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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:15 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2847, T-Bone wrote:I have no attunement,mention of attunements, or anything like that in my role PM.

So, I'm just looking for someone else, without revealing their role, to just give an indication that they see something similar in theirs. Preferably someone I lean town on, so like a Nancy/Titus or I dunno Enchant?
Mastina can be town.

I will not elaborate but that’s one hell of a fake claim considering my role if it’s not.

It’s definitely not a lie. And we kinda need it to be town.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:16 pm
by unwnd
I still want mastina to respond to me before I consider an unvote

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:16 pm
by unwnd
Eh actually

UNVOTE:

I guess I also don't want someone bigheaded to be like 'golly gee mastina claimed why yes I shall hammer' as well

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:17 pm
by T-Bone
I don't think it's a lie. But Mastina is adamant that the info contained in her role PM makes Rat's claim fake. Since my role PM lacks these things and apparently Enchant too, it's not so clear then yeah?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:17 pm
by Scarfmanship
Stop posting if you don't know your attunment

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:17 pm
by T-Bone
I don't think it's a lie. But Mastina is adamant that the info contained in her role PM makes Rat's claim fake. Since my role PM lacks these things and apparently Enchant too, it's not so clear then yeah?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:18 pm
by Scarfmanship
I am pretty sure power roles are all attuned, and VTs are not attuned, and mafia is going to pick this up quick, so DO NOT SAY IF YOU ARE NOT ATTUNED

UNVOTE:

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:18 pm
by T-Bone
Yeah I agree we probably have enough data points now. I'll say my role says what I can do and my win condition and that's it.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:19 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2854, Scarfmanship wrote:Stop posting if you don't know your attunment
I strongly suspect mine. Know? No.

I think that Mastina would be wise alternating hits on scumreads only if she can swing it.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:19 pm
by Enchant
Neopolitan+Strange Rolecop

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:20 pm
by Scarfmanship
I worded that wrong but I had to get the message out fast, because I think if you have any hints towards your attumenment then you are a PR and if you don't then you're a VT, mastina is a limited vanilla cop, probably limited so that she can't check the same person mulitple times to see if they've been recruited if that's a thing

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:21 pm
by MathBlade
In other words if she can, aim for a Sun the first time and a moon the second time (if she lives that long)

I hope this helps Mastina. I think we have to be careful to eliminate teams in a balanced manner.

If you get two suns or two moons that’s fine but ideally we’d want something balanced.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:23 pm
by T-Bone
I don't want to start mechanic speculating or trying tou out guess the mod cause those things are unproductive but I vibe with Scarf on this page.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:23 pm
by Scarfmanship
Fwiw those quick posts from enchant and tbone make me think they are both very strongly town, but don't do anymore posting about your own attunement.

I know i've been playing pretty shitheaded lately but I did pick up on mastina's crumb about "revealing people's true colors" earlier, which is why i've been on every mastina counterwagon until i lost heart and gave up. I also crumbed that I picked up on it by saying i was pretty sure i knew mastina's role.

I've also more or less outed what i am by my recent posts so if i end up as a sacrifice today so be it.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:25 pm
by T-Bone
Okay so I don't want Scarf to be the Mastina counterwagon now.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:26 pm
by Scarfmanship
In post 2853, T-Bone wrote:I don't think it's a lie. But Mastina is adamant that the info contained in her role PM makes Rat's claim fake. Since my role PM lacks these things and apparently Enchant too, it's not so clear then yeah?
i don't think so because simply being able to heal solar burns could be a sign of attunement to the opposite.

math implies that they are sort of attuned in recent posts if i'm reading correctly. but math doesn't have a restriction about using abilities on only day/night phases. so it is still within the realm of possibility that RR is town and doesn't have a usage restriction.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:26 pm
by MathBlade
You have no idea just how gamebreaking that is Mastina.

Let me sleep overnight and I will reread your wall and try to find a common scumread. Most of mine are in your TRs though

My world for a neighbor. /le sigh

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:27 pm
by Past Present Future
Umm mastina, how do you have a read on a head that has never posted? Auro has said nothing.

~Titus

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:27 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2865, Scarfmanship wrote:
In post 2853, T-Bone wrote:I don't think it's a lie. But Mastina is adamant that the info contained in her role PM makes Rat's claim fake. Since my role PM lacks these things and apparently Enchant too, it's not so clear then yeah?
i don't think so because simply being able to heal solar burns could be a sign of attunement to the opposite.

math implies that they are sort of attuned in recent posts if i'm reading correctly. but math doesn't have a restriction about using abilities on only day/night phases. so it is still within the realm of possibility that RR is town and doesn't have a usage restriction.
Dayvig is my claim. It’s dusk 2 or dawn 2. There’s a limitation for you.

There have also been several things and I have stated such I am keeping secret.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:28 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2867, Past Present Future wrote:Umm mastina, how do you have a read on a head that has never posted? Auro has said nothing.

~Titus
I agree her reads are illogical but she’s town.

Happy?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:28 pm
by mastina
IIIII should be in bed,
I should be in bed
Why am I postingggg
It's an hour past time,
I should be in beddd
But I wanna do this nowwwww.
In post 2843, Scarfmanship wrote:Yes, one of your crumbs was when you said you would reveal people's true colors, right?
Yup!

VOTE: Bunnyonce
(this is mostly a Scarfmanship unvote)

Scarfmanship isn't locktowned for the post-claim-reveal posting but definitely is less of a priority for me imo. Not sure what that means for reads, need to take a look at things tomorrow with all the new info.

I agree with Scarf tho that T-Bone and Enchant both hard town.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:29 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2870, mastina wrote:IIIII should be in bed,
I should be in bed
Why am I postingggg
It's an hour past time,
I should be in beddd
But I wanna do this nowwwww.
In post 2843, Scarfmanship wrote:Yes, one of your crumbs was when you said you would reveal people's true colors, right?
Yup!

VOTE: Bunnyonce
(this is mostly a Scarfmanship unvote)

Scarfmanship isn't locktowned for the post-claim-reveal posting but definitely is less of a priority for me imo. Not sure what that means for reads, need to take a look at things tomorrow with all the new info.

I agree with Scarf tho that T-Bone and Enchant both hard town.
VOTE: Bunny

Why not?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:29 pm
by Scarfmanship
In post 2868, MathBlade wrote:
Dayvig is my claim. It’s dusk 2 or dawn 2. There’s a limitation for you.

There have also been several things and I have stated such I am keeping secret.
To be clear, "dusk 2 or dawn 2" isn't a limitation that is sun or moon flavored in either direction is what i meant.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:30 pm
by Radical Rat
Sounds like you just have mod-confirmed existence of an investigation immunity. I don't know why you'd expect that to apply to me, though it is good information to have.

I do believe your claim, and actually see exactly why you reacted the way you did to Math's crumbs now. The catch there is that I stand by what I said before. Especially with roles this specific, I don't believe a Townie looks at vague crumbs and jumps to the conclusion that scum is softing a role they likely don't know exists. I do believe a relatively powerful scum role expects a counterpart on the other team and would be sensitive to clues on that front.

The ability itself... Could go either way, but seems more useful for scum. For Town, it's not a hard guilty, but it does allow us to determine players aren't on the SAME scumteam... But for scum Moon attunement means a potential rival, while Sun attunement means potential interference (like me). And then there's one other thing...

You mentioned you think your role implies recruitment exists. I don't see what implies recruitment in any of that, so where is that coming from?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:31 pm
by T-Bone
For the record Mastina's claim is NAI there's no reason any role cannot be scum. Im fine letting these threads breathe for a bit so I can also sleep.