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In post 2848, Zantetsu wrote:

In post 2844, Alchemist21 wrote:

In post 2837, Zantetsu wrote:

In post 2835, Alchemist21 wrote:Ok yeah Norwe voted Saudade for a bit before voting me. So Norwe is Town unless the team is exactly Fire, Popo, and Norwe.

I don't get it. Can you walk me through that? Sorry to be so dense.

NorwegianboyEE treated all of Profi, Saudade, and myself in the same way. Before that they were on Profii and asking others to lynch Profii as well iirc, and I don’t think Saudade and I get the same treatment from Norwe if Norwe is scum with Saudade. We both got voted because Norwe didn’t like our responseS to the callout.

I'm going to have to chew on this for a while. I tend to think that scum is super sophisticated and will treat scum and town equally but maybe sometimes they don't.

One scumtell I known of is when scum give short paragraphs scumreading 3 different slots and voting one of the Townies. It’s a soft distancing tactic but Norwe was taking harder stances on all of us.

In post 2846, Zantetsu wrote:

In post 2843, Quick wrote: When I am right post game, then you can care what I say, how about that?

I will care then even less.

No, you WILL care post game. *magic finger slide*

In post 2849, Alchemist21 wrote:

In post 2845, Zantetsu wrote:

In post 2840, Alchemist21 wrote:

In post 2833, Zantetsu wrote:

In post 2829, Alchemist21 wrote:With all the claims now out, scum rb’s only real utility is shutting down any gambit attempts from a JK or if they really want Churros dead before us

The only power town has left is in you and me. You have I both have the potential to disrupt a NK and also to get a soft guilty by jailkeeping the scum committing an NK. When the number of scum goes down, our power becomes ever greater. Your role is slighly more powerful than mine in that the targets you can choose to disrupt scum with his higher - you can target town or scum to disrupt scum, I can only target scum.

Do you agree?

That’s true. I keep thinking you’re also Jailkeeper and seeing our utility as almost strictly keeping the Mason alive longer. And because of the Odd/Even Night stuff I was expecting the kill order to be me, you, Churros.

That's why if scum have a roleblocker then if we lynch that slot we are golden. They have to target whichever of us is coming up with our power next night and they might miss because the one of us currently using our power could disrupt it. Especially for a night like tonight. If they have no rb because they never had one (townsided design) or we lynch it, then tonight you could protect me and they couldn't NK and tomorrow I could protect you so they couldn't NK you. And them knowing that means they might just target someone else, and us knowing that means we could also target someone else to disrupt that kill. It becomes WIFOM hell for them with the chance that we disrupt.

You’re probably right. Why are you considering a world in which scum never had a roleblocker? Isn’t it confirmed they do at this point?

P-edit: Ok then.

churros could be lying about being voyeur, just like lying about fruit vendor. zan wasn't explicitly told he was blocked by the mod AFAIK.

I said that wrong so many ways but my brain is fried. Anyway I think you see my point.

pedit: Well said Alchemist, I have heard that 'rule of three' before too. And I have used it as scum, there seems to be a natural temptation to provide three alternatives and to put 1 scum and 2 town in. Not every time of course but there is a trend.

In post 2852, popopopopopopo wrote: churros could be lying about being voyeur, just like lying about fruit vendor. zan wasn't explicitly told he was blocked by the mod AFAIK.

If churros is lying about being voyeur I don't want to know until he wants to tell me, and all other town players should feel the same.

I was not told I was blocked, roleblockers aren't told shit, but Churros wasn't told he got No Result (right Churros?) therefore he wasn't blocked, therefore my blocking action did nothing, therefore I was interfered with, most natural conclusion is, I was blocked. No one else claimed to have such a power, except FB who has already recanted, therefore scum have that power, alternately some town player is lying, but I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT given that the way claims happened we kind of naturally discovered the game theme which is split roles for town.

I guess there is some alternate universe where FB and Saudade have their own split roles and are lying to protect them but HOLY MOTHERF***ING TOWNSIDED SETUP if that were true. I can't even conceptualize what scum could have to counteract that.

In post 2851, Quick wrote:

In post 2846, Zantetsu wrote:

In post 2843, Quick wrote: When I am right post game, then you can care what I say, how about that?

I will care then even less.

No, you WILL care post game. *magic finger slide*

Prepare to be disappointed.

In post 2855, Zantetsu wrote:

In post 2851, Quick wrote:

In post 2846, Zantetsu wrote:

In post 2843, Quick wrote: When I am right post game, then you can care what I say, how about that?

I will care then even less.

No, you WILL care post game. *magic finger slide*

Prepare to be disappointed.

Never die.

In post 2854, Zantetsu wrote:I guess there is some alternate universe where FB and Saudade have their own split roles and are lying to protect them but HOLY MOTHERF***ING TOWNSIDED SETUP if that were true. I can't even conceptualize what scum could have to counteract that.

