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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:45 am
by shellyc
In post 2871, PlusJOYED wrote:wtf? This game is pretty closely related to psychology
uhh yeah I meant more as to specific terminology used in psychology

I need to get your mindset to read you. making yourself unreadable is pro-scum

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:45 am
by shellyc
daddy

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:45 am
by innocentvillager
In post 2873, osuka wrote:
In post 2853, innocentvillager wrote:osuka if you are town nice job
This is scum that has given up

Not sure how else you could possibly interpret this
it is literal sarcasm

....why would scum!me move my vote off you onto myself when you are literally 2 votes from getting elimd

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:46 am
by shellyc
In post 2873, osuka wrote:
In post 2853, innocentvillager wrote:osuka if you are town nice job
This is scum that has given up

Not sure how else you could possibly interpret this
town that has given up...

Like I just recently got a lim in mylo using "this is scum that gave up" on an inactive poster

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:46 am
by shellyc
scum in this chaotic mess can easily latch on to whatever wagon and get a free misaim

tbh I don't see scum!iv doing this

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:47 am
by shellyc
*mislim

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:47 am
by PlusJOYED
leaning towards this being IV scum AtE
I think frusterated town IV would have walked away after the self vote and come back later. Instead he's sulking here to drive it in, definitely trying to take advantage of it regardless

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:47 am
by innocentvillager
In post 2828, innocentvillager wrote:if I were town!osuka knowing what I know I would definitely have doubts about scum!IV at this point I think

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:47 am
by shellyc
lets dive deeper plusjoy

scum!iv uses AtE to do what exactly? get votes on himself?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:48 am
by shellyc
what is he trying to do by self voting

he gains nothing by doing that AtE so I can only interpret it as frustrated town

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:48 am
by innocentvillager
I have been away from this game for 2 days

I came back and came to the same conclusion

I am not heated right now

This is my belief in what is best for me and town

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:49 am
by shellyc
In post 2881, PlusJOYED wrote:ould have walked away after the self vote and come back later.
you're generalising too much

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:52 am
by innocentvillager
I also kind of just want to know who is scum at this point and get spoilered

like scum is literally never going to kill me so I’m either going to survive to LYLO (almost impossible) or just get eliminated by town earlier

I’d much rather just give you guys something to work with after I flip NOW rather than later

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:52 am
by PlusJOYED
ok heres my thinking shelly:
scum IV did a scumslip a while back
He whined about how he should just die and broke down. It got Mena to feel sympathy and hard defend him for like 5 pages since they had scumslips as town before apparently and dismantled the wagon. Now that he's up in votes and sees it, he hopes to use the same strategy again to have his mena pocket save him. And if he dies and flips red mena will probably get elimed day 2 for defending and he knows that. This is the best place for it, since mena is tunneling osuka and osuka is highest in votes. Mena will feel bad again and tunnel a townie for him. Rinse and repeat as needed.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:56 am
by PlusJOYED
I don't think how much you realize shelly that mena holds a lot of influence right now; who do you think got osuka to the highest votes? Mena has probably the most influence tbh, able to convince Ydrasse, andres, you, and possibly more to vote almost anyone. That pocket is op and he can rely on it hard for as long as possible.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:57 am
by innocentvillager
I’m trying to think of whether I would do this as scum or not and actually answer I think is maybe

So I wouldn’t even fault any of you for hopping on my wagon at this point, I do believe my AtE at this point has been kind of NAI

And yes I am very aware I am AtEing here but it’s not for a specific objective it’s literally just AtE for its sake

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:58 am
by PlusJOYED
Here, when Mena sees this, they will tryhard to get an osuka elim and it will probably happen. Osuka will flip green. IV will whine about being a burden with bad reads start of day 2 and the same thing will happen again. IV needs to die today.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:00 am
by innocentvillager
yeah if osuka dies today and is green I will probably just self vote unless I get a revelation overnight

If he flips red I will try I promise

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:01 am
by innocentvillager
it’s not like I didn’t try yesterday, I did spend like 1-2 hours rereading stuff

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:01 am
by PlusJOYED
My point is shelly, is that AtE got IV out of trouble before, why wouldn't he do it again

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:02 am
by innocentvillager
I feel like this is one of those spots where if I flip green it will be incredibly easy to hindsight bias paint me as town and if I flip red it will also be incredibly hindsight bias obvious that I was red

so yeah bias is a thing guys not everything is scummy just because you think they’re scum, you can come up with a reason to interpret anything either way

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:04 am
by PlusJOYED
well iv if you flip green im the day 2 elim pretty sure
well me or osuka

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:32 am
by Andresvmb
In post 2801, Kerset wrote:
In post 2423, Andresvmb wrote:Kerset is tunneling Teacher almost, after somewhat tunneling me. plusJOYED’s makes it pretty clear where they would vote, which also includes Teacher.
lol? i called out ONE doubt on you and it causes you to act like chihuahua
I asked you multiple times to update your read and you never did. I believe the only one of the two constantly being accused of whining is you not me.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:45 am
by Andresvmb
The thing is, I don’t think it’s very likely this game that all of Menalque, IV and Osuka are Town. I don’t. But there’s something off about the way Menalque is pushing for Osuka, and frankly I think there’s something off about the way Osuka is pushing IV. And the more I read plusJOYED, the more I think they’re kind of informed about alignments and enjoying throwing darts from the sideline.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:47 am
by Andresvmb
I don’t understand why Bob is being so passive. To be honest, I have one read I trust, and I think everybody else could potentially be Scum. And I generally find myself in games TR’ing too many people, and not what’s happening here.