effective on the axis of quantity and idk what axis you'd call the other thing
like i consider myself the logical limit of how effective pushing can be when i'm properly motivated to sit in a thread and beat someone up

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:11 am
by Menalque
In post 2858, RadiantCowbells wrote:i'm not saying that you have to like playing with me i'm saying that i don't feel like i'm doing something wrong.
I wouldn’t mind playing with you if you weren’t scum pushing my mislynch

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:12 am
by RadiantCowbells
bro drcirno you are making literally the worst choices of posts to not give menalque ammunition to call us svs

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:12 am
by Menalque
In post 2861, DrCirno wrote:Now I wish I was really scum with RC this game because that means we're good-cop-bad-copping poor Menalque lol
Could you openwolf a little more for the audience please ty

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:13 am
by DrCirno
What is openwolfing
I'm the best
deepwolf
, even more than the man Dannflor.

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:13 am
by Menalque
I think it is very hard for the average person not to respond to being hard pushed as a mislynch by scum regardless of intentions to not respond emotionally

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:14 am
by Menalque
Bringing up Ali v Pine is a bit uncalled for tbh but if you wanna go there cool

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:15 am
by DrCirno
I mean he's shittalking baton pass a lot too and I was in that game.

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:15 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 2867, Menalque wrote:I think it is very hard for the average person not to respond to being hard pushed as a mislynch by scum regardless of intentions to not respond emotionally
In post 2868, Menalque wrote:Bringing up Ali v Pine is a bit uncalled for tbh but if you wanna go there cool
first off: i'm town, there's rly no need to use this discussion to try to towntell (you can just use neutral phrasing) and i think generally reactions to pressure are pretty NAI, at least from me. second off lol at you guys lynching LLD d1 then flailing the rest of the game

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:15 am
by RadiantCowbells
[quote="In post 2869, DrCirno"][/quote]

you were the one person who wasn't gting

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:16 am
by RadiantCowbells
except when u selfhammered

i planned to post in twilight holy shit we should have lynched gdgw omg

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:16 am
by RadiantCowbells
i was also hoping to fool you that we were scum by quickhammering after you voted

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:18 am
by Menalque
I mean regardless of alignment I think bringing up Ali v Pine is a shitty thing to do