You know I don't know why I said FB and Saudade. I guess I must be town reading them and that came out subconsciously. Weird.

In post 1516, Luna Fox wrote:

In post 1512, Alchemist21 wrote:

In post 1507, Churros wrote:Fire...he had a non-zero chance of being town PR if he's ever town...

but ok I guess

What Town PR sees they’re at L-1 and goes “ok I guess I’m getting lynched bye guys.”

A "town" voyeur

I'm actually surprised how everyone in that game forgot how i acted before the claim.

In post 1522, Churros wrote:nah I'm town voyeur fire.

best PR ever.

luna brought up voyeur first in thread, then churros claimed it a few posts after. (unless im missing something)

In post 2857, Zantetsu wrote:

In post 2854, Zantetsu wrote:I guess there is some alternate universe where FB and Saudade have their own split roles and are lying to protect them but HOLY MOTHERF***ING TOWNSIDED SETUP if that were true. I can't even conceptualize what scum could have to counteract that.

You know I don't know why I said FB and Saudade. I guess I must be town reading them and that came out subconsciously. Weird.

Alchs content is good but his claim came out of no where and I kind of don't like it at all, which actually makes Fire look a lot better IMO.

i understand your logic zan, and i guess it doesnt really matter as churros is conf town. but i dont really believe the voyeur claim, ergo i dont think scum necessarily has a roleblocker. they could.

hope that clears that up.

In post 2858, popopopopopopo wrote:

In post 1516, Luna Fox wrote:

In post 1512, Alchemist21 wrote:

In post 1507, Churros wrote:Fire...he had a non-zero chance of being town PR if he's ever town...

but ok I guess

What Town PR sees they’re at L-1 and goes “ok I guess I’m getting lynched bye guys.”

A "town" voyeur

I'm actually surprised how everyone in that game forgot how i acted before the claim.

In post 1522, Churros wrote:nah I'm town voyeur fire.

best PR ever.

luna brought up voyeur first in thread, then churros claimed it a few posts after. (unless im missing something)

Yeah good job, you found another place where Churros crumbed his role before his claim.

Or maybe Luna's post just gave him an opportunity to crumb a role he does not have??!? Who knows.

Anyway he is mason so whatever he does with the remainder of his claim is his business.

In post 2862, Zantetsu wrote:Anyway he is mason so whatever he does with the remainder of his claim is his business.

i agree, but thats why im not sure there is scum roleblocker. is all im saying.

think about firebringer claiming the roleblock from the perspective of a vt for the purpose of drawing a nightkill, he states this as the reason for his fake claim here

In post 2179, Firebringer wrote:why would i bait for a nk if i am anything except VT? unless its something almost as useless as VT i guesss.

the following thigns could happen

scum did the roleblock, they know his claim is fake, no nk bait, scum possibly counterclaims, firebringer gets lynched and flips VT

town did the roleblock, and he gets counterclaimed and outs a PR

town did the roleblock, doesnt counterclaim for some reason? he pulls a night kill. the chance of town not cc'ing him is pretty low. I'd cc if i was a pr and someone claimed my action in thread.

i dont see a how vanilla town firebringer fake claims that block, especially if its to bait a nk, which ive shown

*which ive shown he stated was his reason in post 2179

is how that should end

In post 2864, popopopopopopo wrote:which ive shown

Is that in your big post? Because I am pretty sure FB can just do that as Town as well.

In post 2866, Quick wrote:

In post 2864, popopopopopopo wrote:which ive shown

Is that in your big post? Because I am pretty sure FB can just do that as Town as well.

what? reread my last 2 posts

In post 2867, popopopopopopo wrote:

In post 2866, Quick wrote:

In post 2864, popopopopopopo wrote:which ive shown

Is that in your big post? Because I am pretty sure FB can just do that as Town as well.

what? reread my last 2 posts

I am pretty sure FB can just do that as Town as well.

And FB actually tried to work with me for a bit and that's pretty Pro-Town.

popo........ are you just efforting as Scum here?

In post 2819, Quick wrote:

In post 2818, Alchemist21 wrote:

In post 2814, popopopopopopo wrote:i remember from when i played mafia long ago there was a concept called "lynch all liars" looks like that has gone completely out the window in the years since i seriously played. its a shame. leads to absolute shit shows like this game if not enforced.

Nobody gets policy lynched for anything anymore outside unless there’s a damning claim against them.

Let's PL Saudade.

ok that's it boy as soon as you hit the next L-1 I'm hammering you.
Your chance to save yourself is to vote Firebringer with me

I swear to god you're so fucking annoying

Anyhows good morning fuckers

Stay positive friends

I don't even want to listen to anyone else anymore I want my lynch to go through
SHEEP ME