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thats, uh... what?

i'm tired

if you lim me today are you suggesting that fen/roden sheep me tomm or you think maybe I don't know what I am talking about?

In post 2851, bloodhail wrote:i'm tired

fair ig it just seemed weirdly threatening

In post 2852, Aristeia wrote:if you lim me today are you suggesting that fen/roden sheep me tomm or you think maybe I don't know what I am talking about?

yes if you're town i'm sheeping you

UNVOTE:

meh w/e

i was trying to strongarm the elim but did it in a half-assed way

its ok

i don't think i would be very happy with voting ari over roden without hearing more from roden

I mean Roden has self voted and fucked off from the thread

are you really scumreading that

no i was scumreading him for his earlier play

im not gonna townread him for looking like he's given up when he's most likely going to get eliminated at some point

actually his current actions probably have the best chance at getting him out of it bc people always want to try to find the sneaky clever scum when it gets to endgame

idk im not really sure if he's more likely to be scum at this point but even if he's not i want him to actually play

you know the goal of the town is to kill the last scum right?

it doesn't actually matter if everyone gets to sign the yearbook.

like if you think roden is scum

make the case for roden being scum

if you think i'm scum

make the case for me being scum.

you're just kind of twisting in the wind like you're not sure what's going on or where you need to go to survive another two days of this

do you think that me casing roden further would be useful? i can if you want me to. i don't really feel like there's any reason i should be convincing anyone of who is scum here or that you should expect me to?

i would prefer to be right today because if we're not right today then there's a decent chance that we lose. having roden playing i think would help us decide what is right today

if everyone else just wants to move on then ok i won't hold the game hostage, but i didn't really get any sort of feeling like std or roden were finished with the day (unless roden is just scum who wants out)

to be clear on the direction im looking at this from, im trying more to find town than i am to find scum. if i wanted to i could find reasons why any of you could be scum, but i don't think that would be helpful. right now i feel like there are things that you, roden, std, and bloodhail have all done that look to me like things that i wouldn't expect you to do as scum partners with datisi in the situations that you were in, and im trying to figure out which of those im wrong on.

std and bloodhail i feel more strongly that the downsides to the action they have taken outweighs the potential benefits that they could get.

bloodhail for example doesn't really get that much towncred for bussing bc everyone here knows that he is capable of it, so it doesn't really improve the position at all even heading into endgame. i thought his latest threat thing was sorta weird but whatever he just wants to end the day probably.

std im kinda trusting bloodhail that he's out of his scumrange. i mostly agree. i don't really think he needs to vote datisi when he does if he's scum, and i don't really see it as very likely that he would either.

these two i won't vote today and would be unlikely to vote for tomorrow.

with you, ive talked about most of the things that are holding me back. i still think the potential benefits to you sheeping skitter at the time that you did are not enough to offset the risks. it's possible im wrong on that assessment. there's other points but that's the most significant one for me.

with roden, the biggest reason is that he is unlikely to succeed in endgame by bussing datisi. in this case, however, i feel like the benefits do outweigh the risks. (as an aside, i also feel like his response to bloodhail's entrance was sketchy, saying that their reads aligned and voting datisi when previously the closest he had gotten to suspicion on datisi was saying that there was likely at least 1 scum in datisi/ari, and also previously saying he was likely to vote irrel). it's exactly how i would expect scum to behave if they decided datisi would have to die at some point. so the question to me mostly just becomes would they make that call? maybe he thought he could expand the poe enough to avoid elimination. maybe he thinks he can self-vote and AtE his way out of it. im not sure. i don't think it's the most likely thing in the world, but compared to the reasons that i have for why everyone else is unlikely to be paired with datisi, i feel my reasons here are weaker. i also don't think his behavior this day phase is any closer to how i would expect town to behave than how i would expect scum to behave.

that's a lot of words for "i am poe scumreading you but i can't vote you because i'm scared"

it's just a game fire

winning isn't that important

just do it

:<

i will vote if std says he's ready to move on

ok

In post 2859, Aristeia wrote:I mean Roden has self voted and fucked off from the thread

are you really scumreading that

In post 2860, fireisredsir wrote:no i was scumreading him for his earlier play

im not gonna townread him for looking like he's given up when he's most likely going to get eliminated at some point

actually his current actions probably have the best chance at getting him out of it bc people always want to try to find the sneaky clever scum when it gets to endgame

idk im not really sure if he's more likely to be scum at this point but even if he's not i want him to actually play

I didn't fuck off, I'm waiting on some kind of follow up from STD.

In post 2753, Save The Dragons wrote:I'm not going to just tunnel you roden for things mala did

I wanna talk about it

In post 2849, bloodhail wrote:VOTE: aristeia

don't have a ton more to say. i'm not thrilled by roden's last post but if you vote him out today and he's town i probably just just vote fire tomorrow

Why would you be in ELo tomorrow in that scenario instead of STD? Nobody suspects you or wants to vote you.

i guess my problem is mala did scummy things and she's not here to defend herself.

and the answers you gave are reachy. but that's probably what i should just expect from you if i'm remembering why i scumread you in control which makes it NAI.

i know it's hard but it would help if you were engaged this day phase.

like what do you think of bh's case on ari? what do you think of ari's consistent scumread of fire? what am i missing that should make it obvious you are town?

prob won't really need it at all but



will still pop in and will still be probably caught up honestly cause i doubt y'all are gonna suddenly start spam posting but i will be not around for larger chunks of time than usual

In post 2869, Roden wrote:I didn't fuck off, I'm waiting on some kind of follow up from STD.

I meant it in a funny way.

hope everyone has a great holiday weekend!

In post 2859, Aristeia wrote:I mean Roden has self voted and fucked off from the thread

are you really scumreading that

VOTE: aristeia