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Post Post #2850 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:37 am

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In post 2849, Blitzo wrote:
In post 2847, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 2845, Blitzo wrote:
In post 2833, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 2824, DrippingGoofball wrote:Titus giving off more townvibes today than yesterday (0 town vibes).
qft
Okay, and?
I need more than this.
...what? from me?

What are you upto exactly? :shifty:
No, from BM.
I also don't understand why you are confused about my question? His read is completely unexplained.
Does it not bother you in the slightest that you were nearly limmed in yet everyone has backed off of you for next to no reason?
They haven't backed off for no reason. I have info and I am using it to nail scum to the wall.

I expect you to engage with my content, particularly my read wall.
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Post Post #2851 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:38 am

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I got confused and mixed up Titus and BM.
BM you need an avi.
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Post Post #2852 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:42 am

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Titus I just checked your ISO and didn't see a read wall. Point it out to me if I missed it because all I saw were some hot takes of unexplained reads.
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Post Post #2853 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:46 am

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In post 2852, Blitzo wrote:Titus I just checked your ISO and didn't see a read wall. Point it out to me if I missed it because all I saw were some hot takes of unexplained reads.
That's what I was referring to. Anywhere you agree, disagree, are confused
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Post Post #2854 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:49 am

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In post 2853, Titus wrote:
In post 2852, Blitzo wrote:Titus I just checked your ISO and didn't see a read wall. Point it out to me if I missed it because all I saw were some hot takes of unexplained reads.
That's what I was referring to. Anywhere you agree, disagree, are confused
Then go with "all of them" because just dropping random names and alignments means nothing to me unless it's backed by something.
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Post Post #2855 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:50 am

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I mean I need reasons for things.
Like...I can't do anything with random names and alignments. I need more.
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Post Post #2856 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:54 am

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Of course you can do something. You can highlight which reads stand out and ask why I feel that way.
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Post Post #2857 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:11 am

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In post 2829, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 2824, DrippingGoofball wrote:Titus giving off more townvibes today than yesterday (0 town vibes).
agreed
In post 2838, TheGoldenParadox wrote:vote scumaestro
In post 2842, TheGoldenParadox wrote:because replacement
more scumposting from TGP :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
In post 2832, Blitzo wrote:Ali replacing out is super disjointed from her d1/night play. I know she was lost but that seems off still considering she was still putting a sizable amount of effort into the game and the whole thing just feels super weird. Maestro hasn't really inspired any confidence either thus far. :neutral:

Can someone explain the townvibes on Titus? I feel like she's had a few token reads and everyone has backed off of her which feels all sorts of nasty.
Plus there's the fact that she wound up being the EoD lim and that completely fell apart without any kind of pushback?

I also don't like reck's post restriction, but I don't think that's enough to warrant a scumread on its own.

There's more stuff I wanted to catch up on but I'm definitely sick so I'm gonna be a bit slower and have less energy than usual. I'll try to keep up to the best of my abilities and should be in thread tomorrow because I definitely think I need to engage some people before voting.
lol where was this spacing d1?
also wtf is that SRing Reck for his PR?
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Post Post #2858 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:15 am

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i think i can :EFFORT: a readslist alongside a vote

this'll suck because i cant do nice colors D:<

Town

Gamma
: They were the first to vibe with me in our
Admin PT
and followed through with my townbloc exercise without contention or condition. Their whiteknight on me feels organic because their aggression in this game has doubled since D1 and with good reason he outlined a townread on
Akarin
in the PT and she flipped so. It's also because he pushed for a
Titus
lim for multiple reasons, a lim didn't happen, and now he's acquired scrutiny for wanting to force a lim on a, at-the-time, widely scumread slot
(Titus)
. No. I'm not limming this slot, and I dislike every push on
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right now.

