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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:31 pm
by mastina
In post 2560, SirCakez wrote:I think mastina needs to flip at this point for game progression. Her recent posting is just awful and her feud with RC (and everyone really) is super antitown and destroying the thread.
Do tell.

Because I've been giving plenty of reads and reasons and they are anything but antitown to give.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:32 pm
by Shuichi Saihara
In post 2684, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 2682, Shuichi Saihara wrote:You wouldn't know a case if it bit you.
Why do you think WW is scum?
God, it's been so long since they did anything I don't even remember. I've just thought they were scum since basically when I started playing, I can probably look back to find why, and their continued refusal to do anything even though there are two of them and they don't appear to have a real reason for that is not doing that read any favors.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:32 pm
by We are not helping
In post 2873, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 2871, We are not helping wrote:What do we do if jjh flips scum?

-bitmap
Watch RC carry your game
ok

-bitmap

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:33 pm
by mastina
In post 2564, We are not helping wrote:MASTINA WOULD YOU ENDORSE A VECNA LYNCH
Hell no, absolutely not. Vecna is locktown.

The only lynches on your side that I endorse are {RC, GIF, Shuichi}. Very outside chance of Lie Ren.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:33 pm
by BBmolla
In post 2865, gobbledygook wrote:BBmolla is town I think, but I could be fooled
lol dude you've seen my scumplay

I'd be a lot more miserable if I was scum here

pretty sure jj is town

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:33 pm
by Trojan Horses
In post 2876, Shuichi Saihara wrote:anything even though there are two of them and they don't appear to have a real reason for that is not doing that read any favors
Yes, but that seems to be weakly town indicative for them, actually. I said this long long ago and now Gobbles also concurs.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:34 pm
by SirCakez
Weren't there early indicators of jjh-mastina being scum together

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:34 pm
by Trojan Horses
In post 2879, BBmolla wrote:I'd be a lot more miserable if I was scum here
I think if you were scum without a partner in jjh, Mastina you'd be very happy now actually.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:35 pm
by Shuichi Saihara
In post 2818, mastina wrote:
In post 2519, Shuichi Saihara wrote:
In post 2497, mastina wrote:I don't actually have a problem with this.
I would suggest the inclusion of SirCakez--you might note that my reason for townreading Vecna is pretty much identical to him. That while I know SirCakez has a strong scumgame and that it's been years since I played with him, that the overwhelming feeling that I get from his aura is that he is town.

With those four as town, who're the five left in the game?
{RC, Shuichi Saihara, Baezu, Lie Ren, GuyInFreezer}.
I can't think of a way this scumlist could be worse.
I can't think of a way you could strawman my post any worse given that you literally cut out the part where I narrow it down further:
In post 2497, mastina wrote:So what does that leave?
{RC, Shuichi Saihara, GuyInFreezer}.
Yes what a colossal strawman that is, truly you should send the misrep police to arrest me.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:35 pm
by RadiantCowbells
You're under ARREST

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:35 pm
by Shuichi Saihara
In post 2827, mastina wrote:
In post 2521, Shuichi Saihara wrote:This is laughable. A majority of town are united on reads that oppose yours so you're pretending the opposite of what's happening is what's happening.
Except they aren't.
The majority of the town agrees Trojan Horses is town.
The majority of the town agrees We Are Not Helping is town.
The majority of the town agrees Vecna is town.
There is a slightly lower, but still prevalent, majority of the town who agrees SirCakez is town.
The majority of the town agrees Baezu is town.
The majority of the town agrees Molla is town.
The majority of the town agrees Turkey is town.

I'll profess that there's disagreement in regards to the scumreads based off of the above--but my scumreads aren't the majority of my reads. The town is, mostly, in agreement with those reads and I have been very vocal about the above reads.
This post contains several lies.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:36 pm
by BBmolla
In post 2882, Trojan Horses wrote:
In post 2879, BBmolla wrote:I'd be a lot more miserable if I was scum here
I think if you were scum without a partner in jjh, Mastina you'd be very happy now actually.
a mastina/me scumteam here would be a straight up comedy act

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:36 pm
by northsidegal
In post 2868, RadiantCowbells wrote:Ur face is a pretty good analysis
hey, you're right!

Image

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:38 pm
by SirCakez
If there's daychat I can't imagine what the scum thread looks like right now lmao

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:38 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I mean

Scum quickhammered because we decided not to lynch outed scum

And this is why when the gamestate hits this point u gotta lynch

NSG you're a brilliant player but you don't understand how actions develop gamestates

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:39 pm
by mastina
In post 2572, We are not helping wrote:brb i need to find when she swapped her reads on jormun
Wasn't on Jormun--was on Vecna:
In post 1767, mastina wrote:
In post 1704, RadiantCowbells wrote:i am really confused by people townreading vecna entrance but ok
I mean. Vecna makes me want to lynch the slot less--his contributions are probably thusfar nai, his content so far is probably neither town nor scum, not outside his scumrange, not clearing him. But like. Gotta admit.

As hypocritical as it is to say this given my stance on nsg. His content sure does make me not want to lynch him, at least right now. Where in spite of me knowing effort != alignment, his content feels like it's worth letting live for longer. So I'd focus more on {RC, GIF, Shuichi}.
Start of the transition.
In post 1793, mastina wrote:
In post 1760, We are not helping wrote:Unpopular opinion: NSG feels like she's being coached by someone resembling RC and it's bugging me b/c my hydra has RC as town.
Simple solution; you're wrong because RC is scum this game.
It's {nsg, Wonderwall | RC, ?Shuichi?} as the far most likely scumteam at this stage, with outside options of GIF, Vecna, and farside.
In post 1934, mastina wrote:
In post 1905, RadiantCowbells wrote:but mastina dying was time sensitive
i dont have the energy to fight her for the rest of my life
He's literally fucking claiming scum here by saying "I needed mastina dead here".

