Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:01 pm
i always forget abt cape
I am thinking probably only 1 vanilla goon, but I am assuming that just given all the PR claimsIn post 2808, MathBlade wrote:Vanilla goons omg I can’t type
Okay Malcolm could be scum off this post . It just is really awkwardIn post 2633, MalcolmTucker wrote:Why is this true? You're active, sure, but it's not guaranteed town will follow your reads and it's not even guaranteed all town will trust you, as we're seeing with Titus. Scum could also be perfectly content leaving you alive if you're on the right track as well, or may simply have killed Frogster because they believed he had an important role and one of them had managed to identify it.In post 2622, MathBlade wrote:Ah okay derp.
Yeah NM is lock town. Forgot about that thanks.
Mainly I want to find the scum that kills Frogger over me.Because while I am alive scum are pretty much stuck doing what town decides.
I have to go now but yeah. That’s kinda where I am at.
That and I can’t figure out Titus.
This is a decent case with marci/pookyIn post 2581, MalcolmTucker wrote:In post 1700, marcistar wrote:would u want to vote malcolm pookyIn post 1712, marcistar wrote:you still think pookys scum froggy..? why?In post 1719, marcistar wrote:does pooky usually fake claim a pr as scum thats so easy to disprove?There's very little interaction between Marci/Pooky early on and these exchanges look like players who could potentially be partnered. Marci felt very hedgy on Pooky - not completely unwilling to vote there but never particularly pushing Pooky all that strongly either. Their read on the slot feels a little bit inconsistent, like they wanted to create some distance but didn't want to push there in case it picked up momentum.
In post 2850, Cape90 wrote:Okay Malcolm could be scum off this post . It just is really awkwardIn post 2633, MalcolmTucker wrote:Why is this true? You're active, sure, but it's not guaranteed town will follow your reads and it's not even guaranteed all town will trust you, as we're seeing with Titus. Scum could also be perfectly content leaving you alive if you're on the right track as well, or may simply have killed Frogster because they believed he had an important role and one of them had managed to identify it.In post 2622, MathBlade wrote:Ah okay derp.
Yeah NM is lock town. Forgot about that thanks.
Mainly I want to find the scum that kills Frogger over me.Because while I am alive scum are pretty much stuck doing what town decides.
I have to go now but yeah. That’s kinda where I am at.
That and I can’t figure out Titus.
I'm often like this though. When I'm uncertain on things I like clarity. I tend to speculate. Is any of what I said particularly wrong?In post 2851, Cape90 wrote:Just the speculation makes my skin crawl
In your thing it says "no action," does that mean you did not act or that you have not revealed your results?In post 2847, Enchant wrote:Yes.In post 2825, Lukewarm wrote:Am interested in more info on enchants claim too. Has he said more then what is in that post?
My role is also doubled.
In post 2833, MathBlade wrote:How does that test Marci?
I believe she’s that role regardless of her alignment?
I don't think that that is the same result for the scum team, because while it only saves pooky for a single day phase, it shields all other members of the scum team for this day as well --- so my point is that if she was scum, she would have saved pooky anyways. and since he was not saved by a doc, confirming her as a doc would make her more likely today.In post 2834, MathBlade wrote:And if she was on Pooky as I explained to Titus
I would have gotten
1 killing action
1 protective
1 investigative
So then Pooky is just the elim that day
Saving Pooky doesn’t help scum there.
We get the same result.
Except it wouldn’t be a guilty on BGC thoughIn post 2858, Lukewarm wrote:In post 2833, MathBlade wrote:How does that test Marci?
I believe she’s that role regardless of her alignment?I don't think that that is the same result for the scum team, because while it only saves pooky for a single day phase, it shields all other members of the scum team for this day as well --- so my point is that if she was scum, she would have saved pooky anyways. and since he was not saved by a doc, confirming her as a doc would make her more likely today.In post 2834, MathBlade wrote:And if she was on Pooky as I explained to Titus
I would have gotten
1 killing action
1 protective
1 investigative
So then Pooky is just the elim that day
Saving Pooky doesn’t help scum there.
We get the same result.
Also, if she saw a loyal body guard claim saying that they were going to be on him as well, might think that this could provide a false clear on pooky since he would be saved, and the bodyguard might think that he was the one that did it.
Seeing this post, I am realizing that it would result in an unexpected invest on pooky that night, but like, I think that you still might go for it instead of just letting pooky die?
Correct. If I am scum here (which I am not) then wasting effort defending Pooky there would be capital best spent otherwise. Enchant is correct here in what I would do as scum which makes me think he’s trying to sort me which makes me think he is town.In post 2859, Enchant wrote:It was expected result.
Math specifically told that he will be on Pooky.
So there's no reason why mafia would't just shot Math and heal Pooky if Marci is mafia. Unless Marci and Math both scum. But then it's illogical for them to bus Pooky if they can just... not?
Furthermore it would not provide a false clear on Pooky.In post 2860, MathBlade wrote:Except it wouldn’t be a guilty on BGC thoughIn post 2858, Lukewarm wrote:In post 2833, MathBlade wrote:How does that test Marci?