Cakez
: I'm rapidly warming up to
Cakez
. I take heed to
Gamma's
hesitation with this slot and I don't recall many points where I agree with this slot. I will say, their trajectory is very towny, in respect to me and
Akarin
post-flip. I feel like they've actually taken my pokes on their posts with sincerity. They took
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counterpoints in good faith. They have a strong push to work with slots despite any disagreements or hangups they have with them. I trust
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POV here.

Blitzo
: I don't have a lot of well-worded explanations for this slot, because I agree when people like
BM
say that this slot pokes for information more than they give it out. However, trying to rationalize a scum-angle on this slot is weird as fuck. For the LATEST example, the push to keep
Titus
on trial in is an argument that I think would miss scum whether
Titus
was town or a buddy because this is AFTER the thread doubting this consensus.
Blitzo
was the most silent in the
Admin PT
but they hung out with
Alisae/Gamma/Me
because they found our cell to be one of the towniest.

Maestro
: Almost entirely fluffy since their entrance, which I can't tell if that's AI of this player. I've already stated my points in D1 that I townread
Alisae
pretty strongly and I still doubt that
Alisae
is scum especially post-
Akarin
flip and NAI replacement that made sense for
Alisae's
constant disengagement in the game.

Murder
: Eveyrbody is giving me a hard time with
Murder
, it feels. It gives me flashbacks to
Merchant's Daughter
over 1 year ago where
Krazy
was hard scumread by all the slots I townread, but I townread
Krazy
and ALL OF TOWN doubtcasted my read there, and we lost in elo because I was right about
Krazy
all along. https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=78670

No, I don't understand why people think
Murder
is scum. If anyone does, I want them to talk to me like I'm a 5 year old and explain it.

I townread
Murder
because he went from sus'ing my lukewarm POV on his slot to taking that as an opportunity to work with me when most of the plist wanted him eliminated. He was transparent about the fact that he couldn't give a confident solve D1. I believe him because his actions reflect someone trying to solve the game whether it is to townside with a player or give full context and ideas to their thoughts on mechanic in regards to gamestate. He even asserted his own ideas above my own when he felt it necessary. I feel like
Murder
-scum would've changed tune the second
Akarin
jumped onto him and I don't think he's actively tried to absolve or downplay the suspicion on him.

His disposition towards me reminds me of how he handled
Infinity
in
Student Council
. Slight paranoia, very, very strongly wanting to work with a slot despite this. I think this is
Murder's
method to gamesolving that I personally vibe with. https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=84987

Unless I'm literally loony-toons level stupid this game and
Murder
-scum is tailing a strong, red-herring associative to my neck (which I don't think is true because he's not a braindead sheep), I'm still feeling good about
Murder
being town. If any of you think I'm misled, I damn-well expect something RESEMBLING of a good retort because I've not seen one.


Reck
: I don't think
Reck
is malicious. Yes, the vote on
Gamma
is lackluster but I can't hold it against
Reck
to do little to gamesolve D2 because of his restriction. Still, I can't tie a specific agenda to him and out of the nay-sayers to players working to accomplish some form of mech
Pooky/Alisae/Akarin
, they were one of the less hard-lined players because they saw the value of grouping. They also don't have any reads where I just outright dislike or think is never impossible. If I were asked to give a specific post or stance where I strongly believed came from town in this slot, I'd draw a blank, tbh. But this does not
~feel~
like scum. Shitty reasoning, I know, but I'm content with that provided our stage in this game.

OWER
: My ISO, I felt was very thorough on
OWER
and my townread feels well reasoned. If scum, I don't think it's with any of
{BM/Alisae slot/Pooky}
outright unless he's EXTREMELY effective with theatre and they've spent D1 pocketing me. I will say, I do agree with
Alisae's
issue with
OWER
mentioned in the
Admin PT
and it boiled down to two overarching points:
1) Alisae
felt
OWER's
take on them was garbage because
Alisae
, in their mind, was not trying to control the game.
2) OWER
is more active and aggressive this game than when he was mislimmed as town in D1,
Student Council
.

