New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[Dunnstral]

what is your case on implosion lmfao

This is literally what I was asking you guys all of day 1 . Don't start with that

[Wake1]

POST VEDITH [MAFIA NEOPOLITAN] FLIP

0173 - Nosferatu votes Zach
0177 - Titus: 'Welcome to the townreads Nos.'
0178 - Nosferatu: 'I get such bad vibez from implosion man'
0179 - Transcend: 'nos is leaning town.'
0295 - implosion: 'W/e I guess I probably shouldn't worry too much about him if he's town he'll make it apparent to me. But Nos is worrisome.'
0300 - Peregrine agrees with 178 about bad vibes on implosion
0325 - Almost50 responding to Dunnstral's comment on Nos: 'hardly suggests you're town reading him too.' [More to it]
0403 - implosion: 'Nos is probably town if I had to hazard a guess. The focus on vibes from me seems like an odd thing to be the only thing he's mentioned as scum.'
0419 - Lapsa: 'i actually got problems with Nos. although i haven't been thorough on that read'
0540 - Zach: 'If anyone's opposed to lynching a V/LA we can switch to Nos as I'm fine with that.'
0592 - 'Hi, not caught up, but Zach is better now.'
0739 - Lapsa has Nosferatu as Scum on bottom of list
0840 - Me vs Dunnstral: 'I don't see a lack of consistency here.'
0842 - Dunnstral: 'Nos I'm glad you came out of the shadows to white knight me but have you read the rest of the game?'
0843 - Zach about Nosferatu: 'I'm kinda comfy with voting that slot.'
0965 - Transcend: 'yeah well i think nos is town.'
0966 - Boem: 'You think nosferatu is town? Based on what, his gut feel about implosion? Your reads are weird man, you are too quick to jump to conclusions.'
1033 - Performer: 'Lapsa why do you tr me and what're these problems with Nos?'
1036 - Lapsa: 'nos is lurking'
1095 - Zach: 'I agree with your Nosferatu read, Wake.'
1127 - Zach: 'I'm down with nosferatu, implosion and maybe PeregrineV and shannon lynches.'
1129 - Zach: 'I'm more comfortable with killing Nos. Killing him dead.'
1132 - Titus: 'I am fine with a Nos lynch, not my favorite but acceptable.'
1137 - Wake: 'Zach, Performer, Titus, Dunnstral, Podoq. Vote Nosferatu please.'
1138 - Titus: 'OK, I don 't wanna vote Nos now.'
1141 - Performer: 'I can concur that Nos has been void of substance in his ISO, and for no good reason. '
1162 - Zach:

'Performer
Podoboq
Nosferatu


Top to bottom, least to most.'

1183 - Titus: 'I think it's a town replace out. We cannot mention ongoing though.'
1184 - Nos @ Boem: 'that's a loaded question. If you guys were still looking for scum, ^^^^^.'

1221 - Zach: 'Nos is the lynch let's go'
1222 - Dunn: 'What if I want to get sickofit'
1223 - Titus: 'Nos isn't on my list, so no.'
1224 - podoboq: 'VOTE: nosferatu. I'm OK with this.'

1237 - Zach: '

Why exactly are you opposed to lynching Nosferatu?

'
1238 - Titus:

1. There's nothing scummy in his ISO.
2. The subout was really townie.
3. Wake wants to lynch him and is pushing it.
4. Wake is willing to lynch Sick of it and not pushing it.
5. Every single other push by Wake (myself, Dunn, boem) lately has been obvious town, so anything he wants I am opposed to.
6. Any reason given to lynch Nos fits others better.

1286 - Boem: 'Both Nosferatu and Sickofit could be mafia who just gave up and left the game so I'm fine with lynching either of them.'
1299 - Titus: 'Umm Nos did gather heat and has a wagon. He subbed out so someone more engaged could play. That's townie.'
1305 - Performer:

Before the page 47 behaviors from Zach + Wake, I was thinking Nos was a good place to go too. I was even tr on Wake , as it seemed he was figuring things out logically and wanted feedback on his reads lists, which looked like he was trying involve folks.
Then I voted Trans, agreed with him about scummy Nos before the replace-out post, he asked me to vote Nos and he wasn't even voting Nos at that point, I turned down the request since starting a new wagon was pointless, then his 1159 placed me as scum, as scum, Zach suddenly came out with 1162 placing me as scum too .

