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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:40 pm
by Ircher
In post 2847, Bell wrote:*raises finger to point out that omgus is commonly town*
Does it indicate a greater than rand chance of being town? I don't think so, but you are welcome to cite the relevant statistical literature and prove me wrong.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:41 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 2846, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:If you call that pushing, Dunn, I'm a playground bully who has shoved every slot in the game. You barely gave them a mean glare.

No good. Try again.
I've gone into detail on all of them, pointing to their own posts. I'm not concerned about bears anymore with the mush thing

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:42 pm
by Bell
*blink* I’m not following your point since it’s different from the point you made about me being obvscum.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:43 pm
by Bell
In post 2850, Ircher wrote:
In post 2847, Bell wrote:*raises finger to point out that omgus is commonly town*
Does it indicate a greater than rand chance of being town? I don't think so, but you are welcome to cite the relevant statistical literature and prove me wrong.
No. I don’t mean to say that town are more or less likely to omgus, just that it’s close to NAI unless you get into specifics, but even then it gets hazy pretty quick when it’s all based on supposition.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:45 pm
by Ircher
Fair enough.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:45 pm
by Bell
What mush thing.
You mean the mold thing?

I still dunno what scum would ever shoot them, but eh. Guess we’ll find out. They have made me
Doubt my read on them a lot and I mean, they’re the walking dead so I don’t see much like motivation for them to post more but they’re here, posting more

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:46 pm
by MUSHSHAGANA
In post 2852, Bell wrote:*blink* I’m not following your point since it’s different from the point you made about me being obvscum.
Bell, think back to all the time we have spent in Death Curse and in D&D.

Thinking of all that? Good.

Name one time it struck you that I'm a particularly intelligent person. No, the eureka Death Curse midgame doesn't count, I was just wielding great power and sussing out one solitary manipulation tactic.

How long did it take you to think of that?

What if I told you it's all a fantasy and you're bullshitting yourself? That the cackling moron who throws an axe at a dragon is who I really am?

Honestly, I'm baffled no one realized it before now.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:48 pm
by Bell
You’re trying to sell me something.

But no, I think we’re all equally stupid within a modest range.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:49 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 2853, Bell wrote:
In post 2850, Ircher wrote:
In post 2847, Bell wrote:*raises finger to point out that omgus is commonly town*
Does it indicate a greater than rand chance of being town? I don't think so, but you are welcome to cite the relevant statistical literature and prove me wrong.
No. I don’t mean to say that town are more or less likely to omgus, just that it’s close to NAI unless you get into specifics, but even then it gets hazy pretty quick when it’s all based on supposition.
I wasn't saying that the omgus was scummy, I was saying that I wasn't on the defensive.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:51 pm
by MUSHSHAGANA
In post 2857, Bell wrote:You’re trying to sell me something.

But no, I think we’re all equally stupid within a modest range.
You have it all backwards.

I'm trying to sell everyone that I'm cool and insightful all the time. This is me just laying my cards on the table and watching your face.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:55 pm
by Bell
But I don’t have a face to watch.
I have nothing to react to. I just wanted you to talk because shrike requires me to tamp down on my emotions because feelings and judgment are sort of automatic and I have to undo that.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:57 pm
by Bell
You’ve not really been on the defensive and in general i Don’t think you go on the defensive Dunnstral.
My experience with you being pushed is largely “what have I done that’s scummy, there’s barely anything there!”
And watching people stutter because yes, but isn’t that an issue?
And no, it’s not really an issue but the defense itself doesn’t really help me read you. I’m not even sure what does help me read you since I think we’re (previous to perhaps this game) always ended up with you being town.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:00 pm
by Ircher
I think the biggest difference for scum!Dunn is he is more picky about things, but he's pretty nitpickey as both alignments. At least, that's my impression from my experience with him.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:01 pm
by MUSHSHAGANA
Bell. You're telling me these things as if they're supposed to make something click into place. Let me be abundantly clear: If you shake me, my head rattles. There is no realization coming.