Remember that
I am flipping town here
.
RC can try to bullshit it all he wants.
He can try to give excuses for it all he wants.
But I will flip town and then you fucks WON'T let him get away with it or there will be
words
.

NSG is scum; Wonderwall is scum; RC is scum.
Last scum is RC's partner, pool of {Vecna, Shuichi, GIF}. Vecna unlikely, so in Shuichi/GIF, lean Shuichi.
Transitions.
In post 2497, mastina wrote:
In post 2065, RadiantCowbells wrote:ur literally voting vecna and just finsihed trying to quicklynch them and now you are trying to townblock with them
Honestly I'm at the point where I'm willing to call Vecna town. I know, been years since I played with him; I remember him having a somewhat strong scumgame; the slot was suspicious before he came in and if Vecna's scumgame is somewhat strong then his contributions shouldn't be enough to warrant that townread.

But at a certain point I have to go fuckit, the excuses to hold back on townreading him are exactly that, excuses, that the overwhelming feeling, aura, I get from him is that he is town and that, yes, he should be included in a townbloc. So in actuality,
In post 2059, Trojan Horses wrote:Awesome.
{Vecna, Trojan Horses, WANH} townbloc :D
I don't actually have a problem with this.
I would suggest the inclusion of SirCakez--you might note that my reason for townreading Vecna is pretty much identical to him. That while I know SirCakez has a strong scumgame and that it's been years since I played with him, that the overwhelming feeling that I get from his aura is that he is town.

With those four as town, who're the five left in the game?
{RC, Shuichi Saihara, Baezu, Lie Ren, GuyInFreezer}.
I think that Lie Ren is null-at-worst, with a reasonable chance at being town.
I had an early townread on Baezu and I still think that holds.

So what does that leave?

{RC, Shuichi Saihara, GuyInFreezer}.

And I can see either Shuichi or GIF as being RC's scumbuddy. (I technically could see a Shuichi/GIF scumteam but like. This is RadiantCowbells's scumgame here, so. It's a question of finding him and his partner.)

To put that in readslist format:

We Are Not Helping + Trojan Horses (locktown of locktown of locktown)
SirCakez + Vecna (townbloc locktown)

Baezu (weak townread)


Lie Ren (nulltown read)

Shuichi Saihara + GuyInFreezer
RadiantCowbells.
And final read reversal to townread.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:40 pm
by northsidegal
In post 2889, RadiantCowbells wrote:I mean

Scum quickhammered because we decided not to lynch outed scum

And this is why when the gamestate hits this point u gotta lynch

NSG you're a brilliant player but you don't understand how actions develop gamestates
there's a lot of other things that could've happened and specific factors that had to come together to get us to where we are now. i think a direct causal line from "we didn't lynch in halloween" to "scum mastina quickhammered" would be fairly inaccurate by virtue of leaving out a lot of relevant details.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:41 pm
by mastina
In post 2583, SirCakez wrote:I've given up on trying to engage mastina btw
Yeah and that's entirely your fault because I'm entirely willing to engage with you but when you call me scum, call my posting antitown, call me shit, that's entirely on YOUR end, not mine.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:41 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Btw

I want Nancy to set aside a few hours and talk to me if she can

I'm not engaging further with Auro and I don't know how to read Sky

Also Mastina you are not getting anyone to do jack shit. You have no ability to prevent me town leading. Can you please just accept this quickhammer as your contribution to scum win condition and shut the fuck up already because nothing you do is going to change anything but it will make everyone enjoy this game less.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:41 pm
by northsidegal
that was mostly a joke anyways, although i still think that it would've been better to wait to lynch, jjh was about the best candidate i could've come up with for a random early lynch to happen on.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:42 pm
by RadiantCowbells
In post 2891, northsidegal wrote:
In post 2889, RadiantCowbells wrote:I mean

Scum quickhammered because we decided not to lynch outed scum

And this is why when the gamestate hits this point u gotta lynch

NSG you're a brilliant player but you don't understand how actions develop gamestates
there's a lot of other things that could've happened and specific factors that had to come together to get us to where we are now. i think a direct causal line from "we didn't lynch in halloween" to "scum mastina quickhammered" would be fairly inaccurate by virtue of leaving out a lot of relevant details.
Look when the gamestate gets hot you have to give it a lynch because someone is going to get lynched and if you don't give the game a lynch they will find a lynch on their own.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:42 pm
by Shuichi Saihara
I'm having trouble finding much of anything alignment indicative in the general mess the thread is right now.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:42 pm
by gobbledygook
Ya RC is town

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:42 pm
by RadiantCowbells
In post 2894, northsidegal wrote:jjh was about the best candidate i could've come up with for a random early lynch to happen on.
Disagree but okay.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:43 pm
by mastina
In post 2595, We are not helping wrote:oh my god is mastina really catching up like 10 posts at a time
Yes, this is what I've been doing the entire game long.

The only difference between me doing it in the past and now is that there are people online who keep posting.

I'd have finished catching up if people hadn't kept posting by now, but I'm still ten pages behind. I'll get there eventually and then maybe I can eat my breakfast and go elsewhere. (Yes it's 4:45 pm and I've yet to eat breakfast, this game's more important.)