Boem, tell me how many games total have you played , as well as how many large normals you've played? When I was newer to FM, I used to think scum was more likely to replace out, but down the road I found town was more likely. It also depends on the situation. In this case, Nos stated replace out due to too many games. Zach and Wake's egregious pushes on that slot also made me lean town on that slot . I've seen this happen before.

VOTE: Wake

1445 - Dunnstral won't vote Nos: 'Switch to sickofit'
1460 - Dunnstral: 'Nosferatu was town'

1501 - Zach: Has Nosferatu as Scumread
1541 - Dunnstral: 'all the lurkers except nos'
1628 - Zach: 'It's a fucking billion lightyears ahead of it because Nos(Now Vedith) is scum and I've already said Sickofit is a mislynch.'
1641 - Zach: VOTE: Vedith
1651 - Transcend: 'Pretty sure implosion is mafia and nos was right about him'
1710 - Dunnstral @ Zach: 'Why even are you voting nos'

1891 - Vedith:

Hello all.
More shortly!

Titus - give me the down low please

1902 - Vedith: '

Titus had a very strong argument to being town. Detail why I should vote her.

'
1922 - Vedith:

Well Titus is absolutely stupid there for claiming regardless of the reason.
Not sure how I feel on this, would Titus be so bold as scum here? However, I'm seeing it more as role hunting rather than saving.
Why would Titus put the chance in someone without knowing their role. And the only way she can know Dunn's role is either as Mason or scum (which she has confirm that she isn't Mason).

UNVOTE: Whoever I'm voting
VOTE: Titus

2073 - Boem: 'Your posts are complete shit. You are fitting replacement for Nosferatu.'
2099 - Zach: 'And you guys are smoking PCP if you don't want to lynch Vedith every time he speaks. We're not lynching Titus, god damn it it's an obvious ML.'

2117 - Wake:

Nosferatu did not provide content.

Why exactly are you all going after Vedith?

Give me a sentence or two. Some sort of content.

2118 - Dunnstral: 'He's Mafia'

*Around 2101 players started to shift against Vedith, and though I Scumread Nosferatu I was fooled by Vedith. I had been willing to ignore the previous slot-occupier in order to be fair.

I'm going to check Lapsa's interactions with other players.

I want more feedback on this post please.

[Boem_u_dusi]

I'm just shamelessly sheeping Dunnstral for now.

Forever

[Zachstralkita]

what is your case on implosion lmfao

This is literally what I was asking you guys all of day 1 . Don't start with that

Why are you acting like a fucking rock? Quit pissing around Day 1 has nothing to do with this

[Dunnstral]

I'm going to check Lapsa's interactions with other players.

....

I shot him dude

[Dunnstral]

what is your case on implosion lmfao

This is literally what I was asking you guys all of day 1 . Don't start with that

Why are you acting like a fucking rock? Quit pissing around Day 1 has nothing to do with this

BECAUSE HE HAD A BAD POST I VOTED HIM

That's my case

[implosion]

Why? Because town are going to tunnel town into the fucking ground

Who specifically are you afraid of this happening with? Titus I assume, or others as well?

[Dunnstral]

Lapsa

25 - dunnstral vote
28 - dunnstral
32 - implosion
35 - implosion
190 - performer
191 - dunnstral
192 - wake88
203 - dunnstral unvote
206 - implosion
210 - sickofit
213 - dunnstral
215 - zachstral
217 - shannon
218 - nosferatu/transcend
219 - boem
281 - titus
282 - performer
284 - zachstral
287 - boem
288 - mirhawk
289 - zachstral
294 - podoboq
296 - zachstral
298 - zachstral
302 - peregrine
305 - almost50
346 - podoboq
414 - podoboq
415 - shannon
416 - performer
417 - performer
419 - implosion
420 - implosion (reads list, leaves out mirhawk)
421 - podoboq
452 - podoboq
454 - zachstral
456 - titus
462 - titus vote
498 - titus
502 - zachstral
504 - titus
521 - lapsa
539 - titus
566 - titus
567 - agar
623 - dunnstral
626 - wake88
627 - mirhawk vote (looks like distancing)
699 - zachstral
703 - zachstral
704 - zachstral
709 - zachstral
711 - zachstral
716 - zachstral
718 - varsoon
721 - zachstral
729 - zachstral
734 - zachstral/titus vote (asked to question mirhawk; doesn't)
739 - read list (mirhawk mafia - no interaction)
742 - mirhawk (strange, saying it is worth towncred when it came before his reads list, but doesn't influence it)

Past this point, he never interacts with mirhawk again.