I do not understand what you are telling me or why it matters. I'm hoping for that rare moment the light clicks on and I understand what all the stuff I've been stubbing my toes on was. I have no plan but to make you fail to comprehend my own incomprehension until such time as either I townread you or you decide there is actually nothing going on in this head of mine and you can barely convince me of the simplest things if you hold my hand and walk me through it.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:03 pm
by Bell
I think i just reflexively tell people they're wrong/scum when I'm not tbh.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:04 pm
by MUSHSHAGANA
Fascinating. Tell me more.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:09 pm
by Bell
I get triggered because I don’t like being miseliminated because of powerlessness and depression and all that good stuff.
Not that I don’t lean into it when I’m scum though I’ve tried to move away from it.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:14 pm
by Malakittens
In post 2831, Cephrir wrote:
In post 2824, Malakittens wrote:
In post 2815, Cephrir wrote:
In post 2801, Malakittens wrote:I am not scum reading you.

So get your flipping vote off me
?
because i really don't feel like engaging in a 1:1 with a person who I think is prob town, but I'm trying to stop her from trying to deathtunnel me before she dies
I would hope that her read on you is not entirely predicated on your read on her
Here's the problem I have with Adante. I have played with her in three games. Two completed games were she was scum in both & now she's here. I'm feeling her posting is very different from the two games where she was scum in. Due to that I'm gut townbinning her.

She got mad at me for my first post in D2. Where she said "Omg plot twist: we are all town". In which I replied, "wet dream". That's so far the stance she is taking initially to vote me, which when later called against it she reported it was a joke, but then I started to scum read her based off lack of content. Then she seemed to get annoyed with my comment of "I'm more obv town than you". Now from there she's scum reading me and trying to use my lack of content against me.

So far today I think I have been pretty decent in remaining active, voicing my concerns and being able to get a decent read on me.

It's just the basis of this scum read feels weird + her white knighting the shit out of ircher. I still gut think she's town, but I'm so done with her tunnel because she's wrong and I rather engage and sort it out now.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:14 pm
by MUSHSHAGANA
In post 2866, Bell wrote:I get triggered because I don’t like being miseliminated because of powerlessness and depression and all that good stuff.
Not that I don’t lean into it when I’m scum though I’ve tried to move away from it.
Nope. Not ringing any bells. Oh well. I'm letting Shrike take back over now that chocolate pudding and ginger ale has faded into heartburn and gassiness. (I have earned the right to indulge without regret for today.) Byebye.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:15 pm
by Malakittens
In post 2362, Malakittens wrote:
In post 2361, Andante wrote:I'm actually laughing though. 20 people. no one died. lol plot twist, we're all town!
Wet dream
In post 2363, Andante wrote:VOTE: Malakittens

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:19 pm
by MUSHSHAGANA
nah i got nothing either. i cant believe yall jus watched curse throw out all our combined rep n didnt say fuckin anything smfh cant have shit in this town

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:24 pm
by Cephrir
In post 2843, Bell wrote:
In post 2840, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:That's nice, Bell. You're as good as flipped red already from what I know of you, so I won't take this too personally.

I guess I'm throwing axes in Control as well as D&D.
I’m definitely not flipping red so either you don’t know much or you’re scum.
You're not someone I expect omgus from. What gives?

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:26 pm
by Cephrir
In post 2849, Bell wrote:
In post 2844, Ircher wrote:I've been telling y'all that MUSH is scum since like day 1 of day 1.
If you flip town, I’ll flip mush.
Why is everyone in this game playing 1D checkers.

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:26 pm
by Bell
I don’t really think that admitting to posturing is a big reveal.
Especially on mafiascum.net

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:28 pm
by Cephrir
In post 2856, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:
In post 2852, Bell wrote:*blink* I’m not following your point since it’s different from the point you made about me being obvscum.
Bell, think back to all the time we have spent in Death Curse and in D&D.

Thinking of all that? Good.

Name one time it struck you that I'm a particularly intelligent person. No, the eureka Death Curse midgame doesn't count, I was just wielding great power and sussing out one solitary manipulation tactic.

How long did it take you to think of that?

What if I told you it's all a fantasy and you're bullshitting yourself? That the cackling moron who throws an axe at a dragon is who I really am?

Honestly, I'm baffled no one realized it before now.
If this is how you really feel why are you so confident about your takes.