I believe she’s that role regardless of her alignment?I don't think that that is the same result for the scum team, because while it only saves pooky for a single day phase, it shields all other members of the scum team for this day as well --- so my point is that if she was scum, she would have saved pooky anyways. and since he was not saved by a doc, confirming her as a doc would make her more likely today.In post 2834, MathBlade wrote:And if she was on Pooky as I explained to Titus
I would have gotten
1 killing action
1 protective
1 investigative
So then Pooky is just the elim that day
Saving Pooky doesn’t help scum there.
We get the same result.
Also, if she saw a loyal body guard claim saying that they were going to be on him as well, might think that this could provide a false clear on pooky since he would be saved, and the bodyguard might think that he was the one that did it.
Seeing this post, I am realizing that it would result in an unexpected invest on pooky that night, but like, I think that you still might go for it instead of just letting pooky die?
Because of their claims (BG and vig)
If an additional action occurs and no one claimed it then I’d me more convinced BGC was being framed.
Town would have no reason to invest there (because of many many times not to visit) and scum would learn nothing.
It’d make me look for a combined protective investigative.
This is probably the most put together reason behind any of his votes other then greeeting/Alisae day 1 and then Frog end of day 2, and there was steady suspicion on Marci during day 1, into opening up pushing her.In post 1626, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I am currently voting for Marci cuz she isn't reacting like she does when she's town. Her responses are too nonchalant like she is trying to play things cool.
This is a weird place and reason for pooky to drop this town read because we just walked out of a game where math repped in as scum, spammed the shit out of the game, and pooky was screaming for his head. This seems like an easy place for pooky to claim it as "this is Math in Lost 2.0"In post 1460, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:lol mathblade town for the nonstop spam
That was not a going to right now, that was going to next time I get a moment.In post 2865, marcistar wrote:so whatd u decide bestie
That I just thought looked towny when they were catching up. Frankly, I was being a bit lazy and starting to get dissociative with this game since the slower pace was kind of just making me less invested when things slowed way downIn post 1229, MalcolmTucker wrote:I don't think it's passive at all. I'm known for a player who frustratingly and regularly pauses when it comes to reading others at times. I'm still running through the thread since I'd been gone but I'm genuinely intrigued to know what you think - Kitty outlines a pretty blatant, good case on BCG here, so I'm unsure if the kill is a bit obvious coming from scum, because eliminating someone who suspects you/has caught you is something scum are known for sometimes wanting to avoid.
Means for BCG, also the read on Frogster is something that looks a lot more scummy with the knowledge of Frogsterking being town.In post 1224, MalcolmTucker wrote:I'm not really sure why Frogster accuses BCG of being a troll to try and deflect attention away from themselves by BCG instead of just...normally scumreading BCG. The logic here feels like a bit of a reach. BCG has attracted plenty of suspicion so far and isn't exactly an outsider choice scumread, Frogster making up a convoluted reason to suspect and vote for them as scum themselves seems pretty unlikely to me. Approaching it from this POV I think Frogster is probably just town who suspects BCG and genuinely dislikes their play.In post 948, Big Chungus Gaming wrote:this is obnoxious frogster but not with the passion that you feel from town obnoxious frogster
this is someone trying to desperately push someone off fosing their slot and not wanting to use a nightkill on them because crescent was probably an assigned mislim bc of her lowposting and flaking
frog if you are town and playing like this, im disappointed and I cannot say I did not try to extend several olive branches to understand you. i read your posts, I calculated scenarios, and the scenarios where you are mafia are the most likely. if you are town you can reduce that by actaully coming clean about why your thought process is the way it is. otherwise I am sticking to my guts and sticking here.
This response to a slot I think is town at this point seems really shady, I mean MathBlade probably became really obvious town when they got here.In post 1231, MalcolmTucker wrote:This feels really weak and scummy, almost blatantly so to a degree that's comical. One scumread on someone who was inactive, up for policy eliminations for pretty flimsy reasons in Toog's case especially and not much content in general despite being a lengthy post.In post 1027, Charloux wrote:@Mod :I unvoted std, and didn't vote for malcolm
I only have 2 townreads right now and that's Frog and cape. Had a townread on fennec/furtive but it's been kinda fading over time. Not a fan of furtive so far.
My only scum read is Malcolm, and std by extension to him. Malcolm is on V/LA so no point in pushing him.
Maria, Pooky and Gamma/NM i will let be for today.
I'm up for a policy execution on BCG and toog. Toog turned his brain off and is just parroting. Hate BCG whole "Higher than thou" and "can't touch me" attitude following Gamma ban. His exe would bring the game some peace.
Titus, Greeting, Enchant, Kitty and Marci are null. I admit i haven't been paying much attention to Kitty and Greeting.
The priority right now should be me getting a read on Greeting, but the chance of me getting a townread strong enough that i refuse to vote is slim at best.
If i noticed anything scummy at a glance they wouldn't be null right now.