[Zachstralkita]

Why? Because town are going to tunnel town into the fucking ground

Who specifically are you afraid of this happening with? Titus I assume, or others as well?

The Wake and Titus bullshit.

what is your case on implosion lmfao

This is literally what I was asking you guys all of day 1 . Don't start with that

Why are you acting like a fucking rock? Quit pissing around Day 1 has nothing to do with this

BECAUSE HE HAD A BAD POST I VOTED HIM

That's my case

Okay WHAT ABOUT THAT POST IS BAD EXPLAIN IT LIKE I'M A HAMSTER



And you made a list of fucking Lapsa interactions just to shoot him?

[Wake1]

I'm going to check Lapsa's interactions with other players.

....

I shot him dude

I know that.

I want to see how people reacted to

Lapsa

as he went after

Nosferatu

.

[Zachstralkita]

Good waste of your shot btw

[Dunnstral]

And you made a list of fucking Lapsa interactions just to shoot him?

Shh

I want to hear what Titus has to say when I said she was more suspicious if I protected from a kill

[implosion]

And Zach I will look at Performer again later (I agree with you completely about titus/wake) but I do have what I think is a pretty solid townread based on Performer's play in a vacuum; if you want to try to convince me I'm willing to listen.

[Dunnstral]

Okay WHAT ABOUT THAT POST IS BAD EXPLAIN IT LIKE I'M A HAMSTER

Well for one, he is now seemingly ignoring me....

Even though a second ago he was content to sheep what I was voting

Anyway it was the most opportunistic vote ever and it just the post didn't feel right

[Dunnstral]

Good waste of your shot btw

It wasn't a waste. I would have been pursuing lapsa/mirhawk connections today

[Zachstralkita]

And Zach I will look at Performer again later (I agree with you completely about titus/wake) but I do have what I think is a pretty solid townread based on Performer's play in a vacuum; if you want to try to convince me I'm willing to listen.

Just cause it looks like he's playing town doesn't actually mean he is. His posts look posty but I don't think there's any substance and I don't think he has intent to scumhunt.

Vedith's lynch was lucky because that lynch would never have been achieved with Dunnstral/Titus dominating Day 1. Varsoon did right to fakeclaim.

Good waste of your shot btw

It wasn't a waste. I would have been pursuing lapsa/mirhawk connections today

He literally said he would disappear and only post again to say Titus is dumb

I peeped his meta on Day 1 apparently arrogant town is his thing

[implosion]

Okay WHAT ABOUT THAT POST IS BAD EXPLAIN IT LIKE I'M A HAMSTER

Well for one, he is now seemingly ignoring me....

Even though a second ago he was content to sheep what I was voting

Anyway it was the most opportunistic vote ever and it just the post didn't feel right

You aren't really saying anything relevant to me... if you were giving reasons that you disliked my post i'd have responded to them, if you nakedly vote me I don't really have anything to say to you.

I want my vote to do something; to that end I'd rather vote together with someone else than throw out a naked vote on, say, Mirhawk. This should be clear from my play yesterday. It's early in the day and I feel like I haven't thought anything strongly about A50 since that one post I townread him for early d1 and I looked back at that post, and thought it was pretty mediocre (maybe slightly town but certainly not strongly).

[Dunnstral]

I peeped his meta on Day 1 apparently arrogant town is his thing

Guess what

So Did I

He looked different this game

It's not like he was going to scumhunt anyway so whatever

[beeboy]

Beeboy

[Dunnstral]

probably

What if I told you all 6 people who fast wagonned vedith were town?

[Zachstralkita]

thats fucking awful Dunn YOU wanted to lynch Almost50 and YOUR vote was just as opportunistic

this is coming from the guy who wanted to lynch implosion but implosion < performer right now

probably

What if I told you all 6 people who fast wagonned vedith were town?

Get the fuck out of here oh my god


by the way Vedith was a prime example of the TrueGent factor. that's 2 for me!

[Dunnstral]

Gonna need a real good reason to be voting performer

Over like, 5 other people who I could vote before him

[Zachstralkita]

Gonna need a real good reason to be voting performer

Over like, 5 other people who I could vote before him

go ahead push town

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

Not pushing anything

I am OPEN to ideas

[Wake1]

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