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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:02 am
by Titus

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:03 am
by MathBlade
In post 2874, Titus wrote:
In post 2870, Bell wrote:
In post 2869, Titus wrote:Outside of the mason claim, is anyone townreading LLD?
It’s all related to the mason claim and her behavior and timing surrounding it. I think her claim has legitimacy in part because she claimed early, it was unlikely to be a fake claim provided by cabd or penguin and it was proactively done. Eye brows are going to be raised if she lives much longer.

I don’t think this is a productive avenue for exploration.
In your previous experience with lld fake claiming mason, did they do it so early?
Yes. She was in a hood with Katsuki and convinced them(?) to go along. I'll try to find the game.
I mean I don’t think scum also agrees to crumb it.

Let’s assume LLD and Pooky are not masons.
In that world I would go after LLD first not Pooky.

I don’t see scum!Pooky being in a hood with notMason!LLD then LLD saying “Hey you should crumb with me” then scum Pooky going “Okay sure! I will crumb with you in a game where anything could happen”. It’s like begging to be guiltied.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:04 am
by MathBlade
So if we assume LLD is not a mason, Pooky is almost certainly still town for crumbing mason with LLD.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:05 am
by DrippingGoofball
In blue, things Pooky always does as town.
In red, things Pooky may do as scum (???)
In post 2865, SirCakez wrote:THESIS
Pooky's entire day 1 strategy revolved around
buddying people and coasting
until he got pressure from me for it. After that point, he dedicated the rest of his day to an essentially
OMGUS push
on me INCLUDING SIGNIFICANTLY AT
THE KEY POINT
WHERE IT WAS
EITHER MASTINA OR I WHO WAS GOING TO BE ELIMMED
.
He did not perform ANY original scumhunting day 1
- all of his pushes day 1 consist of either
sheeping
or
attacking people who attacked him.

He used being leashed
to LLD as
an excuse to not take responsibility for his vote.

He repeatedly expressed
fake-ass indignation that anyone could be scumreading him
- despite all of the above.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:06 am
by Titus
In post 2877, MathBlade wrote:So if we assume LLD is not a mason, Pooky is almost certainly still town for crumbing mason with LLD.
Pooky disavowed those "crumbs". You are tunneled on Pooky town.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:08 am
by MathBlade
In post 1099, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:someone talk to me about the game, something interesting and fresh.

Also, Pooky got my back so he better not vote anywhere I don't vote.

I'm watching you bear. That foam finger should have my face on it.
I didn’t quote all of them.

Foam finger should have LLD’s face

I mean c’mon....they’re at least talking in that and a few posts prior with how rapid fire it was. It was at minimum planned.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:11 am
by MathBlade
There comes a point when you just gotta give up the goose here Titus.

Pooky and LLD are masons.

If you think I am scum, I am one of the best mason/PR hunters on the site.

You’re being incredibly antitown pushing LLD or Pooky today which is why I ignored Cakez’s wall.

The simple answer if you’re town is Cakez is buddying you.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:13 am
by SirCakez
In post 2878, DrippingGoofball wrote:In blue, things Pooky always does as town.
In red, things Pooky may do as scum (???)
In post 2865, SirCakez wrote:THESIS
Pooky's entire day 1 strategy revolved around
buddying people and coasting
until he got pressure from me for it. After that point, he dedicated the rest of his day to an essentially
OMGUS push
on me INCLUDING SIGNIFICANTLY AT
THE KEY POINT
WHERE IT WAS
EITHER MASTINA OR I WHO WAS GOING TO BE ELIMMED
.
He did not perform ANY original scumhunting day 1
- all of his pushes day 1 consist of either
sheeping
or
attacking people who attacked him.

He used being leashed
to LLD as
an excuse to not take responsibility for his vote.

He repeatedly expressed
fake-ass indignation that anyone could be scumreading him
- despite all of the above.
no stop with this
I have experience with Pooky and he does better than this as town

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:14 am
by SirCakez
I knew somebody was gonna pull out that stupid "pooky always plays like this!!!!" argument
Go find another game where he was as useless as this one as town

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:17 am
by DrippingGoofball
Good sleuthing. Claiming mason early in this game is a good way to gain artifacts, no? I haven't read the game rules as usual :oops:

I have a hard time reading Pooky in general because his tone plays with y heartstrings but on the basis of his relationship with the mastinascum wagon, I'd be willing to vote there, though I wouldn't have the confidence to push it.

I would be willing to yeet Dunstral on the basis of his #1060 alone, it's classic scum "I have very strong scumreads on townies but I'm very waffly on my buddy
in case I need to bus at some point
" or abreviated, ICINTBASP.

For reference, Dunnstral's #1060:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12621496

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:19 am
by SirCakez
I agree is terrible good call-out DGB

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:21 am
by MathBlade
Now I am willing to compromise on Dunn, but imho mechanically one scum should be in Dunn/you/me/Cakez Titus.

This should be a fact you’re working from.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:22 am
by MathBlade
You know what,
Fuck it

VOTE: Dunn

Flash wagon!!!!

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:33 am
by Bell
She claimed mason day two. Not before the day even started.

VOTE: Mathblade

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:35 am
by MathBlade
In post 2888, Bell wrote:She claimed mason day two. Not before the day even started.

VOTE: Mathblade
LLD claimed mason d1 in an argument with Prism?

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:36 am
by Bell
I’m talking about in the game she linked.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:36 am
by MathBlade
And this means you’re voting me because why?

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:38 am
by MathBlade
Again let’s assume LLD is faking.
She clearly would have had to recruit Pooky.
Ergo even if Mastina is faking, Pooky is almost certainly town.
So if you think LLD is faking you go for LLD is my point.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:41 am
by Bell
Oh, obviously it has nothing to do with that conversation. I just carry on more than one conversation at a time.

As for why I’m voting you and why I switched back to you. Well, it’s because I’m scum obviously.

For real though. Every time you say fuck it and vote somebody it gets automatically red flagged in my brain

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:42 am
by MathBlade
In post 2893, Bell wrote:Oh, obviously it has nothing to do with that conversation. I just carry on more than one conversation at a time.

As for why I’m voting you and why I switched back to you. Well, it’s because I’m scum obviously.

For real though. Every time you say fuck it and vote somebody it gets automatically red flagged in my brain
Why does that get red flagged in your brain? Talk through it.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:44 am
by Bell
Because pattern recognition. I’m not a psychologist.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:54 am
by SirCakez
even if LLD is fakeclaiming I think she is town

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:55 am
by Prism
VOTE: DGB

Cakez is really doing his best to get me to vote him but I'm going to hold the line.

I think (GI, DGB, Cakez, Titus, Dunn, Math, BM) holds all 3 scum.

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:55 am
by SirCakez
Prism I'm hurt I put so much work into my case :(

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:57 am
by Prism
I can tackle it substantially later when I'm both not supposed to be on break+not about to head into a meeting but DGB's post, scumfuck though she may be, is dead on.

Your case doesn't tackle Day 2 by choice, but where you're presently at should absolutely include Day 2.