And I agree with these reasonings, and I'd like
OWER
to contest these when he can. I like
OWER's
content but I don't have a strong grasp on how best to read them because they seem to have a large tonal range than I believed. I like their assertions about the gamestate , their willingness to work with me , and the insistence of evaluating
Akarin's
flip as a form of NKA to catch scum. I just really want to see them post more content now.

Battle Mage
: This man gets my sympathies, I felt the volume that they 1v1'd MULTIPLE SLOTS D1 is something I see from town more often than scum. I made a lot of my points about them in my D1 ISO and other than
Akarin
townflip as a potential thing to look at for interactions, I don't see a reason to doubt my initial analysis. I'm solid on them as town.

My only vex with
BM
at the moment is that I feel that they're very cautious D2 and I don't have context on how he came to this behavior from when he was strong on that
Titus
lim EoD1.

I can see his change of heart happening being in a PT with
Titus
. But neither could've ended up in
Electrical
, since people going there had to relocate, from my understanding. Ultimately, I like that
BM/Titus
seem to be working in good faith but I'm iffy because
BM
is still putting her at arm's length BUT is going with her solve at the same time.

Titus
: She never really responded to my points on her near EoD1 but it's not that I opened D2 demanding that of her. I think she's a bit easier to read as her thoughts aren't hyperfocused on
BM
now, I don't know what has led her to change on
BM
.

I don't really want to pry either. implies she knows something nobody else does and she's playing it smartly to try and figure out the thread first. OK, that makes her prediction posts a lot more sound.
...shit...
After posts like , has given me several new potential interpretations to
Titus'
gameplay right now and I'm OK with her being in the townbin.

Overall, I'm a bit frustrated with
Titus
but I trust they're actually solving the game here. I'm frustrated because they think I forced my posting EoD1 as scum and I want them to work with me if they think I'm misled on
Murder
.

TL;DR The above rounds out my townreads.

Pooky/Haschel are in the Sorting pile.

{Flea, DGB, TGP, Bell} are where I am at. But this isn't a team-solve.

I'm also not quite satisfied with Flea/DGB remaining this low, so I'm really just looking at: {Bell/TGP}
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Post Post #2859 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:25 am

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Yeah, my readslist could've been more fully realized AND conformed less to the thread's progression

But I've wanted better plist cohesion D1 and to just say "fuck off" to that with a counterwagon to solve my lower placing slots, I'm OK with VOTE: Bell

Bell
, you gave almost no concrete read in the game, and it was only on a portion of the plist.

How about we change direction, since your wagon has gotten a lot of traction, what votes on it come from scum, and which come from town? Try to have a definitive take.

TGP
, I'm not a fan of your posts as a whole at the moment.
1)
What happened to the
Blitzo
-scum analysis?
2)
I feel like you deflected my wagon on you EoD1 as you pushed for that
Hachel
lim, is this accurate? Also, why not
Haschel
now?
3)
Is it fair to say that your
Maestro
scumread and vote is a bit... lacking? Are you talking about the replacement being bad on principle or
Maestro's
posts?
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Post Post #2860 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:25 am

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Yeah, my readslist could've been more fully realized AND conformed less to the thread's progression

But I've wanted better plist cohesion D1 and to just say "fuck off" to that with a counterwagon to solve my lower placing slots, I'm OK with VOTE: Bell

Bell
, you gave almost no concrete read in the game, and it was only on a portion of the plist.

How about we change direction, since your wagon has gotten a lot of traction, what votes on it come from scum, and which come from town? Try to have a definitive take.

