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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:15 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 2843, Aristeia wrote:The only people who are that confident at Elo about someone's towniness like that are scum - for they know who the town are and they know who they are pocketing.
Aha, but see.
My supposed confidence stems from the fact that i voted RCE. And i know i am town, yet there are 3 scum in this game.
So why no quickhammer from mafia? Are they not doing it? Did they simply not have everyone online at the same time? Did they decide to troll and just do nothing?
No. It’s obvious that irregardless of my allignment i DO have confidence to believe my read on RCE is correct here. So the claim that only scum is confident is wrong.
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:16 pm
by Aristeia
In post 2850, NorwegianboyEE wrote: In post 2843, Aristeia wrote:The only people who are that confident at Elo about someone's towniness like that are scum - for they know who the town are and they know who they are pocketing.
Aha, but see.
My supposed confidence stems from the fact that i voted RCE. And i know i am town, yet there are 3 scum in this game.
So why no quickhammer from mafia? Are they not doing it? Did they simply not have everyone online at the same time? Did they decide to troll and just do nothing?
No. It’s obvious that irregardless of my allignment i DO have confidence to believe my read on RCE is correct here. So the claim that only scum is confident is wrong.
You expressed extreme confidence before you voted for RCE
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:16 pm
by Aristeia
You're getting your timeline mixed up because it's all lies
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:16 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Hm, i thought i quoted something else.
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:17 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Sorry, it’s hard when i don’t have an scum PT to take notes like you do.
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:17 pm
by Aristeia
In post 2849, Aristeia wrote: In post 2847, NorwegianboyEE wrote: In post 2843, Aristeia wrote:You express extreme confidence in Mastina's "Towni-ness" despite multiple mis-elim pushes from her slot.
You still pushing this line? Mastina is undoubtedly town because all my experience with their slot and 100% correct read rate in past games tell me so.
You've seen Mastina!town push multiple mis-elims in the past? One after another?
are you going to answer this?
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:17 pm
by Aristeia
I've never taken notes on a game in my life
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:18 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 2855, Aristeia wrote: In post 2849, Aristeia wrote: In post 2847, NorwegianboyEE wrote: In post 2843, Aristeia wrote:You express extreme confidence in Mastina's "Towni-ness" despite multiple mis-elim pushes from her slot.
You still pushing this line? Mastina is undoubtedly town because all my experience with their slot and 100% correct read rate in past games tell me so.
You've seen Mastina!town push multiple mis-elims in the past? One after another?
are you going to answer this?
I have seen Mastina be criminally wrong multiple times.
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:18 pm
by Aristeia
Also you don't really need notes to keep your timeline correct because it's usually just what you think.
When your reasoning is fake, that's when you can get the timing mixed up.
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:19 pm
by Aristeia
Did you try to stop her then?
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:19 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
That’s not me being scum. That’s just me being me.
If anything i am less likely to mess that up as scum. Because as town i just post without a care in the world. But as scum i want to be careful.
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:20 pm
by Aristeia
if town!you knows that town!mastina can be criminally wrong on multiple reads, why would you not stop her from killing townie after townie?
it feels like it was scum!you's plan all along to let Mastina kill everyone, because after all as long as you pocket her you are never really at risk.
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:20 pm
by Aristeia
In post 2860, NorwegianboyEE wrote:That’s not me being scum. That’s just me being me.
If anything i am less likely to mess that up as scum. Because as town i just post without a care in the world. But as scum i want to be careful.
are you really going to claim scum!you doesn't mess up because I can pull meta too
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:20 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
No. I let her push her solve because i thought it was correct and i trusted their allignment.
In the previous MBOS she killed town!FL but i fully supported the push because i trusted them and FL seemed like an good elimination.
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:22 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 2861, Aristeia wrote:if town!you knows that town!mastina can be criminally wrong on multiple reads, why would you not stop her from killing townie after townie?
This is an stupid question. I trusted Mastina and thought they might be correct.
Obviously i didn’t know for 100% sure they were pushing an townie everytime.
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:23 pm
by Aristeia
In post 2863, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
No. I let her push her solve because i thought it was correct and i trusted their allignment.
In the previous MBOS she killed town!FL but i fully supported the push because i trusted them and FL seemed like an good elimination.
So you have meta that town!mastina can be criminally wrong and instead of diverting her off and re-assessing you rode her to kill townie after townie and now you're at Elo with 0 flipped scum.
That's not a town Mindset.
That's a scum norwee taking advantage of Mastina.
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:23 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
You’re also not acknowledging that Mastina townreads me with 95% certainty here.
Are you not going to respect the fact that you claim to believe they are town, yet is misreading me so badly?
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:24 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In an previous game just weeks ago where i was scum Mastina literally HARD pushed me as mafia from their very first post in the game and said i was fcking obvious scum.
So now i just pocketed them easily all game?
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:25 pm
by Aristeia
In post 2864, NorwegianboyEE wrote:This is an stupid question. I trusted Mastina and thought they might be correct.
Obviously i didn’t know for 100% sure they were pushing an townie everytime.
you just admitted you've seen her be criminally wrong.
it makes 0 sense to sheep someone who you know can be criminally wrong
if you are town
it makes a lot of sense to sheep her if you're scum and you want her to flip all the townies for you, you don't even have to do any work!
just at the end when she's depressed because she's got 0 scum flips, you show up
confidently declare to everyone she MUST BE TOWN
and then start shit pushing the weakest link left - since you only need Mastina to vote with you and the game is over and you win.
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:25 pm
by Aristeia
In post 2866, NorwegianboyEE wrote:You’re also not acknowledging that Mastina townreads me with 95% certainty here.
Are you not going to respect the fact that you claim to believe they are town, yet is misreading me so badly?
You yourself said Mastina!town is criminally wrong often
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:25 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 2869, Aristeia wrote: In post 2866, NorwegianboyEE wrote:You’re also not acknowledging that Mastina townreads me with 95% certainty here.
Are you not going to respect the fact that you claim to believe they are town, yet is misreading me so badly?
You yourself said Mastina!town is criminally wrong often
AHAHA
WEAK!
WEAK REPLY!
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:26 pm
by Aristeia
in fact her highest confidence townread is
usually scum
why do you think LLD flips her readslist upside down every time she decides Mastina is town?
that's the town mindset.
You basically just used Mastina to kill everyone in this town while shitpushing with your drivel
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:27 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 2871, Aristeia wrote:why do you think LLD flips her readslist upside down every time she decides Mastina is town?
Ah yes, but the LLD tell isn’t: "her highest townread in ElO is scum."
It’s: "her highest townread in the first reads list in the game is scum"
Who was that?
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:28 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 320, mastina wrote:Green Cap Boys
The Emperor
ta vera
NorwegianboyEE
{The Limit Does Not Exist, Dwlee99, Titus}
cass.bruant
Fairy Circle (hydra of Momrangal and Flea the Magician)
Bingle
Rough readslist. I realize it's not great but is all I've got.
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:29 pm
by Aristeia
In post 2872, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Ah yes, but the LLD tell isn’t: "her highest townread in ElO is scum."
It’s: "her highest townread in the first reads list in the game is scum"
Who was that?
LLD's mindset is the
town mindset
when she identifies Mastina town, she always flips the readslist and kills from the other direction.
She
NEVER
kills the bottom of the readslist because those are usually all town.
This is
known Mastina Meta
So how exactly does Mr. Mastina Meta Expert Norwee decide it's a good idea to kill the bottom of her readslist?
You even admitted yourself you knew she was frequently criminally wrong.