TGP
, I'm not a fan of your posts as a whole at the moment.
1)
What happened to the
Blitzo
-scum analysis?
2)
I feel like you deflected my wagon on you EoD1 as you pushed for that
Hachel
lim, is this accurate? Also, why not
Haschel
now?
3)
Is it fair to say that your
Maestro
scumread and vote is a bit... lacking? Are you talking about the replacement being bad on principle or
Maestro's
posts?
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Post Post #2861 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:25 am

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omg fuck this double post thing
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Post Post #2862 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:25 am

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In post 2861, Taly wrote:omg fuck this double post thing
NO OH MY GOD
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Post Post #2863 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:28 am

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my level of tilt in this game has just tripled
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Post Post #2864 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:39 am

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YOU ARE GREAT TALY I AM TIRED BUT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO READING ALL THIS
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Post Post #2865 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:18 am

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In post 2816, Maestro wrote:oh shit where?
Reck say a prayer

(That was just a hard rhyme
I don't know if it's Reck's time)

Also, where's the slip?
I haven't heard a pip
I can only say things in a certain way right now
If you ignore it just because it's rhyming... fuck me, wow
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Post Post #2866 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:18 am

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To call my posts "just fluff" obnoxiously
Forgets that no one fkin' answered me!
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Post Post #2867 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:21 am

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ok i rescind my thoughts on
maestro
being fluff and 5x more sympathetic to
alisae's
rep out

carry on

also idk what
gamma
meant about that
reck
scumslip nor care atm tbh.

is there a way you can give reads while rhyming,
maestro
? i could help you rhyme if you need it haha
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Post Post #2868 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:21 am

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In post 2642, Maestro wrote:Can somebody please explain to me
The "Dead Titus" quoted conditional thingy?
Let's go down mem'ry lane then, looky here!
Another place where I'm soundly ignored -
oh dear


If me sticking to rhyming counts as fluff
Then fluff your fluff you fluffing motherpuff
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Post Post #2869 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:24 am

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ok im in love with
maestro
now

i have no clue what
"Dead
Titus
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means and i probably skimmed over it if there were a specific quote
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Post Post #2870 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:25 am

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Taly I'm definitely down to merc Bell and TGP but your scumpile looks light to me :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Post Post #2871 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:26 am

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Replacing into a PR fest is not my ideal day
I'm still just forming thoughts on who I think should stay

If you really wanted to ask me for my say
On more specific folks you'd like for me to sway

That'd probably be much easier than just now going "Hey!
Maestro have you got some reads or don't you want to play?"
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Post Post #2872 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:29 am

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In post 2869, Taly wrote:
ok im in love with
maestro
now

i have no clue what
"Dead
Titus
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means and i probably skimmed over it if there were a specific quote

Come alive!
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Post Post #2873 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:34 am

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In post 2870, SirCakez wrote:Taly I'm definitely down to merc Bell and TGP but your scumpile looks light to me :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
:good: :good: :good: :good: :good: its kind of intentional, i dont think trying to outline a massive team solve is the best starting approach to this day

i have conflicting arguments on people's alignment both in my townreads, sorting pile, and scumreads.

so im really just voicing what i feel confident in, whether it's logic or gut-based.

also because i was too tired to finish the readslist haha ;p...
In post 2871, Maestro wrote:Replacing into a PR fest is not my ideal day
I'm still just forming thoughts on who I think should stay

If you really wanted to ask me for my say
On more specific folks you'd like for me to sway

That'd probably be much easier than just now going "Hey!
Maestro have you got some reads or don't you want to play?"
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But I implore you for such a deed
Look at
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Is thinking his soul be pure, the key?

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Maestro wrote:
In post 2869, Taly wrote:
ok im in love with
maestro
now

i have no clue what
"Dead
Titus
"
means and i probably skimmed over it if there were a specific quote

Come alive!
i honestly have no clue what
akarin
meant about sabotaging or if/how sabotaging is possible, but the
"Dead Titus"
part referred to the fact that
Titus
was on the brink to being limmed and may not be able to do anything with her plan.
"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage
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Post Post #2874 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:45 am

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In post 2838, TheGoldenParadox wrote:vote scumaestro
Ok Barbie
Let's go party

:roll:

I'll look at Murdercat's ISO of Taly ere too long
Does TGP have any actual reasoning? (nope, just wrong)

Blitzo, why did you not have a read on Alisae, prior to the getgo?
You seem to waffle harder than a toasted golden Eggo
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